I didn't know whether to post this in the days forum or this one Towards the end of 358/2 days when Xion fights Xigbar and he sees Ventus for a second instead of Xion. He says something like "Why do you always look at me like I killed your goldfish?" I was just wondering what is the connection between Ven and Xigbar?
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Oct 28, 09 at 4:33pm
re: Ven's appearance in days
That is awesome, however, I have not played Days so I do not know the entire context. However, that is interesting. A connection between Xion and Ven... hmmm
I guessXigbar remembers Ven from his days as Braig, one of Ansem's assistants, who will appear in Birth By Sleep. There's surely more to it, but that's probably where it starts.
That is awesome, however, I have not played Days so I do not know the entire context.
Spoiler: Something like...
Everyone seems to see different people when they look at Xion. Roxas and Namine can see her face as it is, and for a while, it appears that Axel could only see her as having her hood up, until they became friends and Xigbar saw Ven for whatever reason.
Well Xigbar knows a lot about what happened back then. You can see him in one of the secret scenes in FM+ talking to Zexion about the keyblade wars and something about Xehanort.
Xion mostly looks like Kairi because of Soras memories but it looks like he has some memories of Ven in there as well. Then again Xigbar was the only one who saw him, Axel didn't have a clue of what was going on. This just proves that Sora and Ven are connected somehow.
Everyone seems to see different people when they look at Xion. Roxas and Namine can see her face as it is, and for a while, it appears that Axel could only see her as having her hood up, until they became friends and Xigbar saw Ven for whatever reason.
Spoiler: What really happened
Xion is part of a cloning project (Xion = No. i or No. I (I = Roman numeral 1)) to clone the power of a Keyblade wielder, she was actually made WITHOUT a face, but through memories of Sora from Roxas, she became her own person (and gained her face). So in the beginning, she had no face.
Namine can see her face because she is connected to Sora and Roxas and Axel could when she trusted them.
I cannot explain the Ven part though
quote ViperSean
Spoiler: Endgame spoiler
Eventually, Roxas sees Sora when he looks at her.
Spoiler: Why
He sees Sora's face because Xion is losing her own face. She's losing her face because her memories are being taken from her (The memories allowed her to have a face)and being put into Sora.
Everyone seems to see different people when they look at Xion. Roxas and Namine can see her face as it is, and for a while, it appears that Axel could only see her as having her hood up, until they became friends and Xigbar saw Ven for whatever reason.
Spoiler: What really happened
Xion is part of a cloning project (Xion = No. i or No. I (I = Roman numeral 1)) to clone the power of a Keyblade wielder, she was actually made WITHOUT a face, but through memories of Sora from Roxas, she became her own person (and gained her face). So in the beginning, she had no face.
Spoiler: No. i
It is not the Roman numeral I. The number i is the "imaginary" number; it is equal to the square root of negative one.
Everyone seems to see different people when they look at Xion. Roxas and Namine can see her face as it is, and for a while, it appears that Axel could only see her as having her hood up, until they became friends and Xigbar saw Ven for whatever reason.
Spoiler: What really happened
Xion is part of a cloning project (Xion = No. i or No. I (I = Roman numeral 1)) to clone the power of a Keyblade wielder, she was actually made WITHOUT a face, but through memories of Sora from Roxas, she became her own person (and gained her face). So in the beginning, she had no face.
Namine can see her face because she is connected to Sora and Roxas and Axel could when she trusted them.
I cannot explain the Ven part though
quote ViperSean
Spoiler: Endgame spoiler
Eventually, Roxas sees Sora when he looks at her.
Spoiler: Why
He sees Sora's face because Xion is losing her own face. She's losing her face because her memories are being taken from her (The memories allowed her to have a face)and being put into Sora.
Thorn, both are incorrect.
Spoiler: The REAL reason
Xion has the appearance of a girl to Roxas and Axel because of all the memories of Sora inside Xion, the ones of kairi are the strongest, so she is seen through Roxas and Axel. It is not exact though, mostly based off kh1 kairi. And Xion's purpose was to become a SORA clone, working for the organization, the memories are inside her, and her purpose was almost complete, she looked like sora because the transformation would be finished as soon as she had absorbed Roxas, the other part of sora.
Xigbar saw Ventus, from Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, from Xion because it is known that Braig was involved in Birth By Sleep, around the time which Ven was going around, although any connection is unknown, but we know there is one.
ViperSean, It is revealed that Xion's name is No I. for Number one of the clone project. It's in the game itself in the secret journals.
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since: May 2009
Oct 28, 09 at 11:33pm
re: Ven's appearance in days
Kurix
Spoiler: THIS was right
she was actually made WITHOUT a face,
This WAS shown in a cutscene towards the end of the game
Spoiler: I meant
but through memories of Sora from Roxas
Yeah, I just realised this was wrong, it was actually of Kairi
Spoiler: This
He sees Sora's face because Xion is losing her own face. She's losing her face because her memories are being taken from her (The memories allowed her to have a face)and being put into Sora.
This is mostly right too.
Spoiler: She
She WAS returning to Sora. Or atleast starting to get ready for it to happen.
Oh well. Maybe I am wrong, but I remember this all from Days....
quote ViperSean
I'm looking at the Secret Report right now; it says "No. i" - lowercase.
Spoiler: Quote from the secret reports
We embarked upon our Replica program to ensure our new porwer stays ours. Now, our shadow puppet, "No. i" lives.
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If it were for the Replica Project, then Riku Replica would have had a number retconned onto him when they mentioned him in passing.
Another secret report stated that Repliku was a failure undeserving for a name. Quote: Day 23: Research Entry 326:I intend to take the other vessel-judged unfit for number status- to Castle Oblivion, where I will subject it to further testing.
Thorn, Xion wasn't losing memories, she was gaining them, her purpose wasn't for her to go to sora, but for sora to go to her.