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 Topic: Character Discussion - Cosmos Warriors
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 Jon24hours
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 Sep 20, 09 at 3:11am |
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I didn't make this yet. Oops. XD
Anyway, the discussion of the Cosmos Warriors starts now! *get ready for a rant* I dislike the fact that Luneth was opted out for Onion Knight in this game. I REALLY dislike it, to be honest. With Warrior of Light, it's understandable, and even kind of awesome that he doesn't have an identity. But with the advent of Final Fantasy III DS, there is no reason it couldn't have been flipped around, with Luneth being the FFIII representative and Onion Knight being the alternative. I guess, in far sight they wanted the characters to be true to their original games, and FFIII DS was quite an overhaul compared with the original, but IMO Onion Knight just kind of took away from Warrior of Light's mysteriousness of not having a name by doing the same thing. I also dislike what they did to Bartz in this game. In the original game, he was brave, and the only thing that actually stopped him was his fear of heights, which he quickly gets over. But in this game, he's a complete coward. Running from Palamecia and Ultimecia, the Jesse and James of Dissidia. His gameplay was, while it was interesting that he put his own spin on the other Warrior's attacks, was very unoriginal. FFV gave him an ample amount of jobs to get his abilities from, and certainly would have made one hell of an EX Mode/Burst. But instead, he was a Mime. The Mimic job was optional in FFV. It made zero impact in the story, and actually did more for FFVI, by introducing Gogo, who seems to be the same person in both games. They also made Zidane a dork.  Now Firion. That's one heck of a character considering he's from the SECOND game. Owning the weapons of his friends and fallen comrades and handling them like a pro is just awesome. Johnny Young Bosch's voice fit him perfectly. This message was edited by Jon24hours on Sep 20 2009. -------------------  - Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days - Final Fantasy Dissidia - MegaMan Star Force 3: Black Ace/Red Joker - | |
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Sephiroth 「Transient Lion」
Still Seekin'    total posts: 3528 since: Aug 2004 |
 Sep 20, 09 at 3:14am |
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Squall is number one in my books, no if's and's or but's.
His attitude, style screams badass. I can admit im a fanboy. The only thing I liked about Zidane is his dying quote.. Cloud was nice as usual, im glad they kept the same voice. Tidus' is fun to play as, i liked his aerials. "Your gone" is pretty repitive though.. -------------------  << Lv.2 Song of the Week "Love Sick Part 2" - Nujabes | |
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Darkking American by birth. Asshole by choice.
Hooked on Neo    since: Oct 2003 |
Sep 20, 09 at 3:21am |
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I hated Bartz. He felt VERY weak to me. Zidane needed to hit on woman more. >.>
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Lukaeu 「Toutes foys preste」
Neolithic  since: Feb 2008 |
Sep 20, 09 at 4:08am |
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The only thing I disliked about bartz was the second delay before and after attacks which made him easy to suffer a break from a Bravery Attack or be hit with an HP Attack. However, I didn't see this problem when the CPU was playing him, oddly enough. ------------------- | |
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mettaur [HP]: +∞, [MP]: -∞
Permanently Plugged In   total posts: 13835 since: Jul 2003 |
Sep 20, 09 at 9:05am |
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Anyone here mains Terra?
If so, how do you set her up? Long or close range? Now before you all go "she's a magician, of course close range!" on me, consider these: Long Range: Holy->Flare->Ultima is just too good. It's all you really need for a long range Terra. Short Range: Blizzard (both air and ground) are just ridiculous. Virtually unblockable except by magic blocks, and there's almost no startup time - instant brave attacks, low possibility for infinite set up if you time the blizzards right. Playing close range can also take advantage of Tornado. After playing long range game with her for so long, I'm ashamed to say that I got owned by an "antiquities" Terra in Blackjack who played close range game, which made me ask this question. Thoughts? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ As far as Bartz goes, I have to agree. Very hard to get used to his style, except by spamming Holy->Flare. His Axe Reel doesn't chain to Double Trouble ala Firion either. I still haven't found a doable combo for Bartz yet. All in all though, he's pretty much the best Thief in the game, being able to equip Thief Gloves AND Super Ribbon. ------------------- | |
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Morrigan is mine high on "N"
total posts: 702 since: Dec 2008 |
Sep 20, 09 at 9:21am |
quote mettaur*raises hand* My setup for her is Long range: Holy > flare > ultima (for midair) and Blizzara if they're getting close to me. For the ground: it's Meteor, Graviga and again, Blizzara if they're getting close. Short Range: Blizzard Combo (midair) and Holy For the ground: it's Blizzard Combo, Fire and Blizzara. -------------------  Credit to shiroineko-sama@deviantart for the artwork | |
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markx2475 "Protect Your SOLDIER Honor"
true seeker    total posts: 1174 since: Aug 2007 |
 Sep 20, 09 at 3:08pm |
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I don't like WoL, i just tolerate the guy because he IS FF1
 Oion Knight... i mean... h is just... meh just a kid who thinks he know it all even tough Bartz is kind of cowardly, i like him for his comedical releif, and he is ok for battle. Terra is kinda of cool, Squal and Cloud are awsome, Zidane..... Tidus is ok, just don't like the Guy's voice Shanttoto, i now like her Magic attacks do to learning the more bravery you have the better. btu still don't like her, snob midget. Firion... i 100% agree with everyting Jon24hours said. love the guuys voice, as a humble dream, diferent weapons. awsome. and Cecil, i as i first saw him did not like him very much, but i kinda like him a lot now, he is knightly but not exagerated as WoL, and has that Darkness And Light thing wich are very cool. i think that the Chaos Set is better, but the heroes don't let us down BTW: as anyone noticed Zidane's finishing pose? when he does that i can only see him flirting with guys -_- -------------------  Free us from the Ps3 game instalation http://www.petitiononline.com/ra7435is/petition.html | |
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Wolverine527 NO! NOT THAT PLAYED OUT THUMBS-UP SIGN!!
Hooked on Neo  total posts: 4568 since: Oct 2008 |
Sep 20, 09 at 6:00pm |
quote mettaur *raises hand* But I main 4 others as well  . In alot of fighting games,I have anywhere between 2 and 5 mains.I have Terra set up for long range myself,but to beat chaos in IC,I had to stay close so I could hit him with tornado. I agree with Jon about Luneth's exclusion from the game,I think they should've made Luneth the Onion knight,at least in the US version,since the DS version of 3 was the only version to hit the US. Terra seemed alot more timid in Dissidia than in VI if you ask me,but I still liked her. Cloud was good,but I hated how he paused in the middle of MOST of his sentences  .Squall seemed a little different than he was in VIII,but his personality was pretty much the same (that is,his personality before he met Rinoa,he really changed when he met her). Shantotto was interesting,but she was a little too cocky if you ask me. But I love hitting my opponent with Bio,then letting them hit me with an HP attack,then pretty much automatically breaking them .I like Gabranth alot,but I think when he's in EX mode (with his helmet on),his voice should've echoed like it did in XII. And that's not even all I have to say .------------------- quote Adam SavageCheck out the Crisis core forum! Join the endless cycle! (Dissidia FF forum) | |
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Lukaeu 「Toutes foys preste」
Neolithic since: Feb 2008 |
Sep 20, 09 at 6:05pm |
quote mettaur Yeah, I think they had a "Jack of all trades, Master of none" concept in mind when they were doing him. ------------------- | |
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Wolverine527 NO! NOT THAT PLAYED OUT THUMBS-UP SIGN!!
Hooked on Neo total posts: 4568 since: Oct 2008 |
Sep 20, 09 at 6:08pm |
quote Lukaeu Yeah,but he was still an enjoyable character to use. BTW,Maybe he can use souleater right after reel axe? ------------------- quote Adam SavageCheck out the Crisis core forum! Join the endless cycle! (Dissidia FF forum) | |
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mettaur [HP]: +∞, [MP]: -∞
Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13835 since: Jul 2003 |
Sep 20, 09 at 6:56pm |
quote Wolverine527That's an idea, I'm gonna go test it edit - It works, but you have to do something in the middle: Reel Impulse > dodge back > Souleater. Works like a charm .This message was edited by mettaur on Sep 20 2009. ------------------- | |
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Urban >>Catch The Rainbow
ultra seeker  since: Sep 2008 |
Sep 21, 09 at 3:33am |
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I Hate using Bartz, he seems like something of a failed experiment. Though my favorites are WoL, Onion Knight, Shantotto and Terra. -------------------  | |
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Wolverine527 NO! NOT THAT PLAYED OUT THUMBS-UP SIGN!!
Hooked on Neo total posts: 4568 since: Oct 2008 |
Sep 21, 09 at 2:46pm |
quote mettaur I tried it too,but I didn't think to do a dodge to cancel the reel impulse animation  .quote Urban I personally like using Bartz,I like some of his combination brave attacks (especially Climbarrel and Slidehazzard),but I wish he had more HP attacks. Maybe they'll change his job to freelancer for dissidia 2,and give him abilities from FFV for his attacks. I could see him using Spellblade:Flare as an HP attack .------------------- quote Adam SavageCheck out the Crisis core forum! Join the endless cycle! (Dissidia FF forum) | |
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soul calibur king Life is a nevermore yet a never ending
member: postin' posse  total posts: 569 since: Apr 2007 |
Sep 21, 09 at 7:04pm |
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Cloud is good w/ Omnislah Version 5 and Meteorain. I would also say that Bartz is weak because he isn't really that great to use unless u want to get the Shade Impulse V and Destiny Oddysey V done. Sephiroth is still badass as ever w/ Supernova EX limit move.
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markx2475 "Protect Your SOLDIER Honor"
true seeker total posts: 1174 since: Aug 2007 |
Sep 21, 09 at 7:55pm |
quote soul calibur kingmaybe your gonna "beat" me, but i realy don't like his Limit... that dosen't seem like the Super Nova that Crushed so many Planets, AND if you do it with Sephiroth's alternate costume he seems to be Cold.... wich is weird since he as a Sun behind him... sorry but thats how i feel. i prefer way much Black Materia, now that's pretty xD ------------------- Free us from the Ps3 game instalation http://www.petitiononline.com/ra7435is/petition.html | |
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