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WereJackal
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Jul 19, 09 at 2:34am
Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

lets discuss auto, racial and passive skill here. since the 3 is similar, they r all passive not an active skill, we can combine them all here.

my favourite auto skill for the leader is barrier and wall. theyre so nice. in every battle they get used all the time. theres always some dmg that gets reflected.

for racial skill, chaos wave and evil wave is useful. u cant get an extra turn, but the enemy cant counter u if they dont have chaos wave or evil wave.

so whats your favourite one? which skill do u hate? whats a must use skill in ur team? which passive skill u would never use? u can comment and discuss anything bout auto/racial/passive skill here


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Jul 19, 09 at 11:13pm
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

Really, the only Passive skill I use is Magic Ying (All Mp cost .5) Since magic is the basis of all my party's, its the most important. The next one I use is Blitzkrieg, for my party which can restore MP at the end of battle.

The Skills for each of my teams boils down to these...
Team One)Protagonist:Magic Yin. Asura:Awakening. Metatron:Blood Wine.
Team Two)Midori:Blitzkrieg. Loki:Tyranny. Shiva:Awakening

Both are set up for powerful magic casting, with Team Two slightly more powerful, since they can easily regain MP. Through Loki's Tyranny. And Team One could use the Blood Wine to restore their MP, and during the first turn use Prayer at only 27MP. And of course, everyone but Midori is set with Holy Dance.

And for me, the least likely to use is the Auto Recarm. Since.... Who's going to die? The only one who can defeat me is Lucifer, and Megidoladyne rapes each and every one of my characters. So his death dealing is indiscriminate.
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Jul 20, 09 at 1:11am
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

yeh i never use autorecarm too. seems to be a waste of space. but i thought grace was nice, even tho i never actually try using it. amane used it in one of the battle and she was tough because of it. u have to kill the leader in 1 battle or their hp will be full again when u try to engage in battle again. so couple this with high hp and maybe a high hp demon with guard, ure set to be a tanker.


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Jul 20, 09 at 5:22am
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

A simple Mediarahan or Prayer would suffice for me. There are such better ways to put that slot to use in my mind. But it could prove to be a pain, if I didn't now have 2 demons at lv.99 and two more above lv.90. Nothing in the normal story can escape my wrath.

I could have sworn though, that once I was dealing with a Shomonkai member who had one Auto skill. Somehow it blocked all magic on my end. And all I could use was normal attacks. Even with full MP, and Hp for that fact. Has that happened to you?
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Jul 20, 09 at 6:32am
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

yes thats barrier, thats the auto skill i mentioned in the first post. barrier deflect magic and wall deflect physical. but only once, the second time u do it, it will go through.

mediarahan and prayer can be used if u get a chance to use it. think of it like this: enemy A dmg u for 1/3 hp then next turn, enemy B come to u and hit u for 1/3 hp. after that enemy C turn comes and they kill u before u can use mediarahan. with grace, enemy A dmg u for 1/3 hp. then when enemy B tried to atk u, grace will get activated before B can dmg u. after B dmg u, C will try to atk which activate grace again.

i know that situation is unlikely lol. the enemies in this game is too far apart to do something like that. but its just an example to show my point.


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Jul 21, 09 at 7:00pm
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

i'm still only on day 2, and at level 21 so i don't have a whole lot of skills yet..
the most useful i've seen so far are:
evil wave (it's nice to attack without getting hit)
double-up (works great when combined with evil wave)
flight (this is much better than phantasm)
blood wine (for my magic users)
awakening (again, for my magic users)

sacrifice was kind of cool...but it's always hard to make sure the character that has it makes the killing blow...

i'm sure i'll find cooler skills once i level up more...



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Jul 22, 09 at 2:41am
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

so why did u say flight is better than phantasm? i didnt notice the difference. do they add different move range or something?



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re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

Flight does add +1 move, while Phantasm doesn't.


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Just wondering, what do you guys think is the best skillset for a magic-based demon?

I think that Holy Dance and Drain are a must. But I'm torn for the last slot - between Megidolaon and Samarecarm.

Thoughts?

What about passives? I'm working towards fighting Lucifer. Just unlocked Metatron who has Victory Cry. I'm thinking of putting it on every demon that has 3 empty passive slot. Repel Elec/Phys are helpful against Lucifer too, I heard.

But what about in general? What do you guys think are the best passives for magic-based demons?


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Jul 26, 09 at 7:18am
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

yeh holy dance is nice, because no one is resist to it. megidolaon requires a bit too much MP for me, so i dont really like it. i usually have one of the elemental attack combine with that particular element rise for the passive. say i have agidyne as one of the attack, i would have fire rise and fire jump for the passive.

samarecharm is a must for me, cause i dont use any spare demons. so i have to revive any dead demon in the middle of a battle. the way i organize my party is i put 1 demon that have samarecharm for each leader. so 4 demons with samarecharm, 1 in each leader. it works beautifully

repel is good, but sometimes the enemy can drain the repelled dmg. so i think drain/null would be better than repel.


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Aug 01, 09 at 10:55pm
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

I always keep at least one person with a Megidolaon, since that would wipe the floor with any normal demon. And each demon I have comes with Holy Dance, I make sure of it.

But, outside of the battle with Lucifer. My only concern is a Null Mystic. Once that happens, there are no status effects. (Bessides Belzabouls Spawn) And judgment is useless. Plus, in the fight with Babel, his Kings Gate attack is nulled. It just makes things a lot easier, and with a high Mp, normal spells do minuscule Dmg compared to your HP.

And yea, The Samecarham spell is in at least all my Partys. The only issue is getting Demons strong enough to last in a fight with someone. My levels are in a very drastic slope. (99-89-50-40) So, only two party's are effective in battle. Others are used to collect NPC characters on the field, or to cross teleport the stronger characters to the boss. (Like Belberith, I dont bother with platforms.)
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Aug 04, 09 at 8:57pm
re: Auto, Racial, Passive Skill Discussion

Wall is a very nice Auto skill especially for the team that doesn't have Phys Repel skills. Magic Yang + Blitzkrieg are also very nice. In regards to Lucifer Elec Repel and Barrier will hurt you way more than help since he will take advantage and bounce elec attacks off you to heal him. Victory cry is the greatest of all skills imo as it restores a high percentage of HP and MP at the end of each fight. For Lucifer Ban Elec is a good skill to have. Also I made my Metatron completely immune to everything except Holy, he reflects phys and mystic attacks and everything else is Null. At lvl 99 even big bad Lucifer had a hard time trying to kill off my Metatron
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