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Ace >> Sorry, but not good enough yet. As WL said, its traits make it inferior to most of the other Megas. It should be placed in mid-tier, imo. Also, you didn't do your OWN analysis there. It's all data, except for the verdict lol. Check the current analysis in the Analyzation thread to see how an analysis is supposed to be done. Give it another shot with another digimon .

Ken >> Seraphimon? Use it as a healer (Final Heal, Nanomech Heal, Life Current = best moveset for it) with one or two offensive move.

Also, I'm sorry I haven't been able to do the analysis on Sleipmon yet >_<'

edit - Just noticed Ken wants to do the analysis on Sleipmon. Feel free to do that and I'll just edit it in places I guess.


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quote mettaur_15
Ken >> Seraphimon? Use it as a healer (Final Heal, Nanomech Heal, Life Current = best moveset for it) with one or two offensive move.

Also, I'm sorry I haven't been able to do the analysis on Sleipmon yet >_<'

edit - Just noticed Ken wants to do the analysis on Sleipmon. Feel free to do that and I'll just edit it in places I guess.
I'll definitely do it. The only bad thing is its Bifrost that does nothing to most Digi's. But an awesome digimon regardless.




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Ken >> Seraphimon? Use it as a healer (Final Heal, Nanomech Heal, Life Current = best moveset for it) with one or two offensive move.
I hate him sooo much lol. He's too broken for this game.


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wtf, Bifrost is like its best move. =\



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Not if you make him learn Royal Slash .

But I do love Bi-Frost. Double elemental ftw >_>


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Argomon Mega:

TRAITS:

Heroic Heart adds 30 to Argomon's spirit, which can help make him a killer.

Dark Veil increases his resistance to dark techniques, so he is a good choice against dark spammers.

Gladiator increases the damage from attacks, and coupled with Heroic Heart, makes him a killer.

SleepBarrier is great. It neutralizes sleep completely. Nice, eh?

TECHNIQUES:

Metal Essence is great. It restores MP in one zone. And Argomon Mega learns it naturally at level 38.

Well the rest of his natural moves are crap, considering that they are all 3-zones, and weaker than his sig, Mystic Cannon, which hits 3-zones with 194 MP and 160 power.

Try to pick up 01 Crusher from Piedmon (the Dracmon line), as it hit 3 times with 92 power, 187 MP, AND it confuses. 01 Crusher can also be found in Diaboromon's moves.

Also try to pick up Demon Claw from Matadormon. It hits 2 zones twice with 180 MP and 128 power, and it also poisons.

There is not much else to work with so I guess you might want to pick up Metal Star from Sangloupmon.

VERDICT:

Argomon Mega is a pretty good Digimon, and has pretty good traits. Techniques are nice, and he looks really cool. Upper Class.


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Armageddamon

Strong Attribute: Dark
Weak Attribute: Holy

Traits

Heroic Power: This nifty trait adds 30 to this futher digivolved version of Diaboromon's attack power, meaning it can do some hefty damage.

Heroic Guard: Same as Power, but adds 30 defense, making it a nice wall, too

All Elements: ... Raises all elemental resistances ... Seriously, does he really need this? He's a much better wall with this equipped to him.

Status Barrier: ... He gets two of his four stats upped by 30, gets an added resistance to all elements, and now he gets an immunity to all statuses? Send this guy in on Status spammers to really ruin their day.

Attacks:
Nano Break (XOOOO Effect 62 MP 115)
Chaos Blast (XOOOX Effect 120 MP 124)
Geo Magma Napalm (XOOOO Effect 127 MP 146)
Destroy Cannon (XOOOX [fixed] Effect 145 MP 166)

Special Technique:
Ultimate Flare (XXOXX [Hits twice, lowers Speed] Effect 155 MP 224)

The attacks he gets on his own are really lack-luster compared to his traits, save for his special. Thankfully, he can get 01 Crusher from either Diaboromon or Piedmon. If your desperate for good moves, Matadormon also gives Demon Claw, which strikes twice and can poison. He can also ressurect one ally if you level Dracmon to 30 to get Dark Savior. And unless you want to go through the trouble of Gigatonne Hydro, Rainbow Spit from Tsumemon will make a decent replacement water attack, due to also striking twice, but only hitting one zone. Unfortunatly, the Argomon duo offer nothing good, Mental Essence in and of itself is no good at all as well, only healing 150 MP for 120 MP usage.

Verdict: Eh, if you Dusk players just Digiconvert him, he's really bad attack-wise, but if you DNA to him from Diaboromon and Infermon after a little work, he can become quite a threat without going into other lines.

Digiconverted Armageddamon only: Middle-Class at best, but still a possible shoe-in for Upper-class trait-wise.

DNAed Armageddamon (which is more likely): Top-Teir without much work.

*shrugs* Just felt like doing him.

Edit: >.< Forgot the Attribute factors...

This message was edited by Rizegrey232 on Nov 27 2007.
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Nice analysis Risegrey232

This message was edited by Kenshuma on Nov 30 2007.



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Ive done one on the other thread (SNGreumon BM). Now for my Zeed.

Digimon Name: ZeedMilleniumon
Type: Attacker

Species: Dark
Elemental Alignment: Darkness
Elemental Weakness: Holy

Traits:
- Heroic Power
- God's Eye
- Assassin Sense
- Status Barrier

Trait Comments:

His traits are amazing for an attacker. God's Eye and Assassin Sense lets it hit accurately and with heavy damage. Status barrier stops it from going down due to confusion or paralysis. Heroic power is the only lackluster trait he has, but nonetheless a good way to round up this Digimon. Compared to many other attacker based Digimon out there, he possess a strong trait line up for an attacker, paling in power only to Cherubimon (I want to reserve this, I wanna do this one)

Moveset:

For this moveset Ive chosen a more wide ranged set. There are many ways to line his moveset up and unlike normal, I will provide no slide as he is exceptionally strong.

1st Move: Royal Slash

Royal Slash is a neccesity on any attacker.


For the remaining moves, you have a choice of 3 from the following:

Burst Breath
Gigatonne Hydro
Flash Punch
Shining Ray
Electro Whip
Spiral Claw

As you will have noticed, there is no dark move here. His signature is what defines him. His signature is the second strongest dark attack based on "pure" effect (damage). It lowers defense and if you need to use a dark attack, let that loose instead.


Things to note for Zeed is that you must not have any support move on him. He is too strongly built for offense and you want good type coverage, as well as the ability to dish out massive damage. Other possible moves include Royal Blizzard and Royal Cannon, but he already has a 5-zone hitter.

Verdict: Zeed is a top-tier attacker and is definitely worth considering to fill the offensive role of your team.



PS: If you really need a slide,

Apocalymon (Same family tree as MoonMilleniumon, which later gets Jogressed to become Zeed) -> GigaSeadramon -> Whamon (Gigatonne Hydro)-> MarineAngemon -> SuperStarmon -> Starmon -> MagnaAngemon -> Seraphimon -> Shakkoumon -> Ankylomon -> Armadillomon -> Dorimon -> Dorumon -> Dorugamon -> Dorugremon -> Dorugoramon -> Flamedramon -> Wargreymon -> Omnimon (Royal Slash)-> MetalGarurumon -> Mammothmon -> SkullMammothmon -> AlturKabuterimon -> Kabuterimon -> AlturKabuterimonR -> HerculesKabuterimon -> Ookuwamon -> Kuwagamon -> Dokunemon -> Budmon -> Raramon -> SunFlowmon -> Lylamon -> Rosemon (Electro Whip)-> Matadormon -> SangLoupmon -> Dracmon -> Tsumemon -> Kuramon -> Tsukaimon -> Devidramon -> Kimeramon -> MoonMilleniumon -> ZeedMilleniumon
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quote Kenshuma
Nice analysis Risegrey232
I thought it was horrible >.<

Laxaria's was much better.


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quote ChronicFX
quote Kenshuma
Nice analysis Risegrey232
I thought it was horrible >.<

Laxaria's was much better.

Excuse me for not going beyond the Diaboromon/Piedmon line to get moves for Armageddamon. *obvious sarcasm*

Thank you for the comment, Kenshuma.
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re: Digimon Tier List - Analyzation discussions

Anyway, getting past all that, does everyone actually agree with where some of the digimon are on the analysis



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You guys are being childish.

Rize, the reason why your Analysis is lacking is that you provided little moveset suggestion for Armegeddenmon.

A suggestion for a tankish one is:

Light Mandala
Royal Blizzard
Life Current
~filler move~ / Purification

Another possible one for a more offensive role is

Royal Blizzard
Royal Cannon
Life Current
Light Mandala


Finally, if you want to make him a cleric

Purification
Light mandala
Light Current
Absolute Healing
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Armageddon is my worst nightmare lol. I hate that thing. Too hard to kill



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quote Laxaria
You guys are being childish.

Rize, the reason why your Analysis is lacking is that you provided little moveset suggestion for Armegeddenmon.

A suggestion for a tankish one is:

Light Mandala
Royal Blizzard
Life Current
~filler move~ / Purification

Another possible one for a more offensive role is

Royal Blizzard
Royal Cannon
Life Current
Light Mandala


Finally, if you want to make him a cleric

Purification
Light mandala
Light Current
Absolute Healing
... None of those moves appear in Armageddamon's naturaul movelist from all digimon that he can get to from one DNA. Last time I recalled, The DAT wasn't going for every possible way to modify Armaggedamon (or whatever digimon is being analyzied). I mentioned note worthy moves that came from the lines, err... line, of the digimon he's DNAed from.

*shrugs* You have your ideas, I have mine. I'll just leave it at that.

@ Kenshuma: Agreed, Armageddamon is a pain to kill off, especially when there is two or three in the battle. That's just crazy. And I agree with Zeed being in Top-Teir. I do, however, disagree on Argomon Mega. He should be in Middle-Class IMO.
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re: Digimon Tier List - Analyzation discussions

Apollomon doesn't belong in the top tier either. He can't even be DNA digivoled into giving him no kind of moves. Only stuck with his own horrible moves.

Others I disagree with will be listed later.


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