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May 15, 08 at 6:46am
*SPOILERS* Discussing Mana Khemia In- Depth! PART 1

*MANA KHEMIA SPOILERS AHEAD! YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED!*

I found that Mana Khemia was not bad, but it has loads of cliffhangers and things unresolved..
I finished the game once with Nikki's ending..
If u guys mind, can u guys help me answer these questions?
Oh, and pls write ur reply like this so it would be easy 4 everyone to see...

eg.
Q: 2.e)
A: __________________

And thx a lot in advanced!


1. Alchemy
a) Is it just me, or is the definition of alchemy in mk rather vague? cuz they don't discuss it in depth, and the art used should be called "chemistry" then..


2. Mana
a) What is the name of Anna's Mana? (If there is..)
b) What is the name of Pamela's Mana? (If there is..)
c) What is the name of Muppy's Mana? (If there is..)
d) What is the name of Vayne's Mana? (As in Sulpher is The Mana of______?)
e) Is the thing which fuses with Anna in her finishing burst, Centiflora X, her Mana?
f) Is the thing tht comes out of Pamela's Teddy in her finishing burst, My Gift To You, her mana?
g) Is the thing tht comes out of Muppy's pot in his finishing burst, King's Prison, his mana?
h) Can mana pact with mana in the first place? (eg, Vayne, an artificial mana with Sulpher the mana of *blank*)
i) If mana can't die, and if Sulpher is a real mana.. Why did Sulpher weaken and die anyway?
j) The mana of cold should be associatedwith ice or sumthin.. Not electricity and drills.. -_-" (Is tht rite?)
k) Any significance of Zwei Monde??? As the leader of mana or sumthin??? Cuz there r quite few mana in ur party
eg. (in your party) mana of tree, cold, light, wind
l) (Just an opinion) Don't you think we should have access to use the powers of =>
(others) azureflame mana, glowfire mana, crag mana, frost mana, cyclone mana, halo mana, blaze mana, etc..?

3. Dungeon
a) Exactly why and how is Heart's Prison made?
b) In Wind's Corridor - Abyss, exactly what is tht retaining wall at the end of the path supposed to be??? (A secret boss or just deco?)


4. Vayne
a) Who exactly is ??? in Vayne's consience? (Could tht be Theofratus? Could that be Crazed Eye)
b) Why can only Vayne and Ms. Isolde communicate wid Sulpher???
c) Why does Vayne have amnesia??? (izzit a side effect of being an artificial mana?)
d) Exactly why after defeating Crazed Eye, Vayne and Sulpher become "normal"?
e) Anyone has any idea what is "eizenkampf"? (not sure spelled rite)

5. Al - Revis
a) In the first school festival, Ms. Melanie said not to turn on the lights. And at the end of the conversation, she said "they almost found out". Exactly what was happening? (this was not explained later)
b) Are the principal and vice principal lovers/ couple/ married?


6. Theofratus
a) Exactly how did Vayne kill "dad"? How did the wish happen to kill him???
b) Heck, how does Theofratus look like!?

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May 15, 08 at 8:55am
re: *SPOILERS* Discussing Mana Khemia In- Depth! PART 1

Q:1.a)
A:I think they use alchemy cause chemistry cant actually create items frm sum ingredients...
Q:2.a)
A:If u played atelier iris series u shud b able to get all thier name but ill tell u which i can remember.If im not wrong Anna's mana is called faustus the mana of illusion and seems im talking bout anna ill juz answer 2.e)which is yea tats her mana
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2. Mana

c) I don't think Muppy has a mana, since he comes from other planet. I don't know if mana exist at that 'other planet'...

d) Sulpher isn't a mana....Vayne is. Well, if you ask Vayne is a mana of what? I don't think he belongs to any 'element' since he was 'created'. And if you ask "so why could Sulpher can change his form into anything such as sword, giant sword (Chaos Devotion) and tentacles(Eizenkampf)?" Then, the answer is, that's Vayne's power. His power to grant any wishes and he wishes Sulpher to change it's form...and it comes true. But that drains Sulpher's energy.

e) Yep, that's Faustus, the mana of Illusion.

f) Most probably...but one thing I also don't understand. If that's her mana...then, the statement that mana finished their contract when their master died is wrong?

g) I never seen Muppy's burst...sorry... >_<

h) Nope! Mana can only make a pact with living creatures (Human, animal but i don't know about plants...). Now, don't be mistaken! Vayne is the mana and Sulpher is the master. Theofratus made it that way! So Sulpher is just a normal cat.

i) Sulpher isn't a mana and so he can die...

j) Cold??? I though Flay's mana is Mana of GOLD??? Correct me if I'm wrong...it's been a while...

k) No, just a normal mana who lost it's (or their?) heart. So it act brutal and uncontrolable.

l) That could be fun...but Azureflame has made a pact with Renee, so maybe you should kill Renee first...then again, I don't think Azureflame want to make a pact with pther people (see his explaination at your encyclopedia).


3. Dungeon

a) Vayne made it unconciously...After he knew that he is a mana and he hurt Isolde (that cause other students to be scared of him and labelled him as troublemaker), he wanted to punish himself by dissapearing from real world, but deep in his heart, he loves the school, he loves his friends, so he created the place where he should be disappeared to in the school.

b) Which wall is it? Maybe it serves as place for a boss from the job.


4. Vayne
a) That's his power...much like "the other you in you". Whenever Vayne wanted to use his power (to make his wish come true), he summons ???, then ??? started to suggest Vayne to use his power (such as when Sulpher and Jess died) and Vayne is the one who triggered his power.

b) Cause Vayne is a mana so he can understand languages of other living creatures and maybe because Sulpher is his master. And for Isolde....I don't think she knew what Sulpher said.

c) No, it isn't amnesia. Vayne was created by Theofratus and to conceal Vayne's identity as a mana from Vayne himself and other people, Theofratus (or maybe Sulpher) said he got amnesia.

d) "Normal" because now Vayne is no longer a mana, at least a mana that lost it's power (??? or Crazed Eyes is Vayne's power, the power that could grant any wishes). And Sulpher...well, it's always a "normal" cat all along.

e) I don't know what it's mean...but that's German if I'm right...

5. Al - Revis
a) Don't know. Maybe she was doing autopsy or anything like that and doesn't want to students to know.

b) I don't know...


6. Theofratus

a) Theofratus felt really guilty after he done his 'surgery' on Jess...he might've healed her from her sickness, but he also took her lifespan...shortening it drastically. And he wanted to die..but I don't know why, it appears that Theofratus had near immortal body (as Isolde stated), and he created Vayne to grant him his wishes...he wanted to die...and Vayne grant him that wishes.

b) Don't know...even Vayne don't know...
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hotaru91
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May 21, 08 at 6:57am
re: *SPOILERS* Discussing Mana Khemia In- Depth! PART 1

thx a lot keira 4 the info!

but with tht said it means sulpher is the master all along huh? @_@
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I will try to answer your questions, but i'm not skilled at english language, but i'll try anyway.

Mana-Khemia is for me one of the best games that i have ever seen, and i think that is better than other PS2 titles that have more publicity.

OK let's begin......

1. Alchemy
a) Is it just me, or is the definition of alchemy in mk rather vague? cuz they don't discuss it in depth, and the art used should be called "chemistry" then...
1. a) Ans:
Alchemy in every game, even in real life is vague, because it wans't a realistic science, this science was more theory than practice, and with theory you can even be God, but that's not the reality. Anyway i think that Mana-Khemia just used what it was necessary of alchemy and that's why they didn't get too much in the theme.

2. Mana
a) What is the name of Anna's Mana? (If there is..)
b) What is the name of Pamela's Mana? (If there is..)
c) What is the name of Muppy's Mana? (If there is..)
d) What is the name of Vayne's Mana? (As in Sulpher is The Mana of______?)
e) Is the thing which fuses with Anna in her finishing burst, Centiflora X, her Mana?
f) Is the thing tht comes out of Pamela's Teddy in her finishing burst, My Gift To You, her mana?
g) Is the thing tht comes out of Muppy's pot in his finishing burst, King's Prison, his mana?
h) Can mana pact with mana in the first place? (eg, Vayne, an artificial mana with Sulpher the mana of *blank*)
i) If mana can't die, and if Sulpher is a real mana.. Why did Sulpher weaken and die anyway?
j) The mana of cold should be associatedwith ice or sumthin.. Not electricity and drills.. -_-" (Is tht rite?)
k) Any significance of Zwei Monde??? As the leader of mana or sumthin??? Cuz there r quite few mana in ur party
eg. (in your party) mana of tree, cold, light, wind
l) (Just an opinion) Don't you think we should have access to use the powers of =>
(others) azureflame mana, glowfire mana, crag mana, frost mana, cyclone mana, halo mana, blaze mana, etc..?
2. a) Ans:
Anna never reveal her Mana's name, i don't really know why, maybe because she is just a secundary character like Pamela.
2. b) Ans:
Pamela never reveal her Mana's name, and her Mana just go out of the Teddy Bear in Pamela's special attack, so it's rare to see it.
2. c) Ans:
Muppy has no Mana, he's an alien so......
2. d) Ans:
Vayne's Mana should be Sulpher but he is really a mere cat, maybe he can transform due to an experiment made by theofratus or because Vayne just wished him to transform in Vayne's Sword, but in the game's story, Vayne is the real Mana.
2. e) Ans:
Yes, That's Anna's Mana.
2. f) Ans:
Yes, That's Pamela's Mana.
2. g) Ans:
No, That's not Muppy's Mana, the thing is laike his servant or how the special move says the thing is the King's Prison, maybe Muppy has a void in his pot.
2. h) Ans:
No, They Can not, Vayne is an artificial Mana and how i said, Sulpher is a mere cat, and they really have no contract, they are just good friends, but they act like they have a contract anyway, maybe to make the people not suspect about them.
2. i) Ans:
Sulpher is a Mere Cat......
2. j) Ans:
I don't really remember that Mana, if it Flay's Mana then i don't really know, i didn't care about his Mana attribute, but i think that he really was a Dark Mana, and if it was Cold, then Maybe he just was messing around with us......
2. k) Ans:
Zwei Monde is just a Mana that growed in anger and fury in that crystal for the xperiments that were made to him, he's not a Mana Leader or Something.
2. l) Ans:
It would have been cool to use those skills but "They" are other's persons Mana so......

3. Dungeon
a) Exactly why and how is Heart's Prison made?
b) In Wind's Corridor - Abyss, exactly what is tht retaining wall at the end of the path supposed to be??? (A secret boss or just deco?)
3. a) Ans:
Heart's Prison is just how it's name says, the prison of Vayne's heart, and was made by Vayne's other self because he was try to accomplish Vayne's final Wish: To Dessapear. And That prison is suppodsedly to be Vayne's deepest heart or soul.
3. b) Ans:
Just a Decoration, I to fell for it at the first time...¬¬

4. Vayne
a) Who exactly is ??? in Vayne's consience? (Could tht be Theofratus? Could that be Crazed Eye)
b) Why can only Vayne and Ms. Isolde communicate wid Sulpher???
c) Why does Vayne have amnesia??? (izzit a side effect of being an artificial mana?)
d) Exactly why after defeating Crazed Eye, Vayne and Sulpher become "normal"?
e) Anyone has any idea what is "eizenkampf"? (not sure spelled rite)
4. a) Ans:
Vayne is an Artificial Mana, something that he's not aware of, and his conscience is a other self that himself created, bur that other self is who manages Vayne's Powers as Mana. Crazed Eyed is the representation of Vayne true Powers, thing that he never uses (a really shame).
4. b) Ans:
Vayne can talk to him because his powers as Mana, but why Isolde can is a real mistery, like in the entire game, she is a total mistery.
4. c) Ans:
He has no amnesia, he just suppressed those memories because of the horribles that they were, and in the moment that he suppressed those memories, his other self was created.
4. d) Ans:
Vayne became normal because he wished to make his powers dessapear, and that wish became a reality, and sulpher didn't became normal, he was normal, is just that this time Vayne can't understand in words what's he is saying.
4. e) Ans:
"Rosenkrantz" it's Roxis surname.

5. Al - Revis
a) In the first school festival, Ms. Melanie said not to turn on the lights. And at the end of the conversation, she said "they almost found out". Exactly what was happening? (this was not explained later)
b) Are the principal and vice principal lovers/ couple/ married?
5. a) Ans:
In that event Ms. Melanie is suppossedly an assassin, and the reason that why she said no to turn on the light's and sprayed chloroform to them is that was blood on the floor.
5. b) Ans:
I Think they are lovers but this is never revealed.

6. Theofratus
a) Exactly how did Vayne kill "dad"? How did the wish happen to kill him???
b) Heck, how does Theofratus look like!?
6. a) Ans:
How Vayne killed him is not revealed but the wish killed him anyway, is like if you wish someone's death and the person really dies somehow, you didn'd do it directly but you wished fot it to happen, in the game happened immediately in the moment that theofratus wished it, maybe he just had a heart attack or something like it.
6. b) Ans:
Theofratus appearance is never revealed, maybe he was ugly or no one's remember.
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