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Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

Enormous spoilers in here. In fact, if you haven't beaten gotten all the Chaos/Cosmos Reports, you probably won't know too much. If you wish to skip over getting them all, here are all of the Chaos and Cosmos Reports:





These two cover a great deal about FFI and FFD. The Cosmos Reports cover the story of how Garland was taken by the army, and Cid's wife, not named, went in to rescue him, and was killed.

The Chaos Reports cover Cid, making the cycle and finally realizing it should end.

It also explains the Warrior of Light's origins, how Garland became Chaos, Sephiroth taking his own life during the last war, and more.

This make's FFI's story, which originally was incredibly vague, into a huge one that adds Dissidia connecting the FF worlds by the Void and making at least 10 of the FFs canon to each other through the war.

The secret ending gotten though collecting all 20 reports shows that Chaos and Cosmos have been revived, and that Cid plans to end the cycle next war. Though since Nomura has stated that making a sequel would be "difficult", we may not even see this.

Here's a summarized version of the Reports:



Little facts:
  • The "Great Will" mentioned by several characters is Cid.
  • Cid is also the narrator of the game. He narrates the game's opening, the prologue/epilogue of the story modes, and ect.
  • The wyrm/dragon the characters keep talking about is Shinryu.


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

I hate the VOID concept. The "void" seems stupid and always been used as well to destroy everything. Now it seems how everything is connected to each other. So...Anytime the villains wanted to the void swallow everything, but whats really was going on was they were sending everything into an empty space. ._.


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

The thing that connects all the FF worlds to each other is actually the Interdimensional Rift, consisting of dozens of worlds and areas just kind of mushed together, which in a way, explains why Dissidia's world looks the way it does. Gilgamesh is always wandering it. I don't know how or why he ever goes back. He's always looking for Bartz, since they're friends.

It's just easier to call the Interdimensional Rift the Void because even typing Interdimensional Rift is a mouth full. >_>

The Void, on the other hand, is an engima. Claimed to be nothing but there are crystal floors in there. Not to mention an Omega model, Shinryu, and Cloud of Darkness. So, I don't know why Cloud of Darkness and Exdeath want to send everything there. Seems like everything will be perfectly fine if they were.


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

I much prefer if they connected by a different time line. I also wonder what is their time line of when they are taken out of their worlds to these worlds?


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

I'm guessing time just stops in their worlds, and they're taken there. Cid seems powerful enough to do that.

Either that, or before their games even start, they are brought their, with "memories" of the events of their worlds, and when they are done, they go through their games, and the cycle goes over and over.


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    It makes the Cycle of Rebirth seem more like a repeated punishment for one's sins by making them experience their life over and over without it ever changing, then a purification of what happend in one's past life. If you look at it that way the Void would seem like a haven, a place with nothing exists but existence is ever present. A place of freedom, seemingly complete and absolute, where one is not bounded by the chains of fate.




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So who or what is Shinryu?? and who's Cid??

I know, I know stupid questions I've only played FF7 (and spin offs) so I really dont know


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Cid (In The First FF) Is Garlands foster father and the one who made a deal with shinryu at start the War cycle.

And Shinryu Is a great wyrm who has lots of power who lives in the interdimensional Rift



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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

Damn... i want to get all the Reports before psoting here.

but clear me up on this, does not Sinryu call "us" the Great Will when we beat IC?

he says something like "you have power beyond the gods... you are the Great Will" or "You .... The Great Will"

at the moment i was like....?????....?????
but yeah.... after i get all of the reports ill post here, i don't want to spoil them, io did not know cid of Lufain was that much powerfull


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

I don't think Inward Chaos is canon. Because in the end, you fight Chaos, but by that point in the game, Cid should be readying the next war, so technically no one would be in the world of Dissidia.

Unless I miss something?


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re: Character Discussion - Cid of the Lufaine, Shinryu, Chaos, and Cosmos

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I don't think Inward Chaos is canon. Because in the end, you fight Chaos, but by that point in the game, Cid should be readying the next war, so technically no one would be in the world of Dissidia.

Unless I miss something?
well i realy don't know... Dissidia's story stll seems to confuing for me... i will have all the Chaos repots by today and i will see the ending. but i have a feeling that i will have to see all the oddyseys and.... well... everytinh abotu Dissidia's story to see if i can learn a thing from them....
i already read the cosmos Reports but i am still in blank....

after i read it all i will relook this thread to see if i have a major understanding


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