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Mar 29, 09 at 7:29pm
Discussion: Class tiers

I had brought up the subject of class tiers in one of the other threads.

For people who dont know, A tier or "tier list" is a list of the characters according to who is "best" and who is "worst".Tiers do not nescesarily mean that some characters suck but it is just a discussion.



I have a party of all four classes and i feel that Lilties have no purpose and are just weakened versions of Clavats.
Selkies have great mobility and their arrows do a lot of damage. Yukes are good in parties, but in "pvp" they are very hard to use.

My tier list would be
1.Selkies
2.Clavats
3.Yukes
4.Lilties

What is your opinion on all of the classes?


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re: Discussion: Class tiers

TBH, There are two awnsers.

PvP Minigame:

Top:
Selkie
High:
Clavat
Low:
Lilty
Bottom:
Yuke


Game:

Top:
Yuke
Mid:
Clavat
Selkie
Bottom:
Lilty

PVP notes:

Lilty got booted to almost worst since it's no longer a broken stun machine. Selkie's level two Bow charge is broken (100 damage per arrow at level 99 with worst possible stats and worst equips and worst bow, 30 arrows: Overkill), Clavats are more powerful than liltys in the end. Yukes aren't good at all since they can't set up a good Spell (holy isn't that good, it's all Holyga and ultima now. and that's Cure+Raise+Cure+Raise, and ultima can't be used unless you team up two yukes), and Yukes are now dependant on magic. Besides, a certain selkie is better (there's premade characters that have things you need to do to get. the male selkie of those eight is has the best magic stat in the game. He deals more damage with holy than a yuke can with meteorga)

Game:

Yukes get enough time to lay their larger spells down. Clavats are the most powerful physically, Selkies have double jump and that crazy charge, Liltys just can't deal enough damage, and can't stun so easily no more.


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My list would be:

PvP:
  • Clavat
  • Selkie
  • Yuke
  • Lilty
Game:
  • Selkie (Double Jump skips like, half the puzzles)
  • Yuke
  • Clavat
  • Lilty


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Why is everyone placing lilty so low? I realize that they and the clavats are kind of conflicting classes in that both are primarily physical attackers, but I seriously doubt that there is no advantage to using the liltys. Since I'm not entirely familiar with clavats, anyone know how their defense compares to the lilty's?


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Lilty's are placed so lowly because their attack is on par with clavats, their defence is worse and their magic is outright terrible. They're also the least profficient with weapons, and their MP is the second worse. Their HP is their only upside. That being said, I can't see why Selkies are so high up- they have both the worst HP AND MP, and in PVP you only need to get a few hits in before they die, and so long as you can jump, it's easy enough to avoid their arrows. My list would be:

Game:
Lilty
Clavat
Yuke
Selkie

PVP:
Clavat
Selkie
Lilty
Yuke
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Selkie is so high for Game because you can double jump past most obsticles, instead of needing to actually do the puzzles. Yukes should be up there too because you need a decent amount of MP for most dungeons, and being able to cast spells like Firetaga with only one AI tag-along to make things easy is definitely a plus.

Clavat are the most 'useful' for PvP, since magic is almost useless (since it can be outrun), and Selkie/Lilty have shortcomings (Low HP/Low Damage).



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re: Discussion: Class tiers

Yeah, and I killed the final boss with three charge shots on my bow at level 99.


BTW yuke can cast Holyga and Meteor by themselfs, and Charge shot for Selkies with bows is VERY BROKEN LIKE 3000 DAMAGE.


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re: Discussion: Class tiers

quote Yoshi Freak
Yeah, and I killed the final boss with three charge shots on my bow at level 99.


BTW yuke can cast Holyga and Meteor by themselfs, and Charge shot for Selkies with bows is VERY BROKEN LIKE 3000 DAMAGE.
Thats funny XD. I heard about that. Good thing is that arrows are not very difficult to dodge.

Does anyone use selkies with paddles? I prefer the bow


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....What if they get RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!?!?



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Then you move two inches to your right, and start chopping off an arm?



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Then you move two inches to your right, and start chopping off an arm?


Lol yeah. Do you guys ever use paddles for selkies? I think its hard because of their low defence.


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Not sure why you'd bother with the broken-ness of Bow Charge



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re: Discussion: Class tiers

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Not sure why you'd bother with the broken-ness of Bow Charge


Yeah true. But right now my selkie is a lv 27 and his paddle charge can do up to 600 damage.


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Get it to like 70, bow charge, OMG TOO MUCH BLOOD n' GUTS.


BTW When I say "In your face" I mean start charging, wait for them to approach, run to their face and FIRE AWAY AND SLAUGHTER MWAHHAHAHAH! *shot*


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re: Discussion: Class tiers

For those of you dissing Yukes in PvP, I totally rocked a Meteor spell for a OHKO on a higher level Selkie. Or maybe a Clavat? Can't remember, but it was wonderful.

But yeah, he learned to move around after that.

By the way, Yukes can lock four rings at level 95, thus stacking 5 spells to cast Ultima if needed.
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