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Aug 16, 08 at 7:28am
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If Mitsuhide hadn't assassinated Nobunaga at Honnoji, The Oda forces would have continued conquering warlords and takin their land. The Shibata would have annihalted the Uesugi and Hideyoshi would have destroyed the Mogami. The only reason the Oda fell was because of treachery. no one else dared try to assassinate him. Maybe Nobunaga would have created it, shaped it, AND tasted it, as spawn quoted.


What if Keiji Maeda wasn't as berserk and stayed with the same force throughout his life?



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Aug 17, 08 at 3:13pm
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If Keiji wasn't as berserk, wouldn't he be less of a fighter and therefore die quicker ....

But regardless, that force would be a force to be reckoned with, at least until they got too weirded out by him and sent him on some form of suicide mission.

What if Nobunaga never became a great ruler or existed ...?



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Aug 17, 08 at 3:19pm
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If Nobunaga never existed I guess Yoshimoto would have proceeded to the capital and taken it. The Tokugawa would most likely continue to serve the Imagawa. And I also believe that the Hojo, Takeda and the Uesugi would have allienced themselves with the Imagawa. Hideyoshi would never have raised in ranks... I think central Japan would have been taken by the Imagawa... and that's it. All the fiefs surrounding Nobunagas Fief allienced themselves against him, so I guess they all had a great relationship.
All of those warlords whom Hideyoshi gathered wouldn't have been so mighty, and all of those warlords who Nobunaga defeated in RL would have been unstoppable.

But I guess you would end up with some different kinds of conflicts. The new way of the Samurai would never have been created... so I guess overall the Samurais lifespan would have become longer.



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Aug 19, 08 at 11:53am
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What if the Ten Eunuchs never assassinated lord He Jin?



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Aug 20, 08 at 3:33am
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I assume that He Jin would rise a rebellion and soon after he would be the next Emperor. Yuan Shao and Cao Cao worked under him. Liu Bei would still trying to rebuilt the Han Empire again and started another rebellion. Cao Cao and Yuan Shao soon would join Liu Bei. Dong Zhuo would join too and they fought against him, but again, Dong Zhuo would take over the throne. The warlords would join an alliance against Dong Zhuo and you all know the rest... So, I conclude that whether He Jin was killed or not, it didn't really change the history.

What if Guan Yu failed to escape from Cao Cao after the Battle of Guan Du?



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Aug 20, 08 at 10:19am
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Hmm, I think with Guan Yu knowing where Liu Bei was, he would either escape or die fighting to escape so in this case, I believe that he would either just commit suicide if captured or possibly take out his anger on some Wei troops (those under Xiahou Dun's command perhaps )

What if in WO, Sakon Shima failed to escape at Tong Gate, therefore not meeting up with Sun Ce?



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Aug 21, 08 at 10:35am
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Hey Spawn, I already asked that question about He Jin before. Thief, lol jk

I assume Sun Ce would have continued to be forcibly in service to Orochi, at least until he found some other means to revolt against Orochi or find Sun Jian.

What if Yoshihiro hadn't been ordered to aid Zhao Yun?

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Aug 21, 08 at 10:44am
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Where?

I doubt much would have changed. Probably someone else would have been sent.

What if the DW warriors thought SW warriors, were enemies? And vice versa?



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Aug 22, 08 at 2:51am
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So many wouldn't be happened. But Orochi wouldn't be defeated. That's for sure. Shu: Zhao Yun wouldn't be saved (I think Xing Cai and Zuo Ci alone couldn't save Zhao Yun). Wu: Sun Ce didn't get support from Ieyasu and Hanzo, thus some Wu officers might be prisoned forever by Orochi. Wei: Cao Pi won't get help from Mitsunari. SW: I don't think much would change.

What if KOEI doesn't exist, so we don't have any game based on Sengoku Era in Japan and Three Kingdoms Era in China? Well, I'm run out of idea...



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Aug 22, 08 at 4:52pm
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If KOEI hadn't existed, I'm pretty sure nasbro or some other gaming company would have made games along those lines. Those two eras were HUGE in their countries history. Personally, i'm waiting for them to do a samurai warriors game centered around Kiyomori and Yoshitsune minamoto's war.


What if Ieyasu and Nobunaga were never friends, but bitter rvals??



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Aug 27, 08 at 4:55am
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This maybe a hard question. Ieyasu have Tadakatsu and Hanzo. Nobunaga have Mitsuhide, but Nobunaga's army strong. Hmm, i think Nobunaga will win, and maybe Ieyasu never rule Japan.
What if doomsday come to this world?



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Aug 29, 08 at 12:54am
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Then we will never see WO2 damn I'm gettin waaay to obsessed with this game lmao. I was lookin forward to it coming out more than I was my 18th birthday

What if Zhou Yu wasn't obsessed with surpassing Zhuge Liang?

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Aug 29, 08 at 4:56am
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According to the real history, Zhou Yu never was obsessed to surpass Zhuge Liang.

But, according to the book, Zhou Yu really hated Zhuge Liang. I think if he wasn't obsessed, he would live much longer. Oh, and Shang Xiang would never marry Liu Bei. But still, I think Jing province would be stolen by that cheating Shu. And furthermore, maybe Zhou Yu will be my favorite character instead of Lu Xun

What if Ma Su didn't lose in Jie Ting?



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Aug 29, 08 at 6:55am
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Hmm well Zhuge Liang's northern campaign would have ran much more smoothly, possibly allowing him to move right up into Chang An if everything else went to plan Ma Su would also of course not have been executed, probably being promoted instead, which may be a good thing...or maybe he would've just screwed up in a even bigger fashion later on

What if Zhao Yun was female? (random but maybe interesting? )



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Aug 29, 08 at 8:30am
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Very interesting . Maybe Liu Bei would show his gratitude at Zhao Yun saving Liu Chan by creating another heir, if you know what I mean.
I think Zhao Yun would have been feared more as a woman, as there weren't many, if any, women on the battlefields in those days and a female warrior could have been intimidating.

What if Nobunaga had been kind, caring person?




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