...And vehicles... And some cool effects of things like the message box... etc. etc.

If you use a little imagination you can use the picture effects to make the fog effects. You can change the Opacity of any picture when you load it, you can also rotate and move the pictures. You can probably do more with these functions than you could with XP.

@ Breyyne - Why should you have to go out of your way to do that?

@ jaydenfox - You do know that those features are lame. All you need to do is change the players graphic sprite, and wahoo! you have a vehicle. Auto-generating cruddy dungeons is also so stupidly noobish that no one in their right mind would ever consider using it >.>

Auto dungeon is bad. But the vehicles... It's a lot easier to use that function... I mean, you can control what tiles it goes on easily, the speeds are already set, it has it's own music... It's a lot better than graphic change...

@Devro - Same reason people go out of their way to make Minkoff style battle systems. Because it is something we want but weren't given ready access to.

You said it better than I. Really, everybody loved the vehicle system because it was easy to use and it was fun. People liked 2k3's battle system as well. We made replacements for them in XP by using other things like scripts or events... But if it's given to us on our doorstep, why no use it? You know what they say... "If life gives you lemons, make lemonade." Of course, it doesn't apply if you're alergic to citrus, i which case... "If life gives you lemons, shrivel up and die."

Why dont you just learn how to use terrain tagging, its very easy then youve got the same cool functions VX has [/sarcasm]

But seriously, VX offers nothing new and is so obviously a step back for people that have been using it for longer like us. Great for newbies, but once you hit the intermediate stage your gonna be hampered by it.

@ Breyyne - I just mean it should be a standard feature.

You were just saying it should be a standard feature???

quote devro_weapon

You do know that those features are lame. All you need to do is change the players graphic sprite, and wahoo! you have a vehicle.

quote jaydenfox

Not exactly what I see here.

I did read it... Perhaps I comprehended it the wrong way? It just seemed like you were saying that it was lame, then saying that it should be standard, so I got all confused

Why not open a new discussion for this? There may not be anyone using the cruddy mapping system to post maps, but its still a gallery, lets try to keep it that way.

Breyyne seems to like VX xD
I like it, but XP...well it seems they're for different styles of games, depends what you like. And Ari's right, let's keep the gallery uncluttered.

I may try my hand at a few naturefied maps soon, (like tonight) but i'll probably be disgusted by the squareness

The style of game is definitely a factor in RM choice i'd say.
As painful as the tilesets are, they remind me of the old days.

One of the most annoying things is not being able to curve anything >.>

I tried my hand at several types of cave, snow, desert, and badlands map. most made me sick. the caves look horrible, the snow land doesn't have any good looking cliffs, the desert....

I'm staying on XP.