I think this has been the one major bone of contention for the game which has been vehemently expressed across the net and it certainly has been a point of intent dislike for me.

Why did they decide to go MMO instead of following up with a third RPG? I could understand the problems with making it match previous storylines but there are ways around that, and they still have to deal with those issues by making an MMO.

And the MMO market is already flushed with games to a ridiculous degree. Who wants to see this game come out as an MMO when just about every other game is? This also limits out the consoles to some degree, and most people will want to use a PC to play this game.

Plus, I feel MMOs do not have the same feeling of immersion that you get from playing RPGs.

In any case, thoughts or opinions!

To be honest dude, I don't see a huge MMORPG market. I mean, I know it's there. I know there are plenty of MMOs out there, but the only one with a massive amount of players is WoW. Otherwise, I can't think of any huge MMOs that are popular. I'm a casual PC gamer though, so I'm not the best judge. When I see MMOs, I see a bunch with a small cult following that barely keeps the game afloat and then a massive WoW fanbase. That kind of formula leads me to believe a Kotor MMO can work with star wars fans in general looking for a new MMO or Kotor fans.

As far as Kotor making the switch, yeah. It was shocking. But BioWare had mentioned for a long time now their desire to make a MMO, and I guess they decided that Kotor was the universe they wanted to use. They probably didn't want to ditch the franchise due to how popular it was and just decided to kill two birds with one stone.

MMOs definitely lack immersion, but in my opinion, that's just because there hasn't been a BioWare MMO. If anybody can pull it off, I've got the feeling it'll be BioWare. I don't think this'll be some generic MMO where all I want to do is grind to the next level by doing some lame ass fetch a scroll quest. I legitimately see them pulling off some great quests. If the basic way of interacting with NPCs remains the same, this game can be exactly the same as a single player versions - only it's possible to do the quests with multiple people, which sounds like a blast to me.

My main worry though will be some of the great interactions you can have mid-quest like in the single player games. I'm talking about you're inside an enemy base and a waitress runs up to you and pleads for her life, and your response is: "looks like your order is up." In a MMO, I don't know how they can pull it off. Who will be the one to trigger those events? Does everyone pause to view it? Are some quests going to be only soloable so it can be done? One of my favorite parts about BioWare games are the character interactions, and yeah, it could be tough with a MMO. That's possibly the biggest immersion killer - turning some fantastic quests in Kotor that involve talking into boring generic 'just clear the base' grinds. I'm hoping they'll find a way.


I'm all for the switch to MMO. I wasn't into WoW and my MMO of choice for four years has become unbearably boring; I've been desperate for a new MMO and I'm sure this'll be exactly what I need. I say this as a MMO fan who tends to solo in them a lot too - I'm not looking for a massive change to gameplay to force this game into a MMO. I honestly don't think they'll need to sacrifice much from the singe player aspects of Kotor games.

quote Kinganubis2

You talk about how WoW is the only big MMO out there right now, and that it has millions of players and it's awesome and great and blah blah blah...

wut?

I just said it was the only MMO I knew of with a large fanbase. That was it. I even ended the post saying I couldn't get in to WoW at all.

Eeeyeah.

After reading Kinganubis2's information thread I'm pretty excited because it really allows so many different storylines for the game, and that's a reason they went MMO. It looks like you'll be able to fight out the war on one side whilst also vying for power on that side, plus many back stories. So many different possibilities.

I think the reason KotOR went MMO was because of the disappointment with Galaxies. Bioware surely figured they could pull Star Wars fans in hoping for a better game, ever since Galaxies turned to a POS.

Part of me would really like a KOTOR 3 but it looks like that won't happen now.

I enjoyed Galaxies, back when it was good, and I'm hoping that TOR can fill that void.

There are a lot of WoW players but we need a game that can rival WoW now. It's not impossible to do.

man kotor was my fav game of all timend for them to take it from me by slapping me in the face saying mmo i have always been a console gamer i know dick about computers and hate them for freezing all the time and lots of lag this is a bad bad day for me



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they should make it like fable 2

God I hope not!

Just started playing through KOTOR again and remembered why I love these games so much.

If they can make TOR feel like KOTOR then I'll be happy. As will, I think, a lot of old Galaxies players. The Star Wars franchise deserves a good MMO.

Dystopia, I said the market was flushed, which meant that there was a lot of MMOs out on the market, not that they were in particular very popular or successful -- there's just a lot of MMOs being created out there to try and get a chunk of what WoW did.