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Final Blade Legendary Seeker total posts: 16828 GameGrep pts: 13817 since: Nov 2006	Jul 07, 09 at 2:41am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	_{Chiro, if you read my post that's what I was alluding to. By new GTA I mean a new GTA disc medium game like GTA4 or GTA5. I solely believe, like I stated in the GTA4 topic, that if any more episodes come out in the near future being new, it won't be on discs and it'll be on Downloadable content. In a business move, this not only saves then money they'll gain money quicker this way. People won't have to worry if the games sold out in stores or whatever. I don't doubt that any of the DLC's won't be added to a Disc so people who couldn't buy it online and download it due to poor internet connections, can play it. But by new disc GTA game, I literally mean GTA5. I think GTA "offset" titles on discs(first) is over. Rockstar will continue to milk the engine through DLC and it's a good business tactic. GTA isn't as big as it used to be thanks to GTA4, but I still think It has enough new fanbase with the new direction to be successful anyway. Sorry if you can't understand what I'm trying to say but I just don't think we'll see any sort of new GTA game on Disc medium in the next few years that hasn't come out on playstation network first.} ------------------- _{Welcome to Crisis Core forum} _{Welcome to Bad Company 2} _{God of War 3 official forum community}
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Ville_Valo Welcome to the Blood Machine (moderator) General PSP total posts: 10838 since: Dec 2005	Jul 07, 09 at 5:02am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote ChiroVette Most people here are calling it GTA: Next, which is something I started a while back. Yes well maybe that hasn't spread worldwide yet, and people are calling it GTA: V because 5 comes after 4. But I already outlined my opinion on the name issue. You make a good point Final Blade, but the truth is we don't know what they're going to do. I was basing my view on what they've done in the past, which is releasing new games on the same engine within a couple of years. Of course, now we have to factor in DLC, which is a new concept and something R* could handle in a number of ways. They could finish up with 4, or even 2 DLC packs on GTA IV and release a new game on the same technology. They might do this because people expect it, because a lot of people didn't like GTA IV and they want to win back fans, or because DLC popularity could drop if they keep putting it out. They might go the other way, and sustain GTA IV with DLC packs, releasing a more landmark game in 4-5 years time. This would make them more money, but GTA IV also lost a lot of fans that DLC isn't likely to bring back, and a new game could be a method of remedying this. But we just don't know. I'd like to see some more DLC, and on the PS3. From what I've heard of the Xbox stuff it seems like it shows the city from a whole new angle, and it seems really REALLY interesting. I think we'll see a new game in a year or two after the next DLC pack. I don't think they'll put out too much DLC, because people expect a new game and something different, but I could be very wrong. Sorry, that's a bit long isn't it. ------------------- GTA IV \|\| PM \|\| General PSP \|\| GB \|\| Playstation 3
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Braden Hooked on Neo total posts: 4239 neopoints: 537 since: Feb 2006	Jul 07, 09 at 11:25am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote ChiroVette Final, I never said I don't expect a full disc version of GTA in the coming few years of this generation. What I said was that I DO NOT expect GTA V, the full SEQUEL to GTA IV. So you don't consider GTA: VC as a full sequel to GTA III?
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 33570 since: Mar 2002	Jul 07, 09 at 2:24pm re: Grand Theft Auto V
	No, I do not, and either does Rockstar. They said, last gen, that the GTA games following GTA III were prequels. Certainly they were FULL GAMES, but Rockstar made it very clear that GTA IV was to be the DIRECT SEQUEL to GTA III. quote Ville_Valo Yes well maybe that hasn't spread worldwide yet, and people are calling it GTA: V because 5 comes after 4. But I already outlined my opinion on the name issue. My point is that Rockstar seems to be going with the NUMBERED GTA games only when a new generation comes out. In other words, GTA III was the PS2's first GTA game. After III, we DID NOT have IV right away, Instead, we had Vice City, SA, LCS, then VCS, all games based on the GTA III engine! GTA IV did not come out until the PS3/360 launched. What I have been saying is that we will not have GTA V until the PS4 and the next XBox. Until then we will have DLC episodes and probably a few DISC BASED games based on the GTA IV engine, in a sense this generation's equivalent to all the "prequel's" of the PS2/PSP last gen. Final Blade, is there something seriously wrong with your comprehension skills? I understood you PERFECTLY and disagreed with you. I have said MANY TIMES that I believe we will see a new GTA game ON DISC, not just DLC, but that it will NOT be GTA V. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me on this, but your incessant need to act as if I am not capable of basic reading comprehension and missed your point, when clearly I understood it, is as annoying as it is exasperation. Try to get it through your head. I UNDERSTOOD YOU perfectly. I also happen to DISAGREE with you. <eyeroll> ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Final Blade Legendary Seeker total posts: 16828 GameGrep pts: 13817 since: Nov 2006	Jul 07, 09 at 9:58pm re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote Ville_Valo You make a good point Final Blade, but the truth is we don't know what they're going to do. I was basing my view on what they've done in the past, which is releasing new games on the same engine within a couple of years. Of course, now we have to factor in DLC, which is a new concept and something R* could handle in a number of ways. _{According to the housers and the president of development I believe, he stated GTA4 was built to last for years and they're going to continue the DLC path. I think it's pretty straight forward what they're going to do. As for trying to re-coup the fanbase, I don't think they can do it anyway. People are too skeptical on GTA future where as the hype some people have had in the past don't think the next disc game will be as good. So, they'll wait and see. They're hell bent on the new direction and quite certain they'll try to rebuild the fanbase one way or another but keeping the new GTA direction. And while fans like igotfired, gamesta and chiro absolutely despise the direction, there's equally the same amount of people(many many millions) who love the direction. GTA won't be the juggernaut it once was. With SR establishing itself as a standalone game and not a GTA clone, alot of people like that direction but Volitions has terrible consumer support and one quality they should take from R. Chiro, I'm not up for debating with you. My whole point was, in terms of business and how well received the DLC has been on 360, DLC will be the new method for newer titles first. Then bring them out to Discs. It costs money to produce games on discs, cause they have to pay for the discs as well. not to mention how blu-ray discs costs alot more than DVD-9. I was basically agreeing with you when you made a comment saying "Final, I never said I don't expect a full disc version of GTA in the coming few years of this generation. What I said was that I DO NOT expect GTA V, the full SEQUEL to GTA IV." There I agreed I don't believe GTA5 will be releasing soon, and the only new games to be release FIRST will be on DLC then brought over discs as a full game pack for those who can't get it over Playstation Network or Xbox Live Marketplace. Even if it is a port, it's still a new game. I just don't believe a new disc game that hasn't been released on DLC(considering R infatuation with it) will release any time soon this generation. Or maybe when PS4 releases and they just make a new one for the PS3. I'm essentially agreeing with you there.} ------------------- _{Welcome to Crisis Core forum} _{Welcome to Bad Company 2} _{God of War 3 official forum community}
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 33570 since: Mar 2002	Jul 07, 09 at 10:27pm re: Grand Theft Auto V
	No, you aren't, and that is fine. Because (listen carefully now) I am saying I believe there will be more disc based GTA games on the PS3/360. These will be WAY TOO BIG to download from LIVE/PSN and will be disc releases. THESE will be this generation's equivalent to San Andreas, VC, LCS, and VCS. TLAD and the Gay Tony games are just DLC. If you disagree with me that is fine, but don't act as if your meaning eluded me. It didn't. ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Bandito high on "N" since: Jun 2008	Jul 07, 09 at 10:30pm re: Grand Theft Auto V
	They better.If it doesn't include flying planes don't bother. ------------------- quote Raikou376 Being called an idiot = excessive bitching? Huh? Or is that just all the talk of seizures?
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Ville_Valo Welcome to the Blood Machine (moderator) General PSP total posts: 10838 since: Dec 2005	Jul 08, 09 at 2:23am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote Final Blade _{According to the housers and the president of development I believe, he stated GTA4 was built to last for years and they're going to continue the DLC path. I think it's pretty straight forward what they're going to do.} The Housers said that? Would you mind digging up a link? If that's what they said it seems pretty clear what they're going to do then. This message was edited by Ville_Valo on Jul 07 2009. ------------------- GTA IV \|\| PM \|\| General PSP \|\| GB \|\| Playstation 3
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 33570 since: Mar 2002	Jul 08, 09 at 4:24am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	Who are you responding too, Ville? ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Ville_Valo Welcome to the Blood Machine (moderator) General PSP total posts: 10838 since: Dec 2005	Jul 08, 09 at 4:45am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	Oops, should've quoted that one I suppose. ------------------- GTA IV \|\| PM \|\| General PSP \|\| GB \|\| Playstation 3
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Gamesta100 Resident Neo total posts: 2995 since: Dec 2006	Jul 08, 09 at 7:01am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote Final Blade According to the housers and the president of development I believe, he stated GTA4 was built to last for years and they're going to continue the DLC path. Well they will be getting no money from me for years for GTA.Unless they release a new GTA on disc on the PS3, I will not be getting any more PS3 related GTA. Also if they continue to release DLC for GTAIV exclusively for 360, then that's not fair to the PS3 owners.I ay not care about GTAIV or it's DLC but they better bring out DLC for the PS3 owners who do care about GTAIV and it's DLC. ------------------- You don't have to earn my respect.You begin with it and just have to keep it.
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123 Tyron Arsenal 2-0 Olympiacos threadnought total posts: 619 since: Dec 2008	Jul 08, 09 at 6:47pm re: Grand Theft Auto V
	If you all do believe this will and eventually does happen as announced by Rockstar Games, what consoles do you reckon it will be on? I think they'll stick to the same consoles, with a later release on the PC DVD. I agree with Chirovette, I don't think Rockstar will stick with the name GTA V, but perhaps something different would be more suitable, instead of continuing the lengthly link to the first, second, third and fourth. Also finally, do you think that they will stick with Liberty City, or stick with a different one? Do all numbered GTA games feature Liberty City, with 3 and 4 using it, I've never played one or 2. Can someone please explain this to me? Thanks. Tyron ------------------- See how I am getting on with Ejido S.A.D in FMH!
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Final Blade Legendary Seeker total posts: 16828 GameGrep pts: 13817 since: Nov 2006	Jul 09, 09 at 12:04am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote Ville_Valo quote Final Blade _{According to the housers and the Vice president of development I believe, he stated GTA4 was built to last for years and they're going to continue the DLC path. I think it's pretty straight forward what they're going to do.} The Housers said that? Would you mind digging up a link? If that's what they said it seems pretty clear what they're going to do then. This message was edited by Ville_Valo on Jul 07 2009. quote Final Blade _{The thing I will apologize here is what I said about any episodic episodes being MS exclusive(while the episodes was 50 million, MS paid R* another 50 million in advance for some apparent reason which is what I thought to be any episodes to not make it's way to PS3. Idk if it's true or not). After reading a rather long thing here which states the blog that said it was ignorant and biased. Also, I find it interesting reading this that the Vice President of development, Jeronimo Barrera stated "While we have episodic content for that other console, expect something similar on the PS3 down the road.....We want this game to last for years, I'm sure we'll do another [GTA game] sometime in the future, but this one is built to last." This tells me, besides the Housers statement of PS3 getting something similar, is PS3 will end up with their own exclusive episodic content, and the other 2 that MS paid will be permanent exclusive. Which makes sense in terms of the contract. 25 dollars per episode exclusive, while PS3 get's something similar....although neither R* or Sony even mentioned what dlc they would be getting except SCEE(even though he didn't say what it was just mentioned the DLC in general) david reeves stating "Well I think you probably will see it, it's just that a deal obviously was struck between Microsoft and Take 2 to do that, and if that's what they want to do, I think that's the last shot they have." Also, I think by the time the next GTA disc medium game comes out(most likely GTA5, assuming the VP is right about the DLC making GTA4 last for years) could in fact be a PS3 exclusive. I mean unless they're just going to wait til PS4 and 720 releases to launch the title. If they do release that it could be 3 years from now, and the PS3 could have 30+ million consoles worldwide negating the whole low install base argument, since it'd be triple the amount of consoles out then it was when GTA4 first released, which iirc was 13 million to 18 for 360. This is all hypothetical and i'm only using it based off the VP words, so don't take my words as fact or passing it off as i'm right here. Just adding fuel for thought when reading this. Also, did anyone else get a kick from the first link where the guy compares the whole GTA4 DLC debacle to Stephan Kings novel movie adaptation of Misery? I did tbh.} _{The bolded part of this quote I made in may states this game was meant to last for years. However, on the flipside, the underlined part: Jeronimo Barrera did state they're sure to make another disc game, I just don't see it within the next 3 years. The PS3 will get DLC of their own but probably not exclusive. The 2 new DLC from the rumored article was it's multiplatform.} ------------------- _{Welcome to Crisis Core forum} _{Welcome to Bad Company 2} _{God of War 3 official forum community}
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Ville_Valo Welcome to the Blood Machine (moderator) General PSP total posts: 10838 since: Dec 2005	Jul 09, 09 at 1:33am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	Well yeah they'll do another disc game. GTA IV can only last so long before people want something new. Thanks for that. ------------------- GTA IV \|\| PM \|\| General PSP \|\| GB \|\| Playstation 3
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Gamesta100 Resident Neo total posts: 2995 since: Dec 2006	Jul 09, 09 at 9:39am re: Grand Theft Auto V
	quote 123 Tyron Do all numbered GTA games feature Liberty City, with 3 and 4 using it, I've never played one or 2. Can someone please explain this to me? Thanks. Tyron GTA1 had Liberty City, Vive City and San Andreas.GTA2 was set in a completely ficticious city. ------------------- You don't have to earn my respect.You begin with it and just have to keep it.
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