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Krunal
Nov 07, 08 at 11:05pm
[ Major Spoilers ] Story Discussion Thread

I'll warn you guys now... I will be talking about events that happen at the end of the game, and so expect MAJOR SPOILERS.

Well I guess the first thing I need to say about the story is... wow. The story is absolutely amazing. It's brilliant. It's really well thought out, and I really never guessed that Princess Cordelia would turn out to be a Darcson. It was also good the way Rosie's Potential changed from Darcson Hater to something to do with singing in honour of Isara.

And talking about her, her death was definitely unexpected. I could see that Is would change Rosies feelings about Darcsons, but I didn't expect her to do it via her death. Was definitely a somewhat... predictable, (i.e. Alicia & Welks) yet, moving game. The ending didn't hold out any stops either.

If I were to give the storyline a rating out of 1-10, it'd definitely be in the 9-10 range, though it was somewhat short... that said I still have to read all the writings-on-the-wall.

I compare this game story to FFXII's, and it is just SOO much better.




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I finished the game not too long ago. I was so shocked when Isara died, didn't expect that and was thinking that there is no way a main character of the game dies until the burial ceremony.

I also saw Isara changing Rosie's way through her kindness and the ability to not give up when faced with adversity. Isara had a lot of things against her, being that her father died when she was young and getting constantly discriminated against. That didn't bring her down, she followed in her father's footsteps with pride and passion. Also, like her profile says, instead of bitterness, Isara develop great respect for brother.

She had dreams of not only becoming a mechanic/engineer, but also find a way to have all people come to respect Darcson race and develop a plane so her brother can one day fly. Even through she was a fictional character, all in all, I admire people who keep going when they have so many things going against them and I think that is the reason why I find her death so shocking and her being one of the first character to see in the game.

I say the game was well done since it was so moving and I've played many games where the main character dies such as crono in chrono trigger, Aeris in Final Fantasy 7, and that axe guy in Persona3. There death did surprise me, but their death didn't bother me so much. I'm not sure why, but I think cause their death were expected and I didn't like the axe guy to begin with, lol.
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Isara's death pissed me off because there was no reason behind it. I know deaths and used to add emotion to the story but when the death is the cause of some random sniper on the field well that just pisses me off. It's one of those deaths that, after they happened, it was not special at all because it could of happened any other time.

The story overall was cheesy. REALLY CHEESY. I'm no anime expert but none of the animes I've watched or JRPG games I've played were as cheesy as this game. Still, it was moving.



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Jan 24, 09 at 1:49am
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Darknet:
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The story overall was cheesy. REALLY CHEESY.
Almost an understatement. The cheesiness of this game was grouse. If not for the implementation of some serious atrocities of war this would have been almost unbearable.

Isara's death was a "good" move in my opinion though. It added some substance to the story.
Through a sniper? Well, why not, people do die "for no reason" in wars. Some emotional death with "meaning" where someone "sacrifices" oneself or some such would just have pushed the cheesiness over the edge of the bearable.

In short:
The story was OK but a little too cheesy.

@Krunal
No! It's not better than FXII's story. Not really worse either. They are both OK but have their limitations.
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Feb 08, 09 at 5:13am
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I agree with the whole cheesiness of the game, I would have liked it to be a little more mature and moving, the nature of war can be an interesting subject if shown properly, but instead the game prefers to focus in the "Super-Natural Valkyrur" and pays little attention to the actual suffering of the people Gallia and the consequences of war.


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Krunal
Feb 08, 09 at 11:14am
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The whole game is supposed to be about the war and defeating the empire, which could really only be done by the Valkyria, so it makes sense that the story pays more attention to that. I can't seem to think of what else they could focussed on.

As for this game vs FFXII, I felt that this game had a far better storyline and character development (FFXII had nill).




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Feb 08, 09 at 6:28pm
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They could have focused on getting across the message of the reality of war on Gallia instead of showing crappy dialogue and extremely poor developed villains. As one gets closer to the end, the story veers off the path of historical allegory and gets lost in its fantasy elements; I'm not going to say they should erase the whole Valkyria element from the game but the story does becomes more vague and generic thanks to it. At least that's how I see it.

Also in the end you do defeat the empire without depending on the Valkyria power of Alicia, unless you count the hole she did with the Lance in the left side of the Marmota and her "Mysterious Body" and "Valkyria" potentials. Faldio was the one who wanted to use Alicia in order to destroy the empire and make Gallia a country that neither the Empire or the Federation should underestimate.


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Sep 01, 09 at 10:51pm
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My thoughts can be guessed at by two statements

1) The battle system was average in execution (nice idea though) and it's flaws brutally exposed by the requirement of aggressive attacking speed to get A rank.

2) It is now one of my favorite games that I have ever played

Two moments that brought tears to the eyes, Isara's sudden death when they were celebrating, combined with Rosie's song at the funeral. Then there was Selvaria's death for a man she loved, from her last battle to her eventual death, it was a painful wrench to see it unfold (my wanting her to be with the man she wanted may have tinted my view there I'll admit). There were amusing moments (Hans! Free for all fight!), entertaining characters throughout. touching moments like the cabin , it was a story capable of suddenly producing a shock, like the Princess example. There were nasty moments in the good way, the concentration camp, the racism, the story combined with a good script and an interesting bunch of characters made it very enjoyable. Would put it alongside, FFX, MGS series and COD4 as one of the best stories I have played

It wasn't perfect by any means. Could have seen a lot more from the Imperials (two of the four Generals were barely touched upon) point of view and after the death of Selvaria, things started to fall apart. I don't know if the game might have been better going for a cliffhanger but it seemed to try to do too much in the last chapter or so, the only thing we didn't seem to get was Godzilla joining in. I think the ending lacked punch, Faldio's death didn't affect me much for example. I also felt their handling of Maximilian was bizarre, he went from an interesting villain who showed at times why people served him to a man who suddenly went insane in the most cliche way possible. In one chapter they pretty much seemed to change everything that he was.

If I was making the TV series, I would be asking to be allowed to take serious liberties with the script to ensure a better ending.
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