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quote RedemptionWell, I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet (or if it will make too much of a difference), but what if people had to obtain a certain amount of GG points before using the thumbs system? ------------------- ![]() | |
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Final Blade
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quote Smoke N a PancakeSorry that wasn't directed at you personally just a generalization to your post or question. quote Smoke N a PancakeWhich if you clearly read here, you're saying its not terrible to thumb someone posts down and not reply back, hence your statement in the bold. There is no denying that people has thumbed down posts without responding and I can assure you many will back this up. Hell my comments have been thumbed down plenty of times without anyone actually replying, which just shows how scared they are. So I apologize for that mistake. quote RedemptionThe bolded or that system is actually something I think would be a better system then the thumbs entirely. However I rather have a report comment feature, similar to Neoseeker report posts, on Gamegrep so idiot comments like this and I quote: quote HawkMan quote HawkMan quote HawkMan quote HawkManArticle link Gets deleted. Now I don't know about anyone else here but this member completely just went over the line insulting not only me in the second quote, but both Gothic Girl and RabidChinaGirl. I consider GG a friend on both sites, despite our disagreements on things, I get even more pissed when people say shit without knowing the person or seeing their pics. And assuming they're fat and assuming im a Gay for defending Gothic Girl. People like them, just don't belong on Neoseeker or gamegrep itself. ------------------- Welcome to Crisis Core forum Welcome to Bad Company 2 God of War 3 official forum community | |
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Moonrise
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Okay so where exactly has it been proven that the thumbs down system is a bad thing? I also ask why your quoted messages are relevant in any way to this discussion. A report system would be fine, but there's no reason to get rid of the thumbs down feature as a result.
If you're going to have "descriptions", such as "funny", "informative", and "interesting" then there had damn well better be categories like "annoying", "ridiculous", and "completely wrong". The world isn't so convenient as to allow people to simply run around giving each other compliments left and right, which is why there should really be a thumbs down system in the first place. When people stay stupid shit, they should be "thumbed down" or at least it should be known that everyone else frowns upon their comment. Really, the existence of the thumbs down system did absolutely nothing to propagate controversy and its removal is completely unnecessary from that front. Hell, if you go around now it's probably more likely that you'll see people in long-winded arguments over nothing because instead of a group of people simply "thumbing down" a comment and letting it be, they all have to physically tell the person how much of an idiot they are which does nothing more than prompt even more ridiculous responses. It's funny that you of all people would say that the people that thumb down without commenting are "afraid" of anything. Really, that's the best way to do things because it prevents you from making even more ridiculous comments in response to anything they had to say to you. It's not being "afraid" of anything, it's simply being smart by not adding fuel to the fire. Thumbing down a ridiculous comment without responding is really the best possible thing to do. A person can make a comment whining about how they've been thumbed down, but if people don't bother to reply to him/her then it's just going to end there without any real backlash from the person involved and anyone else. ------------------- | |
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ShadowJRaping female game characters since 2003
(moderator) Fallout 3 [PS3] The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind G.O.T.Y. [Xbox] The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind [Xbox] ![]() total posts: 19620 neopoints: 275 GameGrep pts: 793 since: Jan 2003 |
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That's not the problem Moonrise, thumbing down pointless comments was working. It was the fact that idiots were thumbing down perfectly good comments for reasons such as "too long to read" and "He's a "insert console here" fanboy" or the simple truth of most of them "I'm jealous of this person"
There are many more reasons and I am simply stating the ones that seem to be happening when the thumbs down feature was in. One of my comments that was over 3 paragraphs, added to the discussion and explained/clarified the article got -2 thumbs within a matter of 3 hours. I wouldn't mind if relevent reasons came to mind like use of txt talk/leet speak and so forth but the comment was exactly how I am posting this message right now. However you do come across a good point that positive can't work without negative. Positive only will be abused, Negative only will be abused and will the pair together. We just need to find a system that balances it all or close enough to a balance that can be worked with. Other than messing with the thumbs system and introducing new ones, the only other thing I can think of doing is having comment moderators or bundle more work onto the CRS team since obviously the members that have access to CRS submissions can be trusted to decide whether a comment is worthy of so many minus thumbs or so many plus thumbs. Though the tagging system idea sounds great, as long as negative tags can be given, maybe not so harsh ones but ones that define whether a comment is worth the time to look at etc. ------------------- ![]() ![]() | |
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Miss Razz
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quote MoonriseThis is just a suggestion, but maybe Gamegrep could have a "rating" system similar to Joystiq's ... ![]() Whenever a comment gets "thumbed up" it goes up half a heart, and when it gets "thumbed down" it goes down half a heart. So there's no negative numbers like Gamegrep's thumbs-down system, but the best comments will have three hearts which tells people they are worth reading, while the worst ones will have no hearts and show people that it's not really worth reading. It's a system that isn't quite as "in your face" as being thumbed-down into the negatives. ------------------- | |
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Akira_EXSamurai Sentai Shinkenger
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quote Gothic GirlActually, it's not as simple as one thumb up/down = one half a heart. I think it gradually grows depending on the count, so it isnt as simple as three up = full. Also, regarding Hawkman, how come no one alerted any of us moderators? I eventually dealt with him earlier today, but only after I came across it while browsing. -------------------
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Miss Razz
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quote Akira_EXWell it should be that simple >_> ------------------- | |
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Bale Fire
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quote Gothic GirlOh I like that even more. I think that would work quite well. Would people start on 1 and 1/2 hearts or something else? ------------------- | |
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Akira_EXSamurai Sentai Shinkenger
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On Joystiq you start at 2, IIRC.
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Miss Razz
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I reckon it should start on zero hearts. Everyone's comments are crap until they get rated otherwise. XD
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DeathsytheAll My Base Are Belong to Avalith.
(moderator) Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff advancewars digimon fable guitarhero neowiki ![]() total posts: 6996 neopoints: 1182 GameGrep pts: 7872 since: Jul 2002 |
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I still stand by the school of thought that says there was no reason to remove it in the first place, let alone implement a whole new ratings system.
The only real new thing that needs to be implemented is a report system. Just to quote from a PM correspondence with a certain someone: quote DeathsytheGranted I was speaking more generally about the articles in general, but the same principle applies to the 'thumbing' of posts. (replace the word "article(s)" with "comment(s)" in my quote and you can get a better feel for what I am talking about. ------------------- Thanks Diamondflame for the Christmas Avatar.
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Final Blade
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quote MoonriseMe of all people? And whats that? Im sorry Moonrise, I've been gamegreping and contributing to the site since its been around, in fact the all time leaders board should show this. I like gamegrep and im not going to stop commenting or helping the site grow. The fact I had a complaint about the thumbs down or the system in general for awhile and talked about it with a few gamegrep mods, proves im not doing it cause of myself. In fact I saw alot of fanboys thumbing down Krunal and Guticb for absolutely no reason calling them fanboys, when their posts was good. Think what you like, you know shit about me. LordMaChao is one of the people, while I dislike him, who actually falls under the category who replies to post, no matter how idiotic or stupid they are and put them in there place without breaking rules. Which on that level I can actually respect him for it. And while I had great debates against him with valid points, I often find my comments thumbed down and his up to 10 thumbs up. Why I have no clue. That one big argument with him Storm and Tiger of Wu showed it but yet he gets praised with thumbs. Im not saying to not to thumbs down, but at least reply with why you disagree and thumbed them down, so we could see why it was thumbed and why you disagree. I remember getting thumbed down for stating how Nintendo is milking mario a shit load, without commenting, then others responded to my post saying how true my comment was which didn't deserve the negative thumbs. ShadowJ made an excellent point as well. His posts shouldn't of been thumbed down either cause tbh I actually like his comments when he does on gamegrep. Its just not the thumbs down, though more noticed, thats getting abused. Its the ENTIRE system atm that is. Now we have people trying to send a message and abuse the thumbs up to say we need thumbs down. I've seen lots of comments getting thumbs up which imo shouldn't be that high. And im not the only one who noticed it as well, I believe a few who posted here in this topic took notice of it. Hell I think the removal of the current thumbs system is a must for the site. It was great when the site was new and just starting, but now after a year + into its life, the original purpose like red said is not being used. As for your question of the quotes, it had nothing to do with the thumbs, but a suggestion of having a report feature so shit comments like that stays away from gamegrep. Akira I didn't get a chance within the time I saw the topic to PM a mod about it. Thats why I suggested the report feature like on Neoseeker, right now, so it helps further make the site as Deathsythe called it governing it ourselves. quote DeathsytheThis basically holds true with the report comment feature. If we had this members like him and his comments would be noticed more by the mods. I can't comment why no one else reported those posts. But since we're making suggestions about gamegrep and thumbs I figured to suggest a report feature as well. ------------------- Welcome to Crisis Core forum Welcome to Bad Company 2 God of War 3 official forum community | |
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Akira_EXSamurai Sentai Shinkenger
(moderator) GameGrep Bugs GameGrep Feedback & Suggestions GameGrep Help and Best Practices General Wii ![]() total posts: 13314 neopoints: 5700 GameGrep pts: 21055 since: Sep 2001 |
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If we are supposed to "govern ourselves", then the thumbs system shouldn't be taken away. It should be refined.
That said, there has to be someway to positively/negatively impact a comment that is easily user-accessible. There has to be a way to voice disapproval without having it tied to a name or persona; the anonymity of the internet, if you will. Regardless, there are multiple opinions; people do have the right to agree or disagree. If you get thumbs up, odds are there is someone out there who agreed with you. If you get thumbs down, odds are there is someone out there who disagreed with you. It'll never be a perfect system, but wanting to live in a la-la land where everything falls the way you want it is an impossibility. Also, quit with the holier than thou stuff. It's annoying. -------------------
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kik36
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quote Akira_EXI can't find any "report" button, and generally don't have time to hunt down a mod. ------------------- Demon's Souls Review The Clone World WebComic Follow me on Twitter | |
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DeathsytheAll My Base Are Belong to Avalith.
(moderator) Wiki Staff Applications wiki staff advancewars digimon fable guitarhero neowiki ![]() total posts: 6996 neopoints: 1182 GameGrep pts: 7872 since: Jul 2002 |
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As of right now we do not have a 'report button', it is one of the features that is being discussed (and hopefully by now somewhere in the pipe).
We should probably publish a full list of the GG mods somewhere easily accessible on the main page too though. This whole thread is chock full of loads of suggestions- someone should rip it apart and actually make them individually. (perhaps I'll do it later) ------------------- Thanks Diamondflame for the Christmas Avatar.
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