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Apr 02, 09 at 6:23am
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Thought it was the fans of the film that d/l'd it...

Well I watched it. The music is fine. Really what seems to be missing is just the finished CGI and supposed reshoots. But after watching the film, it did seem a bit rushed in some parts. It runs about 1:40:00 without credits.




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Apr 02, 09 at 8:13am
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To be completely honest, i don't really care that they're *bleep*ing up the story, because let's be honest, the entire X-Men series has not been very accurate to the original medium. I mean, i don't see any of you bitching about Gambit being in the film, even though he has never had anything what so ever to do with Weapon X.

And really, a lone Deadpool movie would just be kind of lame. Deadpool's an alright character, but he doesn't even begin to stack up against the likes of other heroes. i read his comics, and really he's not that interesting compared to so many others. He's good for a laugh, and very little else.


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We're not saying much of anything now because we've already said our peace on his appearance when it was first announced. Way to join the discussion 10 months too late. Despite what you interpret as a lame character, there are still fans of Deadpool who wish to see the character justifiably brought to the big screen. Ryan Reynolds and a solo Deadpool movie have been rumored for most of this decade. Don't see how a solo Deadpool movie couldn't work; wise-cracking mercenary that pretty much has fought and hunted everyone at some point. Maybe not even a solo film per se but more so like this where it incorporated a bunch of mutants/super-heroes. A collaboration. Have him fight/team up with them all.

Don't want to officially review it, because that isn't fair to the film, but as ctrl, I too saw the leak. The leak consisting of unfinished CGI, stunt wires, out of place music... I didn't watch it for that, I wanted to see what the story was like. As a person who pretty much hated all three of the X-men films, I just want to say to those who were worried over this film, overall I liked the direction of this. There were problems, sure, but it was way better than the X-men trilogy. I'll watch it when it comes out to theater to see what scenes they added (hopefully to better it in some areas) as well as to see the completed shots of most of the action scenes/ending. Hoping the re-shoots are true that more Wade Wilson/Deadpool scenes were added in because the few scenes that he appeared in weren't enough. Weapon XI doesn't count.


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Yeah I heard over the radio that it was leaked as an unfinished film piece. I did some searching and found it, but ended up not watching the film as I didn't want to ruin it...only a few more weeks until the film comes out, anyway.


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Apr 02, 09 at 6:07pm
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An extra 23 minutes could fix it up nicely, hopefully. Not perfect, but no the Punisher films. That's a plus. :3



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Apr 03, 09 at 3:41am
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Yeah TLA, don't get me wrong, i like Deadpool just fine. But compared to other heroes, he's relatively uninteresting and unimportant. Deadpool isn't really great for his stories, he's good for a laugh, and that's about it. His comics are decent, even now his current run in with the T-Bolts is pretty neat, but it's not really movie worthy. I don't know, as a long time comic fan, it just kind of irks me how so many of you would rather have an unintersting action flick with wisecrack lines and little depth, over an Ant-Man movie or a Submariner movie (which no one but me seems really all that excited about, but yes they are confirmed for production.), when in reality characters like Pym and Namor are infinitely more interesting and more important than Deadpool.

A deadpool movie would just amount to just another action flick, just it would bear the Marvel logo.


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Apr 03, 09 at 5:01am
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I dl'd it just to see what a half finished movie looked like and honestly they're just really pushing that so people don't watch it. It was *bleep*ing awesome to be honest, and I will go see it in the theaters.


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(Video posted for anyone that hasn't seen the way Deadpool is in the comics)


I find the comics to be rather good. They've got an interesting spin on everything and look at the Marvel universe with a more comical, yet equally gritty look. True, they're not as interesting as some of the other comics, but they do move along faster than some of the more well known comics, like Iron Man or Spiderman. Iron Man's a loved movie, but if you've ever read the comics, they're pretty dull, a fact that was honestly transferred onto the big screen. Yet that was a blockbuster because it looked good, had a well known actor as the lead, and had some good jokes. Yet the movie itself had about 8 minutes of actual super-heroism. Deadpool, on the other hand, would have a considerably more actionny film that would easily stand out, considering how careless he is in combat, and how much more of a witty character he is than most action film stars. Most action films, the main character manages to kill off an entire army. A Deadpool action film, Deadpool would have been killed more times than that entire army.


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Apr 03, 09 at 6:44am
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Woah, Woah, Woah. The Iron Man comics are anything but dull. He's easily one of the most explored and interesting characters in the Marvel Universe. In fact, right now he's at the lowest point he's ever reached, since his time in the wheel chair battling alcoholism. He's the worlds most wanted criminal, and is in direct opposition of Norman Osbourne after he made it impossible for Norman Osbourne to access the Super Hero Registration database illegally. Planting a virus in the file on his last day at the head of SHIELD (yes, Stark was the director of SHIELD), so that if Normie tried to access it illegally, it would delete it all. Uploading the virus to his own mind, that will eventually destroy his entire mind, he's on the run from the American government while his health is slowly deteriorating and his company has been completely destroyed. No friends by his side, he's one man fighting the world. He just went toe to toe with Namor of the Cabal. (The Cabal is like an evil Illuminati).

The only reason the Iron Man film didn't have much action, is because it was mostly about character development. Just like every first hero film in a franchise usually is. Considering he's guaranteed at least one more movie, and the Avengers film, it makes sense that they are saving the good heroism action sequences for after the character has been pretty much developed.

Shellhead is one of Marvel's most iconic characters, iconic characters are not dull.

Stark is far from dull, he's a far more interesting character than a blatant Wolverine/lady deathstrike rip-off that has a hint of Spider-Man thrown into the mix.

Also, Deadpool is far from careless. He's actually quite tactile and calculating, despite his crazy demeanor. It's actually being shown quite well in his current arc against the Thunderbolts.

If you're going to make claims about comics, at least know what you're talking about. Again, a Deadpool movie would amount to nothing more than another corny action film. Just go watch an old Steven Segal movie if you want something in the same vein.

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Apr 03, 09 at 12:44pm
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Byzantine is just sore because whenever Tony Stark drops a joke, he comes off as a smug ass. He just doesn't have the finesse that Deadpool has with delivery.

And just as Batman: The Animated Series was able to boost Poison Ivy's and Harlequin's(actually created) career, then a stand-alone movie could actually open doors for the Deadpool franchise. Don't sell a character short just because they don't match your taste in qualities. I mean if you can think about it, no matter how in-depth the Iron Man franchise was, it still came down to Tony Stark fighting for his patents.

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Apr 04, 09 at 11:25am
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Byz, why are making assumptions again. Why is no one raving about Hank Pym and Namor at the moment and instead focusing on Deadpool? Could it possibly be those projects have been in "development" for, oh, say.. 4-5 + years each with little to no updates in a long time and Wilson is about to make his debut in Wolverine, thus leading many to speculate his feature film will eventually happen? I don't know, seems a little fishy to me his discussion is generating so much hype at the moment. Badass action, some one-liners thrown in, drama with being terminally ill, weapon x program, scarring, 4th wall breaking, becoming the anti-hero people have grown fond of and why Marvel KEEPS involving him with their big scale crossovers... I don't know, again call me crazy but that sounds like a good way to spend a couple of hours.

I mean how petty do you want to go with this? Comparing a Deadpool flick to a Steven Segal movie? Okay... what if all the Tony Stark haters had that mentality and said "If I want to watch a man in a metal suit fight crime, I'll go watch Robocop" instead of supporting the film. See how stupid that sounds? Is that what it's come to, you're just a tad bitter that your favorite characters haven't been adapted to the big screen and you're sick of watching these "lesser" super-heroes getting the recognition, lesser being nothing based on fact or merit, but on your personal opinion on the character?

Namor would be epic, I honestly thought we'd have it by now when Chris Columbus was attached to helm before dropping out and being replaced with Jonathan Mostow, but who knows where the status is currently at on that film. But Ant-Man.. the guy's a dick. That's all I'm going to say; never was much of a fan and always thought they should have killed him off for good. Though that's not to say I wouldn't go see it if one was made, but an Ant-Man movie just isn't appealing to me at this time, much the same way a Deadpool film is to you.

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Anyways, this coverage at AICN is becoming humorous. Roger Friedman, a writer for FOX's own Fox 411 on Foxnews.com, admittedly stole and (get this) reviewed the film. Despite giving praises in his review ( "It’s miles easier to understand than The Dark Knight, and tremendously more emotional".. though as one Talkbacker so eloquently put it "Easier to Understand then DK = Made for Morons. Tremendously more emotional = better turn off your brain or you'll pissed off. This movie is a shitbomb waiting to happen and we all know it. Nice try Fox.") it was taken down from FoxNews.com - and a statement from FOX was released shortly thereafter. I keep checking back to see if the guy will get fired and he probably should, otherwise FOX is just condoning piracy.

This piece, buried in a typical rambling accustomed in most AICN articles, caught my attention:
    Now - I've been talking to John Palermo, one of the producers on the film - ever since this story broke. The word I've gotten is that the print you can see online is several months old - and is in fact the version of the film that drove FOX to spend untold millions on a couple of weeks of additional shoots. That things have been edited out and that even with that - the film now runs 20 minutes longer than that which you see online. That there was stuff they didn't like and they took aggressive and costly steps to correct that.
PLEASE - For the love of God, fix that ending. Ryan Reynolds recently was quoted in an interview stating he never really came back for "new" scenes. That all his scenes he filmed in the reshoot were already in the script but due to timing with two other film projects, he never was able to finish those scenes. Hmm.. nice try AICN reporting on FOX's behalf. Reap what you sow FOX. You tried sabotaging Watchmen, now watch as your big summer release gets the same treatment, ten fold. I know we're stuck with the shitty Deadpool you gave us. At least Wade Wilson was cool for the brief minute he was in, but turning Deadpool into a Weapon XI version of Baraka ultimately will bring this movie down. So much more buzz would generate had you done Deadpool right, but alas, I highly doubt that is the case here. I'll be proven wrong or proven to be right on May 1st.


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Apr 04, 09 at 1:36pm
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I dl'd it just to see what a half finished movie looked like and honestly they're just really pushing that so people don't watch it. It was *bleep*ing awesome to be honest, and I will go see it in the theaters.

Agreed, this movie kicks ass and I will be seeing it again, might have been a tiny bit shorter then I hoped but brilliant nonetheless.
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Look, a Deadpool filmed exclusive by Marvel would get my support. the thing is, that the license to that character in a film adaption, is already in the hands of another company. Look how badly the X-Men films, the Daredevil film, and the original Hulk film were *bleep*ed up? Do you really think they would do an honest adaption to Deadpool? Obviously, hoping for such would be naive. You don't understand me, i like Deadpool, i get every issue. I just know that a film adaption of the character, especially done by anyone but Marvel, would amount to nothing more than another shit fest action flick. On the other hand, the Ant-Man film and Submariner films are both being made exclusively by Marvel, just like the last Hulk and Iron Man films. The thing is, no one likes Ant-Man, because no one in this forum likely knows a damn thing about the character, with the exception of you TLA. He's easily more tragic than characters like Spider-Man. You want to talk Anti-Hero? Hank Pym is easily the most unappreciated Avenger there has ever been. He's single handedly held that team together, and everyone looks past it, like it doesn't matter. He's lost his health, his family, his fortune, and his standing in the public all because he chooses to be a hero.

He isn't like your anti-heroes that bitch because they've lost everything and now they seek vengeance. No, he's far more tragic because it's being a hero that's lost it all for him. Really, i have trouble understanding why anyone wouldn't like him. Sure, his powers are kinda old school and lame, but who cares?

We both agree that a Namor film would own ass, especially if it ties into the Cap film.

If a Deadpool movie could be done, exclusively by Marvel, i'd have high hopes for it. the thing is, we already know the license is not in their hands, and the movie would amount to nothing more than a Segal flick.

Ctrl, just because that's whats been done in the only Shellhead film to date, does not mean that every villain he fights is just an Iron Man knock off. Like i said, this month he went toe to toe with Namor, and it was epic.


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Apr 05, 09 at 3:53am
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Saw the leaked unfinished version and I really liked it. Though, I think that the weakest part of the entire movie was the whole "Weapon XI" shit. It really killed the mood of the movie, but I guess I saw it as a necessary part seen as they needed a powerful villain for Wolverine to fight against since he would've easily beaten Sabretooth.

Also, did you guys notice that half of the score was really similar to Transformers? I hope some of you caught that because it killed the movie for me. I'm such a Transformers fan that I recognize the music for the movie. So, when I heard it on this one, it entirely killed the mood for it since it didn't quite fit.

I know I'm sort of criticizing on an unfinished version of the movie, but I wanted to give my two cents for everyone to know what it's about.

Oh, and this movie is definitely better than the other three. It's worth the watch.


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