I played the demo from brute force and its pretty cool, thing is i dont have live, and im not going to be gettin it soon. Also none of my friends will have it, so is it worth gettin? And does it have 4 players?

the single player is fun but for multiplayer it all depends if you have friends that come over all the time. I too dont have XBOX Live and the case is just collecting dust(i play Halo more for multi) other then that this game is worthy of any XBOX owner collection.

Yes this game is pretty good with out live, I don't even have live, multiplayer is pretty good as well, I suggest to any one to get this game.

i could only get 2 players and if you dont have live its a bit short and not much replay value but its good. i found phantom crash better though.

I don't have live, and I like the single player campaign. It's tough though,no doubt about that. The graphics are good, missions fun, music inspiring, and the battles are intense. Lots of destruction going on.