Ok, i just bought this game a couple of days back and after hours of playing....this is my feel of it.

This game has one huge huge problem which was never fixed in the previous one. Instead of fixing the most obvious flaw which will bring the whole game down, they decided to ignore it and went along with adding more groovy stuffs, removed co-op play, added a new female character and removed Rikimaru.

The camera angles borders to the point of being incredibly awful. I have never had so much problems playing games like RE, SH or similar games of the genre. Not to mention this is more of an action game than the rest i mentioned earlier..it makes everything really nauseating to look at ( tenchu wrath of heaven had better graphics imho btw).

Tenchu 4 or Tenchu Kurenai as it is known in Japan is a huge, huge disappointment to sum it up. Fans of the series will buy the game for sure like I did. But people new to the series will find the camera angles a little too irritating to handle.

For example, after executing a kill, where by your line of sight is clearly hidden from another enemy, the camera angle will automatically switch you into another different angle which will risk you walking into an enemy line of sight when you try and move forward to pick up the spoils of the kills.

Another situation is when you try to jump onto and grab a ledge. First, you need to do it fast so as to escape enemy detection from those who might be wandering your way. Instead of being able to see the ledge to jump onto, you have to press L1 so as to see where the ledge is located...wtf. After seeing the ledge's location, you would have to remove L1 to jump onto the ledge, at which you lose sight of the ledge again and you would have to judge and remember where the ledge is ........

Another classic example of a camera angle problem is when you run into a corner or a gap in the wall, guess wat, when you try to turn around to face the other direction, you cant....you have to manually make use of the right analog stick to turn the angle for you to make a full turn to the opposite direction. There are way too many of these different cam angle problems to list honestly. Disorientation is the name of this game...

I am quite sure I am not only the person who has played it that has nothing but complaints of the camera angle issues in the game. The other very persistent issue is the slow down of the game in many areas especiallyu when executing the ninja kills. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this issue too.?

Get it at your own risk lol.





This message was edited by k3mistry on Feb 08 2005.

I get the slow down occasionally, but it doesn't bother me much. I kinda got used to it lol but I have to agree with you about the camera angle problems. >_<

do you keep a bucket beside you when you play? tenchu 4 = retch fest lol.

seriously, i wonder where the QA was for the game and what the producers of the game were on when they did the final testing for the game.

oh yeah and how many times has squatting near the wall gotten you killed when instead of squatting, you ended you sticking to the wall where all your enemies could see you in the full.

oh and peeping around the corner has got to be one of the most useless sneak peep move in the game. when you take a sneak peak around the corner, guess what, you can barely see anything. most of the time you cant even see when an enemy walk pass you and when you have discovered that, its already too late. Sneak peeking has only 1 fixed camera angle, thats it.

there is nothing else you can do about that..u cant even see around the whole corner.........wtf....horrible

why oh why did activision sell the whole bloody game rights to From Software?.......crap

This message was edited by k3mistry on Feb 08 2005.

camera angles were business as usual. :/
i wasnt expecting much from faal shadows however. but, the rendering for the animated sequences is better i think. like in the opening for TWOH, Ayame looks like she's been awake for two weeks. XDD eew...
the camera DOES make me a little sick, but ive gotten used to it. Tenchu is like my guilty pleasure. XP

im currently two stages away from beating TWOH (im a late gamer) and im two chapters into fatal shadows.

the story seems a little more interesting in fatal shadows. instead of, ooh, evil sorceror guy on the rampage. :P
one thing i dont like about fatal shadows is the prologue sequence before each chapter. too monotonous? :/

Rin is so cute too... XD

Tenchu Kurenai is very dissapointing.. bout the FMV Opening of TWOH.. i LIKE Ayame better there.. hahah she looks like a true ninja who does sleep. hahaha but good CG there.. unlike in Tnechu Kurenai, Has no FMV.. just full of CG.. why did they that that off.. and yup.. i agree to that.. the camera angle still sucks!!! PLUS... no Rikimaru or hidden character at all.. too bad..

This game's camera is fine! And what is wrong with your eye-sight if you think the 'peer' around corners was not enough to see oncoming guards? WTF? And what about ledges? Cant get higher. Use a grapple hook.

What console is this on?

I think that by 'Kurenai', they mean 'Fatal shadows'. You got Fatal Shadows right?

Ahh, Fatal Shadows.

No, but it's on mhy must get list.

Good! We can then both raid the Fatal Shadows forum. The game is excellent, and the gameplay blows WoH out the water! Items and abilities are great too. Highly recommended!

As I said, I'll need to get it first.

that = maybe one week though.

Ah well, good luck with attaining the game. On another note Fatal shadows does not include Rikimaru, a risky move from the producers, but the story is still excellent. Even though the Azuma master was taking a nap under a few tonnes of brick at the time.

A few tons of BricK?

When this happen?

As i said in one of the other threads. You must get Tenchu: Stealth assassins! All will be explained... unless you want me to explain? I can start another thread discussing it eh?

Dman straight, and post Youtube vids.