In AI skirmish it's hella fun to just whore pacs and dev warships. Instant win because the cpu rarely builds enough anti AA.

The AI does build a lot of AA stuff, especially if it's a turtle. I've seen a ring of AA guns around a single outpost before on quite a few occasions. Stops practically any air force except devastators as they out-range them, as I have said before.

true that, i've seen the ring of AA myself, and not even on hard, i see it on medium plenty, and as for the devys and PACs assault force, they compliment each other b/c they are supposed to, scrin truly own the skies...

i have heard it said, that the overall trait for each side is as follows...

GDI-specialize in armour and vehicles (hence the mammoth, GDI's true strength lies in their vehicles)

Nod-gurrilla tactics, hit & run, stealth (not really meant
for head on assaults, but can adjust, with proper numbers)

Scrin-air power (nuff said)

Well that's what's meant to be although it's turned out a bit wrong in gameplay really. Right now GDI relys on Turtling and Air power while Scrin steamroll their opponents with unit mixes, Nod barely use stealth anymore they now rely on numbers (scorpspam) and sometimes use the Shadow Team+Specter+STank tactic which is effective.

Well, the main idea of GDI has been steamroller tactics, and they did have the more advanced airforce, they had orcas, the first VTOLs, they looked suitably high-tech as well. Mammoth tanks have always been GDI's signature unit, as they were the most expensive unit in the original, (1,500), besides MCV's, (they were 5,000! Talk about expensive).

yea, i have loved the mammoth since the day i first layed eyes on it, been my fav unit ever since as well...

besides that, GDI is a smack em around, knock em down, then finish em off kinda group...suits my style of play best...which would explain why i take to the black hand so well..lol

and yea, i have to admit, even i tend to just spam scorps nowadays when i use Nod, unless i have plety of money, then its avatars with the flamethrower, to mimic purifyers, but its always good to send some attack bikes or stealth tanks or raider buggies or somthin, less all that money go up in smoke thanks to air units..lol

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besides that, GDI is a smack em around, knock em down, then finish em off kinda group...suits my style of play best...which would explain why i take to the black hand so well..lol

No it's not like that anymore. GDI get owned by scrin on the battlefield with tripods and basically any other unit mix scrin does. What is GDI's biggest hard-hitter? The mammoth tank, which is so slow that before it even reaches the enemy, the enemy destroys your whole base, let's face it GDI is no longer the hard hitting faction anymore, their predator tank gets owned by disintegrators easily and late game mammoths can not handle the power of purifiers and tripods or even PACs.

thats b/c EA screwed em over with the very first patch they released...

but no matter, top dog or not, i still love the mammoth..

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besides that, GDI is a smack em around, knock em down, then finish em off kinda group...suits my style of play best...which would explain why i take to the black hand so well..lol

No it's not like that anymore. GDI get owned by scrin on the battlefield with tripods and basically any other unit mix scrin does. What is GDI's biggest hard-hitter? The mammoth tank, which is so slow that before it even reaches the enemy, the enemy destroys your whole base, let's face it GDI is no longer the hard hitting faction anymore, their predator tank gets owned by disintegrators easily and late game mammoths can not handle the power of purifiers and tripods or even PACs.

This post is full of mistakes. First of all, if your Preds are getting owned by disintegrators, use some inf .
Also, the Mammoth is cheaper than the tripod, and with the railgun upgrade it can still take down a tripod in a 1 on 1 battle. Also PACs are easily getting owned by some upgraded slingshots. Pacs are 3000 so you can build 3 slingshots to be even on the money and if he builds more then you can freely spam slingshots and upgrade them with Tungsten AA shells.
And lets not forget it has AA rockets which it can also shoot at buildings.

The only thing that hurts are Purifiers and Reaper Tripods

I will be one of the first ppl to stand behind the mammoth when the goin gets tough, but EA did nothing but lessen the mammoth's stats in their patches...read the print...

"turret speed decreased..."

and so on and so on, about 3 or 4 DOWNGRADES..WTF, but no matter, the mammy is still to be feared, when used properly...

He still looks crazy cool. And since it´s still better than 2 preds, I´ll choose it above 2 preds any time.

Also, Mammoths can, unlike purifier/tripod/blabla, drive backwards, so it can keep it's front armor to the direction the enemy is coming, while also deal some damage when retreating. If you do this correctly, you can easily stay out of Purifiers flame reach and demolish it because the purifiers laser is useless.

This message was edited by ps2fan4life on Jun 12 2008.

No my friend, if you're smart enough we know the early game scrin strike force. Gun Walker, Disintegrators, Seekers and sometimes buzzers. If you pay attention the gun walkers own infantry very bad plus disintegrators are actually quiet decent themselves.

Plus what was I saying anyway, was I saying GDI is very underpowered? No, I was saying Mammoths are underpowered, use a tripod and get to close range and see what happens to the poor mammoths, in bigger numbers it hurts even more because tripods will use their 3rd laser too and the EMPed unit gets killed even faster not to mention Tripods move faster than the slow mammy.

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I was saying Mammoths are underpowered

thank you

not that i dont think ppl realize it, but at least someone, besides me, finally came out and said it....

for the, "biggest, baddest" tank around, the poor mammy has a lot more weaknesses than it used to, yet i still say not to underestimate its usefulness, despite it lack of stats..(damn patch!!..lol)

I've been saying that from page 2 of this forum!

And yes they are useful but you can almost always expect them to die in the end but the thing is, how many units will it kill when it's alive? If you can kill $20000 worth units with 4 mammoths then you've done good but since they are so slow and hard to retreat an experienced will always destroy them.

lol, as you say..

well, i try to bring in quicker units, pitbulls, apcs, even preds, to take the heat off and let a mammy get away when it needs to...