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quote Mycon
I don't mean it in a petty way but then how can you praise your team then at all in the past number of years?
not making this a Liverpool thing but how about our last 3 three games against United, where we have outplayed, out-thought-, out-fought or use any superlative you want to describe how we totally and utterly domianted you.

quote Mycon
United beat Arsenal earlier on in the season, playing nowhere near their best. Does that make Arsenal mediocre. No. Did it make it a bad performance. No.
that was different, Arsenal actually played well in that game and were somewhat unlucky and possessed attacking threat. You didnt.

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Who were those players in the game that looked dangerous? Drogba didn't anyway.
Anelka,Lampard,Joe cole (when he came on) Ivanovic and Cole.
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quote SecretLegend
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I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.

He's a physical player, refs need to accept that. Players don't always get injured because of bad tackles, it can just be too physical for them.
Physical yes. But he can make some scruffy tackles. One reason why i think the free kick was given. He got the ball, but went in what seemed to hard and took Cole with it. Debatable/questionnable without doubt. But if the shoe were on the other foot and it were Essien doing the same as Fletcher i've no doubt all those moaning that it wasn't a free kick would have said it woulda been a free kick.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:31pm
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Hmph

I really wasn't expecting anything from the game before hand but I really am gutted now. We played so much better than I expected, at the best of times annuled their midfield diamond, especially Deco who may aswell not turned up. Brown & Evans were fantastic, totally different players to against Moscow. Valencia always gives his all, just needs to work on the end product but did well tracking back and helping out the defence, unlike Ronaldo. Anderson did ok IMO and Fletcher was his usual self, plus being unlucky. Carrick was shit, as he has been all this season. Rooney tried and was unlucky not to score. Obertan needs to start more, always impresses when coming on and put a spark into the game.

Decisions? People will complain when they go to United but are quick enough to gloat when they go against us. Just cos we support United we are allowed to complain, just like others would and do if decisions go against them. Even early ones, Rooney was clearly onside and 1 on 1 early in the game and could easily have scored. Terry dragging down Valencia in the box was debateable, they've been given. It wasn't a free kick for the goal, ok Fletch didn't get the ball cleanly but he got the ball, then to compound Drogba pulls Brown down right where the ball flew through.

We didn't play brilliantly but I thought we matched Chelsea and even bettered them, oh well, onwards and upwards


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:34pm
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quote luisgarciaisgod
not making this a Liverpool thing but how about our last 3 three games against United, where we have outplayed, out-thought-, out-fought or use any superlative you want to describe how we totally and utterly domianted you.
And?

quote Mycon
United beat Arsenal earlier on in the season, playing nowhere near their best. Does that make Arsenal mediocre. No. Did it make it a bad performance. No.
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that was different, Arsenal actually played well in that game and were somewhat unlucky and possessed attacking threat. You didnt.
They weren't playing Chelsea in Stamford Bridge. We possessed near as much threat as Barcelona did tbh. But anyway a good, not great performance against Chelsea away resulting in not winning does not represent mediocrity like you are suggesting.

quote luisgarciaisgod
Anelka,Lampard,Joe cole (when he came on) Ivanovic and Cole.
I wouldn't call Ivanovic a threat, John O'Shea was as much of a threat. Ashley Cole? He was defending all game. You're clutching at straws when you have to use defenders. Evra had more play than Cole in this match.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:35pm
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Typical dirty United in the last twenty minutes, glad we picked the win up today after how many fouls they did and got away with but also it is nice to see a decision going against United for once, yet they always complain when it is a decision against them but when it is in their favour it is totally different, typical Manchester United fans though, hey?

Got to say though the referee did terrible for lots of decisions for and against us but overall really pleased about the result and being five points clear.

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Nov 08, 09 at 6:38pm
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I can't wait for that game. Shame about my mates who are already banging on about them wanting me to get them tickets.

Free kick for Chelsea at the end there? Maybe. Fletcher did go over the ball. Cashley may have acted like a pussy, but DF didn't get the ball totally. Those saying that he did get the ball are either United fans, or just being generous. He should learn to tackle without trying to injure his opponents.

He's a physical player, refs need to accept that. Players don't always get injured because of bad tackles, it can just be too physical for them.

So "Physical player" is code for dirty hacker?

Ever heard of a tough tackle?

Yes. But Fletcher fouls, rather than tackles. They're two different things, you know?


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:43pm
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not making this a Liverpool thing but how about our last 3 three games against United, where we have outplayed, out-thought-, out-fought or use any superlative you want to describe how we totally and utterly domianted you.
you asked for examples where i could praise my team from the last couple of years, Ive given you some.



quote Mycon
hey weren't playing Chelsea in Stamford Bridge. We possessed near as much threat as Barcelona did tbh. But anyway a good, not great performance against Chelsea away resulting in not winning does not represent mediocrity like you are suggesting.
but i doubt that Barcelona fans were banging on about how well they played after the game at Stamford Bridge. For team that is supposed to be the biggest in the world and is going for an unprecedented 4th title in a row, i find it quite surprising that the support universally seem to be praising a performance that was devoid of attacking threat.

My idea of a good United performance would be Turin in 99 or to a lesser extent WHL a few weeks ago. Not today
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Typical dirty United in the last twenty minutes, glad we picked the win up today after how many fouls they did and got away with but also it is nice to see a decision going against United for once, yet they always complain when it is a decision against them but when it is in their favour it is totally different, typical Manchester United fans though, hey?

Got to say though the referee did terrible for lots of decisions for and against us but overall really pleased about the result and being five points clear.

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cant you chelsea *bleep*s take a bit of rough tackling, poor old cockneys
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Nov 08, 09 at 6:45pm
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There is rough tackles and fouls, it seems Man Utd fans don't know the difference until it is against them then it is the excuse for the loss.

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Nov 08, 09 at 6:46pm
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against us? *bleep* off everyone knows that wasnt a foul on ashley cole, a *bleep*in good tackle by fletch



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Nov 08, 09 at 6:48pm
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Not writing anyone off yet, it's still wayyy too early.

Still too early to think that we're in for a shout for the title.
Eh ? I didn't say that ? I said I'm NOT writing anyone off yet, especially Arsenal who lie 5 points behind us


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Manchester United fans think it was is more suitable .

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And I am chuffed that Drogba made a tit of himself.[/sub]
The twitching was hilarious.

quote Man Utd Fan 123
Hmph

I really wasn't expecting anything from the game before hand but I really am gutted now. We played so much better than I expected, at the best of times annuled their midfield diamond, especially Deco who may aswell not turned up. Brown & Evans were fantastic, totally different players to against Moscow. Valencia always gives his all, just needs to work on the end product but did well tracking back and helping out the defence, unlike Ronaldo. Anderson did ok IMO and Fletcher was his usual self, plus being unlucky. Carrick was shit, as he has been all this season. Rooney tried and was unlucky not to score. Obertan needs to start more, always impresses when coming on and put a spark into the game.

Decisions? People will complain when they go to United but are quick enough to gloat when they go against us. Just cos we support United we are allowed to complain, just like others would and do if decisions go against them. Even early ones, Rooney was clearly onside and 1 on 1 early in the game and could easily have scored. Terry dragging down Valencia in the box was debateable, they've been given. It wasn't a free kick for the goal, ok Fletch didn't get the ball cleanly but he got the ball, then to compound Drogba pulls Brown down right where the ball flew through.

We didn't play brilliantly but I thought we matched Chelsea and even bettered them, oh well, onwards and upwards
To be honest I'm not that gutted about it. If we played poorly then I'd be raging but we matched them on their own turf, it's only november and we're a mere five points behind. I felt Chelsea lost some of that air of invincibility.

quote Dec
Typical dirty United in the last twenty minutes, glad we picked the win up today after how many fouls they did and got away with but also it is nice to see a decision going against United for once, yet they always complain when it is a decision against them but when it is in their favour it is totally different, typical Manchester United fans though, hey?

Got to say though the referee did terrible for lots of decisions for and against us but overall really pleased about the result and being five points clear.
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Typical ABUism. Always quick to jump on any decision that goes United's way but blind as a bat when the shoe's on the other foot, and believe me, the shoe is very often on the other foot.

I think it's hilarious that opposition fans are so quick to jump down any United fan's throat for having the 'audacity' to feel a sence of injustice when a poor refereeing decision goes against us. It's blatant hypocracy.


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Nov 08, 09 at 6:51pm
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I'm always more gutted when we lose and don't deserve to, if we lose cos we play shit, like against Liverpool, then it's fair enough



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