If you dont want kill cam, play hardcore mode. This would be a waste of a perk in my opinion. As mentioned before a good sniper will move, and if your running and gunning it doesnt really make a difference.

KillCam is one of the greatest additions to a game I've ever seen: it limits camping but does not stop it and actually shows it again so you can improve on what you've done.

quote 20PeSTaR09

It depends really. If a load of camping whores use it then it would completely end up killing the game. However it would be good for the silent runner and gunner

^MyKarvey

Why would a runner and gunner need it?

I am not sure what you guys are smoking, but Kill cam doesn`t stop camping or snipers from staying in one spot and still kicking ass.

I play solely core matches always with kill cam on. I have gone on many 10 15 20 25 kill sprees from the exact spot without moving much at all using Snipers, Assualt, even LMGs.

Like someone said, tricking people with the kill cam is easy enough. Also, if you are sniping you know they see your kill cam, therefore you find a place where you can watch all angles and force the players to come at your from different sides that they think you are not watching. You then kill them, rinse repeat rinse repeat till you run out of ammo with your bandoleer perk.

Also, I think I already said this, but people are gullible, kill someone once with a sniper and they will try to hunt you down all game following the same path, doing the same thing. If players were smart I don`t think sniping in one spot would be nearly as easy, but in the vast majority of games, the vast majority of the players have less than a clue of what is going on. (At least on the 360 a year ago the players were like this, if they are not know, call me out on it.)

quote xVasilijex

I am not sure what you guys are smoking, but Kill cam doesn`t stop camping or snipers from staying in one spot and still kicking ass.

It's more to do with the people you're playing against really. If you get a team of opponent who are switched on, they'll see they're getting camped by someone who's never moving. I know if I see someone sitting still in a corner when they kill me, I tell my team mates where he was.

The thing about this is, I don't think it has any practical uses other than helping campers out with what they're doing. And while we're all correct in saying that the KillCam doesn't stop camping, but I don't see that as a justifiable reason to take it away, which would actually encourage camping.

If you're running and gunning, KillCam isn't an issue, in fact, I quite like watching it so I can complain about how I just died and how bullshit it was/how that grenade never went near me or how the sniper shot over my shoulder and somehow got a headshot.

I only watch the kill cam when i am suprised by a kill (like a grenade hitting my character right in the face. most of the time i can work out where i am getting shot from (the big red mark and the side of the screen) and campers normally get taken down lots anyway because when they die and respawn they go back to the same spot and try again by which time everyone knows where they are going to be.

I agree with what you are saying Shane.

I just feel that laying with a sniper in the open and going on a 20 kill streak is not camping. I consider camping some one who stays in a corner and waits for people to run by.

When I have killed every player on the other team 3 times and still am in the same spot, I really don´t feel that this is camping, more that I am playing smart and found a good place to snipe from, or use any weapon from.

I agree as long as you are not in an annoying place, and you are actually a half decent sniper staying in the same spot for a while is no problem, its when people hide in a corner and wait for the of chance that someone runs by and uses a 50cal from about 2 ft away tha i have a problem. but like i said, the way you can tell the difference is that campers dont tend to last very long, where as snipers do.

quote Redwolf 1224

I don't really like the idea of it. For hardcore players it would just make it so there's one less perk to choose from because there's no kill cam in HC in the first place.

Hmm, another perk idea is to actually have a Killcam in Hardcore games...

That's sort of a bad perk idea, but I think it's no less useless than the Eavesdrop perk.

I find no advantage in hearing the 12 year old kids on both teams scream nonsense. I think Eavesdrop is the worst perk out of all of them.

quote Mazda

I agree as long as you are not in an annoying place, and you are actually a half decent sniper staying in the same spot for a while is no problem, its when people hide in a corner and wait for the of chance that someone runs by and uses a 50cal from about 2 ft away tha i have a problem. but like i said, the way you can tell the difference is that campers dont tend to last very long, where as snipers do.

Who on earth games with a Barret? It's not a close range weapon at ALL.

quote Onvacation

quote Mazda

I agree as long as you are not in an annoying place, and you are actually a half decent sniper staying in the same spot for a while is no problem, its when people hide in a corner and wait for the of chance that someone runs by and uses a 50cal from about 2 ft away tha i have a problem. but like i said, the way you can tell the difference is that campers dont tend to last very long, where as snipers do.

Who on earth games with a Barret? It's not a close range weapon at ALL.

It's actually not extremely inaccurate at close range without zooming. I've used Sniper Rifles at close range countless times. A Barret 50. Cal at such close range is pretty accurate and it's an extremely powerful weapon to boot, so it's actually not a bad tactic.

maybe it should be something you activate with a cool down period. Snipers would still be able to keep there hiding spot, but would be able to just mow people down because the kill cam jammer would need to recharge.

quote hellspawn518

maybe it should be something you activate with a cool down period. Snipers would still be able to keep there hiding spot, but would be able to just mow people down because the kill cam jammer would need to recharge.

I like your idea. Only thing is that I still don`t feel that this perk would be over powered that it would need to be played with and fine tuned in any way. Compared to SP and Jugg and 3x frag I don`t see how having no kill cam would be any more powerful. I wouldn`t use it, but I think just as is it would work fine.