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Topic: Unmaxed Enemy Stats
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Nov 24, 06 at 6:23pm
Unmaxed Enemy Stats

Why do level 20/20 special classed enemies have unmaxed stats? Nergal didn't max everything, FD didn't, DK, Ashnard, BK, and Lyon. I'm just wondering why. Athos didn't because you could use items to max him.



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Nov 24, 06 at 6:46pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

Because their stat caps are total pwn.

IIRC, Lyon caps his Mag and Res or comes close; either way, it's deadly, since they're both 30 caps. Nergal hs extreme Mag as well, only his Res is worse and he has Aureola to cope with.

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Nov 24, 06 at 6:55pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

I see what you mean, but if they don't reach the caps, why have them so high? Why not make the stats they have the caps?



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Nov 24, 06 at 7:07pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

Lyon's case should be fairly obvious if you've beaten FE8, but I have no idea as to the rest.

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Nov 24, 06 at 7:11pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

Lyon is unmaxed cuz you can use him, and so is ash and BK. But why not max them for story mode?



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Nov 24, 06 at 7:25pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

Well, BK was a General, a playable class... and high caps are rather intimidating, even if they can't fill them. Mabey they're there for all those AR users...



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Nov 24, 06 at 8:00pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

but if someone has a 30 cap for str, but inreality they have 20str, you don't care about the cap. Only what you are facing. It's more intimidating when you face a unit that is maxed out.



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Nov 25, 06 at 12:35am
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

You care so much? Get a ROM, an Editor and cap those stats. I know where you can find both. And a text parser.



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re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

quote Blaster Sarge
Well, BK was a General, a playable class... and high caps are rather intimidating, even if they can't fill them. Mabey they're there for all those AR users...
They may be too powerful if filled

also a bit off topic: the black knight was programmed to use lance, he also has a sprite for lances completely different swords, not to mention his lance has its own sprite (looks like Exaccus firm FE6) which brings the question was he made as a playable character in trail maps and then simply cut out?



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Nov 25, 06 at 7:12am
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

quote TemplarSimon
Because their stat caps are total pwn.

IIRC, Lyon caps his Mag and Res or comes close; either way, it's deadly, since they're both 30 caps. Nergal hs extreme Mag as well, only his Res is worse and he has Aureola to cope with.
At 20*, Lyon is 5 points off his Magic cap and 7.7 points off his Res cap.

In FE8, Lyon's crap unless you max out his caps. And since you can't use him in LA, I see no actual point for it. >_>
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And be glad the Fire Dragon didn't get maxed stats.

Check out his stats~
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Boss        HP   Mgc    Skl    Spd  Def    Res    Luk  Con
Fire Dragon 127  30+10  30+10  30   30+20  30+20  30   25


And his battle data:
HP - 127
POW - 50 Dmg (Negate Def)
Hit - 195
Eva - 90

20/20 Maxed support Hector does 17 Damage/58 Hit/0 Crt and takes 50 Dmg x2/100 Hit.
20/20 Maxed support Eliwood does 11 Damage/70 Hit/0 Crt and takes 50 Dmg x2/100 Hit.
20/20 Maxed support Lyn does 4 Damage/100 Hit/39 Crt and takes 50 Dmg/100 Hit.

All your lords are screwed if they go up against that.

Athos isn't much better.
With Forblaze, he deals 2 Dmg/55 Hit/0 Crt and takes 50 Dmg/100 Hit.
With Aureola, he deals 8 Dmg/60 Hit/0 Crt and takes 50 Dmg/100 Hit.
With Luna, he deals 30 Dmg/65 Hit/2 Crt and takes 50 Dmg/100 Hit.

Everyone is screwed against this maxed out Final Boss.

Caps are awesome, practicality of maxing those caps are not.

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Nov 25, 06 at 8:58am
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

I see your point. But for the custom classed enemies, why give them caps they can't max? Why not make the stats they have the caps?



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re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

quote Omega Hunter 24
Why do level 20/20 special classed enemies have unmaxed stats? Nergal didn't max everything, FD didn't, DK, Ashnard, BK, and Lyon. I'm just wondering why. Athos didn't because you could use items to max him.
Ash maxes strength at 40

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re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

quote Omega Hunter 24
I see your point. But for the custom classed enemies, why give them caps they can't max? Why not make the stats they have the caps?
Well, Fire Dragon had 30 for all caps (save HP and Con) so maybe the programmers were lazy?

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Nov 26, 06 at 12:46pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

maybe. I don't know. It just seems dumb to give a unit a 30 cap but give them 25. Why not make the 25 the cap?



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Nov 26, 06 at 5:36pm
re: Unmaxed Enemy Stats

quote Omega Hunter 24
maybe. I don't know. It just seems dumb to give a unit a 30 cap but give them 25. Why not make the 25 the cap?
*shrug* HHM bonuses, maybe?

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