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Topic: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!
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Sep 20, 08 at 1:09pm
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The fact you're comparing this game to console versions is a bad mistake. I would never compare the PSP versions of GTA to that. In fact I don't believe those games are even on the same quality imho, but the fact is the game was fun. Thats exactly that. Again considering this game isn't anywhere near complete I'll wait for more news before going ahead and writing it off.



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re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

But the console versions of the PSP GTA games were straight ports, weren't they? If so then it's fine to compare them, unless I am misunderstanding what you mean?



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Sep 20, 08 at 1:15pm
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Quality wise no. Remember the PS2 was alot more powerful then the PSP processor and the like.

The quality of PSP versions wasn't at all anything crazy. Compared to the PS2 that is. Comparing this game to one of those is ridiculous.



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re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

I thought that the PSP was being touted as equal to the PS2?



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quote Final Blade
Quality wise no. Remember the PS2 was alot more powerful then the PSP processor and the like.

The quality of PSP versions wasn't at all anything crazy. Compared to the PS2 that is. Comparing this game to one of those is ridiculous.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, dude. The PSP GTA versions were both deeper, fuller and more feature packed than VC or GTA III. The ONLY reason that they couldn't be as in depth as San Andreas, is because the UMD is is only around 2GB and is single layered.

The PSP is just as powerful as the PS2, with the exception of the media. The fact is that both LCS and VCS were full fledged, full blown GTA games that could go toe to toe, in all the ways that matter, with their PS2 counterparts.



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Sep 20, 08 at 1:29pm
re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

Thats only is the PSP uses its full(max) processing power Chiro. The PSP games hasn't at all used that much power, only one game so far used all of it and that God of War Chains of Olympus.

The PS2 had better quality games for GTA then the PSP.

Either way, I don't see this game sucking. I think some of us has been spoiled with the recent GTA games.



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The PS2 had better quality games for GTA then the PSP.
Again, you are 100% wrong. Have you even played LCS or VCS??? Because they were...I WILL SAY IT AGAIN...BETTER in many ways than III and VC. They had MORE FEATURES, more things to do, and more missions, particularly VCS, which was absolutely amazing.

And the PSP is every bit as powerful as the PS2. Just because SOME developers SUCK ass and can't program for it, doesn't mean that Rockstar Leeds does too.

No offense, but you really need to have some idea about what you're talking about before you make such definitive statements. Because when you go off half cocked like this, and make statements like this, you sound REALLY stupid.



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Sep 20, 08 at 1:43pm
re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

More features doesn't exactly make it better.
I have LCS and although it has features, I don't think it's on the same level as III.

Maybe I should play through it again.



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Sep 20, 08 at 1:46pm
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Maybe I should play through it again.
YOu should, because it is. You may not prefer it or like it as much, but it is on the same engine as GTA. It is Liberty City, 3 years earlier, and has basically the same gameplay as III with, as I said, more features.

Look, if you tell me you don't like it as much, I respect that. But we're talking about equal in terms of it being a full blown GTA game that could just as easily have been released on the PS2 as it was on the PSP (and in fact WAS), but we are comparing it to this abortion of a DS game masquerading as a NEW or modern GTA title. That is the relevant context.



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re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

quote ChiroVette
It is Liberty City, 3 years earlier, and has basically the same gameplay as III with, as I said, more features.

Lol... I know, hence 'again'.



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Sep 20, 08 at 9:25pm
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Yeah, I hear you. Oh, and my point wasn't to say that LCS was as good, worse, or beter than III. MANY people weren't crazy about the game. My point was a counter to FB's erroneous comments about the PSP being inferior to the PS2, in the same way that the DS is inferior to last gen's consoles. The bottom line is that GTA III could, if Rockstar ever wanted to, be ported over to the PSP in full. That is the difference between the PSP and the DS. The PSP can handle anything the PS2 can, the only difference being the media size, ie DVD Vs UMD.



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re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

Chiro, the game is coming out in Feb 2009. Judge the screenshots then. They can change from now to next Feburary.



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Sep 21, 08 at 12:02am
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Guest, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the screenshots, though, admittedly they do look like utter CRAP. While I have nothing against te DS, and I actually own one, my argument is the fact that the DS cannot handle a full blown GTA game for several reasons. One main reason is that the size of the input media is TINY compared to DVD, or even UMD. Dude, I am not trying to be an ass here, but this game is going to be about as GTA as Mario Kart. I think the DS is a great platform with an innovative interface, using the two screens and stylus, but to put a GTA game on it and expect it to be...well a GTA game, is just ludicrous.



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re: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars to be M-rated, cell shaded and more!! Update Page 6!!

quote ChiroVette
size of the input media is TINY compared to DVD, or even UMD.
So what? It depends if it's a good game or not, not what the input media is. Are you worried you'll lose it?
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but to put a GTA game on it and expect it to be...well a GTA game, is just ludicrous
As I said about the screenshots, wait for the game to be released, then judge it. You COULD be surprised. You might not like it, in which case, don't buy it. I guess Rockstar could be learning from their mistakes with GTA Advance and improve handheld GTA games. Or not. All these questions will be answered when the game comes out.



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Sep 22, 08 at 1:55am
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Guest, I don't think you understand the physics of the console. I am not worried about losing the little DS cartridge. I am talking about the complete LACK of physical space on the media (size as in STORAGE and MB versus GB), and the lack of ability to put anything remotely resembling GTA like features or environment in the game. Think about it. You will not be able to have decent radio stations, because SONGS, commercials, and DJ material takes up TOO MUCH space for a little DS cartridge.

In addition, I don't need to see more screenshots. I know for an absolute fact that the media size, processing power, and graphics chip on the DS are going to make it completely impossible to have anything eve remotely resembling a modern GTA game on the DS.

By the way, if you are one of the people who LOVE the top down GTA games of the PS1, before GTA III, then this game will probably appeal to you. But there is NO WAY that the DS could physically handle anything even approximating a full fledged GTA game. Look at the screenshots that FB posted on page 2 if you don't believe me. If that looks like a game that will appeal to you, then I respect that. But I absolutely refuse to spend the entirety of a game playing a glorified top down view. Remember, Guest, that every single thing you do in the game, including driving, rampaging, free roam, missions, gun-play, and walking around, will be spent in that view.

With the advent of modern consoles, and even the PS2/PSP level of GTA gaming, are you going to honestly tell me that this is going to interest you? Because if it is, that's cool. But I DO NOT need more screenshots or a pro review to know that this game is just going to be WAY TOO primitive for my tastes. It isn't about being closed minded, either, but about knowing what I like. I can't play GTA I, II or London for more than 5 minutes without being bored. You think this game, programmed on a console even less advanced than a PS1 is going to hold my interest longer?



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