After taking a few days off from R6V2 I went back today. Well, compared to COD4 the multiplayer in R6V2 is shit. Pardon me if I'm wrong but every single game mode has a respawn of like 8 seconds. You spawn in the same spot every time which leads to atrocious spawn killing. It takes about ten minutes to find a playable match. You get booted after every single ranked matched. I can see they don't want you to whore achievements or whatever but come on, make it like every three at least. The people who whore achievements will just get together again; it just makes it difficult for the rest of us. And, once you get booted it takes 10 minutes to find another game. Seriously COD4 multiplayer > this. Don't get me wrong, co-op campaign and t-hunt are great but the multiplayer in this is pretty damn bad.

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1. Have patience for the respawn... Gives you a chance to switch your gear anyways. If you can't wait for 8 seconds, you must have ADHD.

2. Its your own fault if you let them spawn kill you. The goal, in a sense, is to hold them off from your spawn while still maintaining the lead. If they're able to spawn kill you, you probably would have lost the game anyways.

3. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find a playable match, takes like 30 seconds.

4. Who cares about achievements, just play a player's match.


I'm not saying that your wrong about CoD4 being better though, its just that your reasons are a bit stupid.

quote kyledawg92

1. Have patience for the respawn... Gives you a chance to switch your gear anyways. If you can't wait for 8 seconds, you must have ADHD.

When you die as soon as you spawn from spawn killers it is kind of hard. Or if you aren;t getting spawn killed I want to get back in the action not wait. The gameplay is slow-paced as it is I don't want to have to wait even longer.

quote kyledawg92

2. Its your own fault if you let them spawn kill you. The goal, in a sense, is to hold them off from your spawn while still maintaining the lead. If they're able to spawn kill you, you probably would have lost the game anyways.

No shit you lose. It takes 8 seconds to respawn so one of our guys spawns like every two seconds and they have 4 of there guys all shooting at you.

quote kyledawg92

3. It doesn't take 10 minutes to find a playable match, takes like 30 seconds.

No, it takes 10 minutes. "Unable to connect to host," "Match is now full," and some other random message error. Takes like five minutes to find the matches and then takes forever to find a joinable one.

quote kyledawg92

4. Who cares about achievements, just play a player's match.

That is what I'm saying... You have to restart the 10 minute search after every ranked match. The reason they do this is because of achievements; faggots who just cheat achievements made it this way.



All your "counter-arguements" were pretty stupid...

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When you die as soon as you spawn from spawn killers it is kind of hard. Or if you aren;t getting spawn killed I want to get back in the action not wait. The gameplay is slow-paced as it is I don't want to have to wait even longer.

Seriously, its only 8 seconds. Count 8 seconds, its not that long at all. You're just too used to the "spawn whenever you want" system in CoD4.

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No shit you lose. It takes 8 seconds to respawn so one of our guys spawns like every two seconds and they have 4 of there guys all shooting at you.

You don't understand what I'm saying. If you allow them to spawn kill you, then they're obviously better than you. Its your own team's fault if they start spawn killing you. If you were a better team than them, it wouldn't happen in the first place. So even if there wasn't any spawn killing, you would have lost anyways.

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No, it takes 10 minutes. "Unable to connect to host," "Match is now full," and some other random message error. Takes like five minutes to find the matches and then takes forever to find a joinable one.

It takes like 15 seconds for it to search and then 15 seconds for you to choose one and for it to connect to it. If it takes you 10 minutes, you must have a slow internet connection or something.

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That is what I'm saying... You have to restart the 10 minute search after every ranked match. The reason they do this is because of achievements; faggots who just cheat achievements made it this way.

If you don't want the achievements, then why are you playing ranked matches? The only other benefit is that TrueSkill system thing that no one really pays attention to. If you play player's matches, you can keep playing until the party leader closes the party himself.

If I recall, you're invincible in this game for a good three/four seconds after you respawn. I remember being killed AS SOON AS I SPAWNED in CoD4.

A lot of games that lack a party system don't allow you play multiple ranked matches with the same team.

To me, this game is far superior to Call of Duty 4-- offline and online.

quote kyledawg92

Seriously, its only 8 seconds. Count 8 seconds, its not that long at all. You're just too used to the "spawn whenever you want" system in CoD4.

I am used to it and I think it is way better. Eight seconds is too long and it is for every single game type I can see a longer respawn in certain games but not every single one. In a TDM you should respawn right away.

quote kyledawg92

You don't understand what I'm saying. If you allow them to spawn kill you, then they're obviously better than you. Its your own team's fault if they start spawn killing you. If you were a better team than them, it wouldn't happen in the first place. So even if there wasn't any spawn killing, you would have lost anyways.

I do understand what you are saying. And once the spawn killing starts it is hard to stop. Sure it is "our fault" maybe we had a bad start. Oh well, we have absolutely no chance to comeback now.

quote kyledawg92

It takes like 15 seconds for it to search and then 15 seconds for you to choose one and for it to connect to it. If it takes you 10 minutes, you must have a slow internet connection or something.

I actually have Optimum Online or cable connection or whatever. Point is, I have a really good connection and once I finally get in a game most people complain of lag while I'm lag free. The search system is just slow.

quote kyledawg92

If you don't want the achievements, then why are you playing ranked matches? The only other benefit is that TrueSkill system thing that no one really pays attention to. If you play player's matches, you can keep playing until the party leader closes the party himself.

When I play Player Matchs I feel like it is just for fun and doesn't count. I to be competitive and that is usually what Ranked is.

quote Cdemon

If I recall, you're invincible in this game for a good three/four seconds after you respawn. I remember being killed AS SOON AS I SPAWNED in CoD4.

Sorry, I don't mean like literally shoot you as you are spawning but they are right outside. So basically you are pinned in your spawn room (happens to me in Junkyard all the time!) And if you walk out there are three guys waiting for you, or they have C4 set up. If yous tay in the room you get bombarded by grenades. Call of Duty does have some spawning issues but the point is there isn't one specific spawn point for each team where the enemy can just camp and wait.

quote Cdemon

A lot of games that lack a party system don't allow you to play multiple ranked matches with the same team.

Why? That doesn't really make sense to me.




And I would agree this game is better offline. COD4 is just far superior online.

COD 4 MP > RB6V2 MP in almost every way.

Spawn killing is a problem that follows that feature around; I don't think we'll ever see it eliminated so I don't see any reason to hold it against RSV2 exclusively.

quote SeVenth Moon

COD 4 MP > RB6V2 MP in almost every way.

OMG OPINION NOT FACT.

quote Cdemon

Spawn killing is a problem that follows that feature around; I don't think we'll ever see it eliminated so I don't see any reason to hold it against RSV2 exclusively.

Firstly, no, I haven't played a whole lot of shooters but this is the first one I have played where it spawns you in the same exact spot every single time.

I'm pretty sure there are multiple spawn points in Vegas 2.

Gears has two spawns per map, tbh.

And it doesn't matter how many there are, quite frankly, if the location isn't near objectives or points of interest. I've been in CoD4 battles where I've spawned in the middle of a huge firefight, get killed, then spawn in the exact same spot and had the process repeated.

quote Cdemon

I'm pretty sure there are multiple spawn points in Vegas 2.

Well then you are wrong. Each team has one set spawn for the whole game.
Never played Gears online.
In COD4 I only seem to have a bad spawn once every like five games...

I've spawned in different rooms in Killhouse. The thing is, there's a "teamspawn" feature that's pretty handy; it spawns the teams in waves so there's a smaller chance of you getting spawned killed. I remember on Villa, we spawned and saw a dude trying to spawn kill. All of us were invincible and three of us had 500 tacticals. Story short, none of us died and he didn't last long.

I've yet to be killed from a shot to the foot, tbh.

quote EliteBlue

Maybe its your bad luck. Also this is your opinion.

What is, exactly?