Hehe, Shave Ya Head, from what I remember Chronic won't take too kindly to what you said, and neither do I really. I don't want to start a flame war. But what you said is pretty fanboyish to me.

At the end of the day Microsoft are a business, they aren't malicious. They're doing what's best for their company. By getting the exclusive DLC it helps to get more people buying Fallout for their system. Also, at the moment there is no need to be bitching about DLC (goes to everyone). By the time it comes out, there will be other great games out, and perhaps a complete edition will come out, like they did with Oblivion.

Im not trying to start a flame war, im just stating facts, i mean when 360 fans say they are better than ps3 because they sold more, its like saying ps1 is better than ps3 on the day ps3 came out, obviousley on the day ps3 came out, ps1 had sold more copies, that doesnt make the ps1 better, if these companies actually care about people liking gaming, then they would combine ideas and make the ultimate console, but until then, theres always going to be a console war, and therefore, more flaming, but i think even you know i point dont you

I have learned to not really care about who gets DLC first. Frankly I'm not surprised that Microsoft is getting exclusivity after hearing about the GTA IV DLC. Like someone else said earlier, I have nothing against the 360 itself I just dislike Microsoft. I mean look what they are doing with their piece of crap they call Vista. Thats why I rock and roll on Ubuntu

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quote redneonfish

I don't think it'll stay exclusive for ever. It'll be timed me thinks. It doesn't matter too much anyway. DLC will be quite a way off.

The former part of your post won't happen; exclusive means exclusive, and if it was merely timed, Bethesda would have said that to hopefully not scare away anyone potential PS3 customers who won't get the game because of that (yes, they do exist). The latter part however, I do sadly agree with you on; I fear it'll suffer from the same thing GTA IV did (does anyone still give a shit about that anymore?).

quote blaziken92

Microsoft pay off developers to make sure they don't give the PS3 the DLC, simple as that. It's the only thing that's keeping the 360 alive in my opinion, even people I know who own 360's agree with me.

That's just straight ignorance; it takes more than a little exclusive downloadable content (even more than just Fallout 3) to have the 360 outselling the PS3 2 to 1 in the USA right now.

Pretty much wrong on the first part I'm afraid. Going from the press releases of both Sony and Microsoft, it is clear to what Microsoft's intentions are and they are simply "Get in there first"

Reason I state that is because they get in, grab the exclusive deal and then a year later, the same game is ported to PS3 or PC or both, usually PC first if it hasn't already had a multi-exclusive release (Bioshock is the prime example of what I am talking about)

Bethesda and their DLC is a different matter however. Bethesda are in the spotlight for a number of reasons, mainly most concerning the shunting of PS3 and the buddy buddy bit with Microsoft. For clarification, Beth Soft have equally worked with both Sony and Microsoft for a number of years. They have released games for PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360 and PC. However recently they leant towards Microsoft more.

Exclusive does mean exclusive but that is only explained to the public and the developers at the time for the deal and the press release. Things change at last minute (Bioshock as an example again) to clarify, Bioshock was scheduled for a multi-platform release, 2 weeks before release, Microsoft pulled the plug on the PS3 release and resorted to waving around the exclusivity contract. A year went by and 2K games announced a PS3 version. Whether the exclusivity contract expired or Microsoft said "yeah go on let them have it now" no one knows but again following the news just shows exclusive doesn't always mean exclusive.

Your second part is pretty much true however. The 360 fanbase alone exceeds PS3's, throw in the PC fanbase and the PS3 looks smaller than an ant being viewed from outerspace.

The above paragraph is the reason as to why Bethesda don't care for the PS3...well "don't care" is a bit harsh to say but at the end of the day, they are willing to lose the PS3 fanbase compared to the 360/PC fanbase. There is more money to be found in Microsoft's section than Sony's and with Microsoft constantly waving that cash around, Beth Soft would be stupid to just sit by and watch others grab it.

also Johnny...Todd Howard is awesome, he has never whined like a little bitch, hell he has nothing to whine about...sounds like you are the one whining like a bitch

quote redneonfish

At the moment there is no need to be bitching about DLC (goes to everyone). By the time it comes out, there will be other great games out, and perhaps a complete edition will come out, like they did with Oblivion.

That's factually incorrect. The Oblivion Game of the Year edition for PS3 does not include downloadable content exclusive to PC and the Xbox. Also, you can't reasonably claim that the entire purpose of this thread is irrelevant because by the time the DLC arrives there will be "other games". We aren't talking about other games, we're talking about this game.

As for Shave_ya_head's comment on the end of the first page, he said that the Xbox should have outsold the PS3 2-1, because it's been out a year longer. He obviously didn't realize, however, that CURRENTLY (meaning right now), it's selling 2 xbox's per ps3. That means, everytime one person buys a PS3 TODAY, 2 people have bought a 360.

Microsoft has more to spend. More input, more output.

Just because the 360 has sold more, doesnt make it the better console, microsoft think they are the best and they are higher thn anyone, i could stamp on bill gates's head, and he would die, i would get the same punishment for killing bill gates as i would for killing a normal man.

Its totally up to you, but personaly, and i mean this, i think we will NEVER know which is the best console, try to calm down a bit people , i said i wasnt trying to start a flaming war.

i would say, well done enjoy it, to the 360 fans, but you know as well as i d they would just throw it back in my face, thats how Fanboyish your 360 girls are

It's also worth noting that the Xbox 360 costs about half of what a PS3 costs. For any casual gamer, or young person on a tighter budget it is the logical choice.

I really don't think fanboyism has anything to do with this. Maybe 1% of console owners fall into that category, and they tend to be the ones who also show up in forums. The vast majority of console owners are just casual gamers, who favour the Xbox because it is cheaper and has a wider array of "casual" games available for it. So it's not about one being any better than the other.

Shall we just leave it at that? This thread's gone pretty off topic. It's already turned into a mild flame war.

you do have a point jonny g, but what about those who have the money, but still choose the ps3, like me, i thinks its not because i dont like 360's they are ok, its just ive loved playstations all my life, so im just loyal to playstation, i suppose the only people who really know which is best is the people who have both consoles, i had a wii and a ps3 at the same time, and the gtting the wii was the biggest waste of money ever

Good point Johnny. Although, Sony aren't yet turning a profit with the PS3. Until they do, Sony won't risk buying exclusive dlc.

Well, they've been getting close to getting a profit. They've already got a price cut in order for March, so that's a sign of good things to come.