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Jul 29, 07 at 12:33pm
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That reminds me... Is there a particular reason for the S-32 (SU47 prototype) in AC5 stalling so abruptly when its speed drops too low? That plane had a great paint scheme (sp).



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The belkan one ?..anyway The prototype thing is Su-47 ,S-32 is Improved Su-37 ,unfortunately that aircraft remains in concept..Russian now working on PAK FA



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Jul 29, 07 at 7:58pm
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Are you sure? It's the plane which is just like the SU47 except the thrusters are different, and have vectoring capabilities I think. It also features the forward swept wings.
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quote sum_dude
Are you sure? It's the plane which is just like the SU47 except the thrusters are different, and have vectoring capabilities I think. It also features the forward swept wings.
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The belkan one ?..anyway The prototype thing is Su-47 ,S-32 is Improved Su-37 ,unfortunately that aircraft remains in concept..Russian now working on PAK FA
ooops i mistyped..S-32 is Improved Su-47 sorry Sum_dude..and have a nice trip


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Hands down, no BS the SU-47 Berkut. It has got to be one of the sexiest birds in the sky. I have a few lovely backgrounds of this plane. But, unfortunately it will likely not lead to a production aircraft in the same design. But technology from the SU-47 will be built into the PAK FA. Most likely aero-elastic tailoring experience gained from the wing. Sukhoi was denied the funding to build a second prototype. My guess for denied funds was it was better to upgrade the current Flanker fleet and producing the SU-34 Fighter-bomber. But, the Berkut has lasted longer in the testing phase than the SU-37 and MIG 1.44, both of which have been canceled.
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Hands down, no BS the SU-47 Berkut. It has got to be one of the sexiest birds in the sky. I have a few lovely backgrounds of this plane. But, unfortunately it will likely not lead to a production aircraft in the same design. But technology from the SU-47 will be built into the PAK FA. Most likely aero-elastic tailoring experience gained from the wing. Sukhoi was denied the funding to build a second prototype. My guess for denied funds was it was better to upgrade the current Flanker fleet and producing the SU-34 Fighter-bomber. But, the Berkut has lasted longer in the testing phase than the SU-37 and MIG 1.44, both of which have been canceled.
Hmm does make sense..however a prototype of MIG-1.44 did exist..that cutie is probably used as a testbed for Russian Plasma Stealth technology
Su-37's fate well i don't know whether any of them remains
..well probably they've been converted into Su-35
and Sukhoi also produce new Sukhoi aircraft Called Su-35BM an improved Su-35



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see, you aren't the only one in love with the su's. but hey i like this bird a bit more

Fa-22

I love how it can stan on end with VECOTORED THRUST!!! (thought that would sound cool) I know its hard to tell, but around 2 minutes i belive, it does it right above the camera.


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One of the SU-37s crashed the other one was retrograded to SU-35 standard. Not much of a downgrade, all they did was just pull the thrust-vectoring engines out of it. I have seen videos of Flankers performing feats of mobility that I did not think aerodynamically possible. I've seen a nose-up hover, controlled flat-spin and of course Victor pugachevs kulbit maneuver, an aerial somersault. The craziest thing I've seen yet is a maneuver called a "super cobra", a double mid-air flip. If any aircraft in the world can take on western fighter in the dog-fight, it will in all likely be a Russian Flanker. I also hold the dogfighter in much higher esteem than the guy who is launching missiles from 50-60 miles away. All he has to do is just lock-launch, realign, lock-launch visa-versa. Not much skill required if you ask me.
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Aug 27, 07 at 6:09am
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couple things, if you continue to post here, JOIN NOW DAMMIT, we need more members. lol

and back on topic, if you are reffering to a video game, then yes no skill, in real life, screw that I'll hang back.

but I doubt we will ever see a su, vs a F-whatever, in real life, if we did, usa would most likely win as russia doesn't have enough moeny to mass produce like we do.

but the SUs are sexy birds.

now im outnumbered, 2 SU fanatics on 1 western fanatic.


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Russian Flanker. I also hold the dogfighter in much higher esteem than the guy who is launching missiles from 50-60 miles away. All he has to do is just lock-launch, realign, lock-launch visa-versa. Not much skill required if you ask me.
i'm on you with that..unfortunately nowadays engagement will likely based on Beyond Visual Range, USA with AIM-120D while Russia with RVV-AE-PD or R-77M1 and K-100 Missiles that capable to strike enemy from 400km away
and Europeans with MBDA meteor

However if the guy who like using Missiles from about 60-70Nm faced Su-35BM his Missiles would probably being evaded or even engaged by Su-35's RVV-AE Missile that capable of destroy AMRAAM and even precision guided munitions like JDAM or Paveways

Su-35BM's irbis N035 Radar or Irbis-E may detect 3 square meter RCS around 200Km..however for target like F-22 it would drop to somewhere along 90Km or less
depend on the Stealth's position

and here's EADS view about Stealth


stealth won't work against advanced Electro Optical censor....like the one fielded in Su-35BM,MIG-35 and EF-2000



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those manuvers you are refering to, xeno knows their exact names, but the nose up hover is a cobra manuver, the Fa-22 can acomplish this as well, the backflip thing. I think xeno said that was the chakra, or somthing


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dammit xeno, you broke up my post, dam psp takes forever



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Aug 27, 07 at 6:19am
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oh that maneuvers called "frolov Chakra"
click the below my Banner and watch some..performed by Su-30

he..he Raptor may do Cobra thanks to its Thrust vectoring Nozzles
superhornet may do that too but with air intakes optimized



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Aug 27, 07 at 6:28am
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what? no funny comment about my psp? you dissapoint me.

hopefully such manuvers would be useable in gamd

I wonder if J-star would be useable in AC6, just imagine, the other guy would always have a radar lock warning.


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