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Nov 08, 09 at 6:17pm
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quote Mycon
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quote afrojoe
Absolutely no way did we deserve to lose this, no way.
Why is Darren Fletcher targeted by referees? I really don't get it
No more added time for the substitute made in injury time?...
quote Dannnnn
Chelsea cheating again to win. Stupid. And there was no more time added for the sub or anything.
but Chelsea didnt even move out of 2nd gear and still managed the win.

Apart from Rooney, United looked awful going foward until Obertan came on. Giggsy wasnt on form today and Valencia cant cross the road, never mind the ball.
And Chelsea weren't? They were really devoid of ideas tbh in open play. Even their set-pieces were poor apart from one.
granted but they seemed to have more then one player (Rooney) who looked dangerous. Chelsea didnt play all that well either but they still managed the win and thats all that matters

This new generation of United Fans must be accepting mediocrity if they praise an average United performance resulting in a loss to a team who were far from their best.

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A fair result would have been a point. Chelsea shaded the 1st half but I though Utd shaded the 2nd. The free kick they scored from should never have been a free kick, nothing wrong with Terry's actual header/shoulder that was fine but Wes Brown was hauled down and Drogba was inches away from connecting while in an offside position, should of been ruled out in my opinion. Atkinson should really take a look at himself, he was poor today, gave some dodgy decisions both ways.
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Cannot wait for Chelsea/Arsenal match. Which ground is it at?
Emirates on November 29th


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:19pm
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quote CaddyZx
Cannot wait for Chelsea/Arsenal match. Which ground is it at?
Emirates on November 29th
hmmm, wouldn't you rather play away? Chelsea could prove to be very difficult to break down i think.
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Also, I forgot to add to my earlier post, some of you are utter an disgrace. You're acting like children. Shocking, particularly from those that have moderator tags.

No matter who you support... Stop bitching. Stop complaining. Stop gloating.




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Nov 08, 09 at 6:20pm
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quote luisgarciaisgod
quote Mycon
quote luisgarciaisgod
quote afrojoe
Absolutely no way did we deserve to lose this, no way.
Why is Darren Fletcher targeted by referees? I really don't get it
No more added time for the substitute made in injury time?...
quote Dannnnn
Chelsea cheating again to win. Stupid. And there was no more time added for the sub or anything.
but Chelsea didnt even move out of 2nd gear and still managed the win.

Apart from Rooney, United looked awful going foward until Obertan came on. Giggsy wasnt on form today and Valencia cant cross the road, never mind the ball.
And Chelsea weren't? They were really devoid of ideas tbh in open play. Even their set-pieces were poor apart from one.
granted but they seemed to have more then one player (Rooney) who looked dangerous. Chelsea didnt play all that well either but they still managed the win and thats all that matters

This new generation of United Fans must be accepting mediocrity if they praise an average United performance rsulting in a loss to a team who were far from their best.


I don't mean it in a petty way but then how can you praise your team then at all in the past number of years? Your logic is all wrong. United beat Arsenal earlier on in the season, playing nowhere near their best. Does that make Arsenal mediocre. No. Did it make it a bad performance from them? No.

Who were those players in the game that looked dangerous? Drogba didn't anyway.


quote DeNiro
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Drogba will be the difference here I think.
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Nov 08, 09 at 6:22pm
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I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:23pm
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Thought we played well today, not dissapointed in the extreme, Fletcher and Rooney were quality today I think.

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Nov 08, 09 at 6:24pm
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If we can get a decent result at the Emirates then we'll be in a really strong position come Christmas Day, hopefully we don't drop silly points now against the 'lesser' teams.

Not writing anyone off yet, it's still wayyy too early.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:26pm
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hopefully we don't drop silly points now against the 'lesser' teams
Dont worry you can count on us for 3 points.
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quote Highbury Highs
I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.

He's a physical player, refs need to accept that. Players don't always get injured because of bad tackles, it can just be too physical for them.


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I like how everyone is having a go at us United fans just because we support United. I could guarantee if that was just about any team other than United, all the neutrals would be having a good old rage aswell.
No, they're having a go cos you're whining about refereeing mistakes when you get plenty gong your way every season. And when people act stupid and hypocritical on this forum they get told to shut up as a rule, no matter who they support.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:27pm
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quote TurnA
Not writing anyone off yet, it's still wayyy too early.

Still too early to think that we're in for a shout for the title.

quote SecretLegend
quote Highbury Highs
I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.

He's a physical player, refs need to accept that. Players don't always get injured because of bad tackles, it can just be too physical for them.

So "Physical player" is code for dirty hacker?



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Nov 08, 09 at 6:29pm
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quote Highbury Highs
I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.

He's a physical player, refs need to accept that. Players don't always get injured because of bad tackles, it can just be too physical for them.

So "Physical player" is code for dirty hacker?

Ever heard of a tough tackle?


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New rules added to the referee's handbook; kicking and elbowing is now an acceptable means of winning possession from a United player, United players headbutting opposition players in the elbow is unacceptable, the advantage rule no longer applies to United, if a defender can't stop a United cross with his head then it's perfectly reasonable for him to use his arms, if a forward can't stop a United defender by legal means it's perfectly reasonable to pull him down.

If it wasn't for those last minute additions I'd say the ref's performance was f*cking atrocious, but of course it wouldn't be looked into anyway. Its United after all. Fair game for opposition players to hack seven sh*ts into. At least Evans wasn't sent off for that gloriously horrid challenge on Drogba, I guess that's some trace of parity. God I love that Irish lad.

Moving on I felt we had the better of the play. Anderson did a superb job pushing up-field and restricting Essien's contribution, likewise Valencia on Ashley Cole, our defence as a whole performs much better with adequate screening from the midfield. Between Brown and Evans Drogba was pretty much silenced and Anelka was forced into midfield. Evra was more or less 'meh' with a few okay moments, Giggs had a shocker and couldn't give the ball away enough, Obertan offered us a much more direct threat from the left flank.

Like I said, I felt we were the better side but Chelsea took their chance so fair play to them. Still, our performance today helped alleviate some of the fears I had for our midfield going up against the better sides in Europe. Lets hope we see more of the same in our other big games.


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