Is there gonna be a broken trio for this game as well? Waddya think? Or is there already one?

quote jondog3

Is there gonna be a broken trio for this game as well? Waddya think? Or is there already one?

Not quite, but some Co's are definitely outclassed by others by a substantial margin.

*coughTABITHAcough*

I suppose the Intelligent Defense Systems COs would be the real broken ones, Caulder, Penny, and Tabitha.

Tabitha's is pretty bad though.

Firestorm - 8 Damage to enemy units over a 5x5 diamond.

I wonder if people will really use tabitha, she seems really too broken. With her in a unit it adds 4 stars to DEF and ATK, so its not like its easy to stop her COP either.

Waylon makes Duster's look really impressive. Too bad they're only really good vs. air units.

I don't know Caulder's stats though.

Tabitha CO Range isnt big at all either it starts at 0 so she can really suck if u dont use her right...You gotta really protect her until the Co Range increases to benefit ither Units...i Usually put her in rocket or anti tank and just surround it that way once u get the Co range increased itll be awsome with 4 tanks aorund u

oh, I'll take back what I said. I didn't know that she didn't have a CO zone.

Her COP is pretty awesome.

Gage is pretty broken

I am thinking of

Gage
Tabitha
Caulder

Waddya reckon? Penny isn't too unfair.

Oh, and Tabitha is kinda like the new Sturm then?

This message was edited by jondog3 on Jan 26 2008.

Tasha/waylon - they aren't too bad. On an air map, that is. Since air units often travel in packs, its nice to have a lot of +DEF. (with waylon)

I don't know though, they all seem to have their uses, that it'll be pretty hard to narrow it down to 3. If you could, they'd have very slight levels that it wouldn't be really noticeable, unless caulder is really good.

Well I reckon Grit (Gage) should still be part of the broken trio.

Because the original trio was:

Nell
Max
Kenbei

The current one is:

Hachi
Colin
Grit

I've never really agreed with your broken trio in AWDS. I just don't see how Grit is in there and Sasha isn't. Besides the other COs you listed and adder/koal, she can keep every CO from using their SCOP easily.

Well, um, before we get in this huge AWDS debate, gage is definitely kind of broken, cause him in a battleship isn't that bad either.

This message was edited by dbzmaster on Jan 26 2008.

AW DoR you mean.

I reckon

Gage
Tabitha
Caulder (?)

What? I was talking about AWDS in the beginning.

I'd say...

Gage/Isabella
-Isabella doesn't have the extra star for ATK that Gage does, however that makes little difference. Since that's only in the CO zone, Isabella has +1 DEF & ATK to all units, while gage only has that for indirects. Their COPs are the same, however, Isabella has an added bonus of +2 movement to all units (which is really awesome).
If you are strictly using indirects, gage would probably be better.
Tabitha

I don't know who the other would be.

Im not sure about Caulder since the final mission is so hard..

Tabitha really isnt that broken.....Sure shes got a good COP and but her CO zone is 0 and even when its full its at like 2 any player somebody like Forscythe can counter her easy with his huge CO Zone because a bunch of units that are powered up is always better than 2 or 3 even if that 2 or 3 get more powered up...Rockets and Anti Tanks can bring anything down in a few hits i think everyone has their strengths and weaknesses just not sure about Caulder

I reckon Tabitha will go in, and, well, Isabella is not the best CO, she is more of an all-rounder in her CO Zone. She is like a different Will.

Gage being as a future broken CO is imminent. He is a new Grit, but (AWDS Talk) Sasha was not better. Sasha battling Adder would be pointless. Colin, Hachi were definitely better than her but grit? I am not too sure, but he is probably better than Sasha.

Back to DoR talk

Yeah, I do not know who will be a third broken trio CO, but all I have thought about so:

Gage - He is very broken, and in a naval or mono naval battle, his CO Zone is incredible. His Power should actually be +1 range of indirect units, really. He is pretty definite about becoming broken.
Tabitha - She is very broken on an occasion, and she is deadly on Small maps. Her Power, Firestorm, has brought up Sturm from the originals. However, she does not have a movement cost of 1 on any terrain which evens it out slightly.

I am not too sure either, maybe Greyfield?

Gage
Tabitha
???

Sasha beats grit out since he can't use his COP or SCOP. Its unlikely that +1 range to indirects will help you very much. Sasha gains 100 gold a city, which can help depending on the map. I also have reason to believe COPs raise your DEF, but I haven't tested it. Also, all I said was that Sasha couldn't use her CoP vs. those people (Adder), not that they would battle.

Jondog there is a difference between Gage and Isabella, and I have reason to believe that Isabella is better. She is no where near a different Will, in fact the only thing they have the same is the mobility +2 in their COP. You realize that Isabella has the +2 range to indirects too, right? Not to mention that, when using COP, you loste your CO zone, which means that Gage's added bonus to indirects ATK is gone.

Also Isabella has +2 to all units movement in her COP. Really, I was just using her, its extremely useful. With this, she easily beats Gage out using battleships, because with her in one, the battleship has +2 movement and +2 attack range. Its almost godly.