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Topic: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain
TurMoiL911
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Jun 01, 05 at 7:30pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

quote Oneiromancer
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Dude, buy a cat.

quote SuperSniper
I H4T3 N0085
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II RaGnaRok II
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Jun 01, 05 at 7:36pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

Cut SuperSniper some slack atleast he didn't act like that nOOb oneirmancer or whatever his name was.

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Jun 01, 05 at 7:39pm
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quote II RaGnaRok II
Cut SuperSniper some slack atleast he didn't act like that nOOb oneirmancer or whatever his name was.
Alright. I'm sorry, SuperSniper.



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Jun 01, 05 at 7:43pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

quote TurMoiL911
[quote][originator=II RaGnaRok II]Cut SuperSniper some slack atleast he didn't act like that nOOb oneirmancer or whatever his name was.
Alright. I'm sorry, SuperSniper. [/quote

lol that's the spirit

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Jun 01, 05 at 9:13pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

thanxs guys i am gettin all teaery eyed.

What are the qualifications of being a noob

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Jun 01, 05 at 9:21pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

Off the top of my mind:

1) Low post count

2) Registation date in the near past

3) Certain "n00bish" attitude (Such as creating repeat threads, spamming, and inapporiate flaming)



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Jun 01, 05 at 9:35pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

the post thing cant apply to me becuasse i just sarted my account yesterday

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Jun 02, 05 at 2:57pm
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From Frankie:

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"Other forms of cheating, betrayals, constant quitting when losing, hiding bombs, will also be treated as cheating and continue to be dealt with using the feedback system and YOU WILL BE BANNED TOO."
Hiding bombs is considered cheating. Logically speaking, if something like hiding bombs is considered cheating, then it is obvious that a more heinous glitch like superjumping would be considered cheating as well.

But let's see that cheat FAQ link:


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Q

Ok, so what exactly does that mean? If I pull a flag through a wall, is that cheating?

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In general, we don't consider game bugs to be cheats. So, for example, pulling a flag through a wall isn't cheating, a bug in the game that is exploitable by anyone. However, "dummying", as some have called it, is considered cheating as you must go above and beyond to initiate this glitch and it's not something that's readily available to anyone. So, if both teams can grab a flag via the same means, it's not nearly as bad as having inside knowledge of a process that results in creating an error in the game's networking. The variety of modem/bandwidth cheats that are taking place online are absolutely considered cheating. All of these are done with the sole intention of exploiting bugs in the game code or taking advantage of basic elements of networking in order to screw your opponents. We have different ways of identifying people who practice certain types of cheats, and depending on what it is you do, you will could be punished in a variety of ways.


So game bugs isn't cheating, good thing super jumping is far more than just a "game bug." Dummying is comparable to super jumping. You need inside knowledge to perform it, it takes practice to pull off accurately, and most people do not know about it. That is one of the key points to Frankie's message: if it is a bug as simple as pulling a flag through a wall (and the game lets you know when you can grab the flag, so it announces TO YOU that you CAN pull the flag through the wall, which is why it is NOT cheating, it is obvious to EVERYONE), it's not cheating. But super jumping, which is not something you can accidentally stumble on and is certainly not something that everyone does (I see super jumping maybe 1 / 20 games), is obviously cheating. Check out the bolded line from the question. Super jumping is something you must go above and beyond to initiate AND it's not readily available to everyone. Therefore, it IS cheating. 0wned through proof. Proof you guys tried to use against me.

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II RaGnaRok II
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Jun 02, 05 at 3:24pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

Anybody can super-jump ya dun need a special x-box to do it. and you must be a real nOOb if you only see superjumping in 1 every 20 games cuz when I play it happens all the time and I don't get annoyed over it.

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Let’s say we’re playing an assault game on foundation, our team is losing, only 1 or 2 minutes left, the other team have the bomb but they aren’t trying to score anymore. They keep the bomb in one of the rooms. We attack them and get the bomb, but as soon as they recover the bomb, they return to the same room and get cover. My point is, there aren’t trying to score, so it harder to get the bomb and get even. Is that legal?



Yes it's "legal" although probably annoying. If you can get to the bomb by straightforward means, no matter how well defended it is, then there's no cheating going on, just an irritating strategy. If they surf the bomb out of the geometry on a Banshee, or get it to somewhere the other team can't physically reach, then that's crap. It's like spawn camping. It's really, really annoying, but it can be defended against.
This is much the same as hiding the bomb

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Jun 02, 05 at 3:32pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

what they are talkin about is gettin special mods to your xbox like action replay disks

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Jun 02, 05 at 4:06pm
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quote II RaGnaRok II
This is much the same as hiding the bomb

No it's not. Hiding the bomb is placing it outside the map's geometry, or in other words, taking advantage of a glitch.

And next, no, I do not play with noobs. I play with good players, and if I see a teammate superjump, I leave the game, leave him / her cheating feedback, and remove him / her from my friends list, therefore making it so I usually never play with that person again. I'm a level 20 right now, which isn't noob at all, and will be higher once I start putting forth effort to level past 20 (right now I'm only interested in getting most of the playlists to 20). If you think the level 17 - 29 players I'm playing against are noobs, you're an idiot. Oh wait, we already knew that.

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Jun 02, 05 at 4:17pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

quote Oneiromancer
quote II RaGnaRok II
This is much the same as hiding the bomb

No it's not. Hiding the bomb is placing it outside the map's geometry, or in other words, taking advantage of a glitch.

And next, no, I do not play with noobs. I play with good players, and if I see a teammate superjump, I leave the game, leave him / her cheating feedback, and remove him / her from my friends list, therefore making it so I usually never play with that person again. I'm a level 20 right now, which isn't noob at all, and will be higher once I start putting forth effort to level past 20 (right now I'm only interested in getting most of the playlists to 20). If you think the level 17 - 29 players I'm playing against are noobs, you're an idiot. Oh wait, we already knew that.
Lvl 20 is nOOb I never play and I'm a 24 and you are psycho with this cheating thing you need to calm down

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Jun 02, 05 at 6:25pm
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Lvl 20 is noob? LMAO! I see lvl 28s that don't compare to lvl 14s. Level means nothing. By putting all this value into a stupid number, you've just shown yourself to be the noob. Wait, you've already done that many times.

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Jun 02, 05 at 6:29pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

Hate to burst your little bubble but you were putting just as much emphasis on your rank as he was.



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Jun 02, 05 at 6:33pm
re: Super jumps////Skulls on Campain

I was using it as an indicator that I'm not a noob, as to get to level 20, you have to win at least 25 games, probably more like 30 - 35, and that alone makes you not a noob, as anyone who's played more than, say, 10 games is not a noob (noob is short for newbie, which means someone new to the game, which means that people are using the word noob wrong all the time, usually due to crippling mental inadequacy).

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