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Erk The Mage Micaiah for the last spot on Brawl!!! Still Seekin' total posts: 3546 since: Jan 2007	Apr 29, 07 at 5:00pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	Doing it without Priscilla will make it even more so. ------------------- Credit to My Apocalypse. Go Micaiah!!!
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GhostMember Jacket! :3 Hooked on Neo wiki staff fireemblem total posts: 4350 since: Oct 2006	Apr 29, 07 at 11:39pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Carnivorous Sheep And abusing staves is even more expensive than Dark Magic, I don't see your point. Dark Magic is still invaluable. Making the run without Canas will make things a lot harder on yourself. You don't need to abuse Staves to train Priscilla. Each Heal staff gives her 3 Levels. And therefore, she needs 6 Staves to reach 20/- which means the amount of money needed is 3,600 G. 4 Flux tomes is worth 3,600G. And it is not even gauranteed that he'll reach 20/- with 4 tomes. Therefore, it's cheaper to train Priscilla to 20/-. And name me 5 situations that definately requires Dark Magic if it's that invaluable. If you can find 5 situations where people whom I ranked above him cannot take of it, I'll concede and bump him higher.
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Jookie Dickgirl-to-be ultra seeker total posts: 1312 since: Jul 2006	May 03, 07 at 3:18pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	I feel like I'm crazy or something. I HATE CANAS. I have yet to get a good Canas. His only use is Luna, because it's horrendously broken. Of course, I only really need high damage on Nergal and the Dragon, but that's where the legendary weapons come in. Or Athos. The only Axe user I use is Hector. Raven doesn't count. All of the Warriors are wastes. Florina is one of the most useful units I have. I can give her a strong weapon and let her kill lots of stuff, or an Iron Sword and let her weaken everything. I do agree that she's difficult to raise, but I find she's worth it. Kind of like the opposite of Marcus, where he's good for a meat shield and that's it. ------------------- quote The Deathwind MY VAGINA IS COMPLETE FEAR ME MORTALS
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Carnivorous Sheep 白人不懂 true seeker total posts: 1055 since: Jul 2006	May 03, 07 at 3:25pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Jookie I have yet to get a good Canas. His Personal experience means nothing. ------------------- quote Grampa Simpson Make me proud!...Or at least less ashamed!
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Eliwood the Slayer Neolithic total posts: 6646 since: Jul 2006	May 03, 07 at 4:23pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	If I'm too late to answer, too bad. quote GhostMember And Bartre is the best Warrior in the game. 'Nuff said. Geitz Hector Hard mode rapes Bartre. I hate Priscilla Hector Hard mode. She's a disgrace to Raven. A big, fat disgrace. Honestly, all those pegasus knights, which can just go around your units unless you full cover them, and that isn't very recommendable. She gains 11 exp for heal every turn, which is what she'll do. She'll get one and a half levels a chapter, two or three tops. Serra owns her in HHM.
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Blaster Sarge Better to know then to dream... s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1604 since: Feb 2006	May 03, 07 at 4:29pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	@ GM Name me five situations where you NEED an axe user. ------------------- quote Deathwind fapfapfap
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GhostMember Jacket! :3 Hooked on Neo wiki staff fireemblem total posts: 4350 since: Oct 2006	May 03, 07 at 10:59pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Eliwood the Slayer If I'm too late to answer, too bad. quote GhostMember And Bartre is the best Warrior in the game. 'Nuff said. Geitz Hector Hard mode rapes Bartre. quote GhostMember He's only 2 points ahead of Bartre. 3 points in HHM. And at 20/10 (or 10), Spd is the only lead Geitz has which is 2 points (3 points in HHM). Okay, and 1 point in Luk. Meanwhile 20/10 Bartre has a 9 point HP lead, 3 point Str lead, 2 point Skl lead, 3 point Def lead, 5 point Res lead, and a 2 Con lead. Give Geitz HHM bonuses and loses by 5 HP, 1 Str, 1 Skl, 2 Def, 4 Res, and 2 Con. Bartre > Geitz. And that's without factoring Bartre's advantage of joining earlier and having more time for supports. quote Eliwood the Slayer* I hate Priscilla Hector Hard mode. She's a disgrace to Raven. A big, fat disgrace. Honestly, all those pegasus knights, which can just go around your units unless you full cover them, and that isn't very recommendable. She gains 11 exp for heal every turn, which is what she'll do. She'll get one and a half levels a chapter, two or three tops. Serra owns her in HHM. 1. Best Anima user, apart from Pent. 2. Anima > Light (statistically) 3. Serra isn't getting more EXP than her. 4. Priscilla's Mgc and Def is higher than Serra's. (with Serra's LHM level advantage) 5. Serra's Dodge isn't significantly higher than Priscilla's. (at same level) quote Blaster Sarge @ GM Name me five situations where you NEED an axe user. 1. Wire 2. Darin 3. Pascal 4. Wyvern Reinforcements in CoD and VoD 5. Morph Darin Your turn, BS.
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Jookie Dickgirl-to-be ultra seeker total posts: 1312 since: Jul 2006	May 04, 07 at 9:31am re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote GhostMember 1. Wire 2. Darin 3. Pascal 4. Wyvern Reinforcements in CoD and VoD 5. Morph Darin Wire shouldn't count because, if I remember correctly, it's either Hector or Matthew in that chapter, but Matthew can't hurt him. Also, if you want to start a big argument about naming 5 situations where X is necessary, then name 5 where Swords are necessary. Name 5 where Lances are. Name 5 where Anima is necessary. Name 5 where Light is necessary. ------------------- quote The Deathwind MY VAGINA IS COMPLETE FEAR ME MORTALS
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GhostMember Jacket! :3 Hooked on Neo wiki staff fireemblem total posts: 4350 since: Oct 2006	May 04, 07 at 4:47pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Jookie quote GhostMember 1. Wire 2. Darin 3. Pascal 4. Wyvern Reinforcements in CoD and VoD 5. Morph Darin Wire shouldn't count because, if I remember correctly, it's either Hector or Matthew in that chapter, but Matthew can't hurt him. Also, if you want to start a big argument about naming 5 situations where X is necessary, then name 5 where Swords are necessary. Name 5 where Lances are. Name 5 where Anima is necessary. Name 5 where Light is necessary. But I'm not the one who needs wants to change the list. I never made a claim where so-and-so is great because his/her weapons are invaluable. Except for Prissy. But I doubt anyone would deny that Staves aren't invaluable.
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Eliwood the Slayer Neolithic total posts: 6646 since: Jul 2006	May 04, 07 at 5:31pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote GhostMember quote Eliwood the Slayer If I'm too late to answer, too bad. quote GhostMember And Bartre is the best Warrior in the game. 'Nuff said. Geitz Hector Hard mode rapes Bartre. quote GhostMember He's only 2 points ahead of Bartre. 3 points in HHM. And at 20/10 (or 10), Spd is the only lead Geitz has which is 2 points (3 points in HHM). Okay, and 1 point in Luk. Meanwhile 20/10 Bartre has a 9 point HP lead, 3 point Str lead, 2 point Skl lead, 3 point Def lead, 5 point Res lead, and a 2 Con lead. Give Geitz HHM bonuses and loses by 5 HP, 1 Str, 1 Skl, 2 Def, 4 Res, and 2 Con. Bartre > Geitz. And that's without factoring Bartre's advantage of joining earlier and having more time for supports. quote Eliwood the Slayer* I hate Priscilla Hector Hard mode. She's a disgrace to Raven. A big, fat disgrace. Honestly, all those pegasus knights, which can just go around your units unless you full cover them, and that isn't very recommendable. She gains 11 exp for heal every turn, which is what she'll do. She'll get one and a half levels a chapter, two or three tops. Serra owns her in HHM. 1. Best Anima user, apart from Pent. 2. Anima > Light (statistically) 3. Serra isn't getting more EXP than her. 4. Priscilla's Mgc and Def is higher than Serra's. (with Serra's LHM level advantage) 5. Serra's Dodge isn't significantly higher than Priscilla's. (at same level) Bartre comes with a horrible 3 speed in the beginning, with hard hitting enemies. Chapter 13x is not good for him. Geitz can handle stuff when you get him, and that killer axe is a plus. 1-2's higher isn't very much, but I'll give him the props for that 5. That's it. With the easy Lyn mode, Serra can easily get to ten with Lundgren abuse (..). Up to level ten, and you'll definitely want to abuse Lyn mode for Hector hard mode. It's death without it. So, Serra at around level ten, coming at chapter 12, with a level three Priscilla coming three chapters later at level 3, surrounded by many lancers, with only Marcus to guard her. Light magic vs Anima magic. Eh, anima magic wins. But you have soooo many anima users. Okay, one early, one good prepromote, and one underleveled late comer. Renault sucks, and Lucius has too low luck. His dodge is hurt. Badly. That leaves Serra, mrs. high dodge, speed, and res. Everything except def is okay. But her dodge is huge. She'll dodge everything, except maybe swordmasters and heroes. Not much of them, though. Supports are dead even. Every person who can support with them are all good choices with your battle plan. Priscilla is covered by Raven and Oswin, while Serra is covered by Hector and Oswin. Dead. Even.
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tomato13187 NEVER FORGET 2/5 Neoholic since: Dec 2004	May 04, 07 at 5:41pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Renault sucks quote and Lucius has too low luck Doesn't make too much of a difference though. He still tends to have an avoid solid enough to dodge most of everything. Besides, his speed permits one attack from an enemy, if any, since he's such a good attacker. ------------------- [/size]
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GhostMember Jacket! :3 Hooked on Neo wiki staff fireemblem total posts: 4350 since: Oct 2006	May 04, 07 at 6:09pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote Eliwood the Slayer Bartre comes with a horrible 3 speed in the beginning, with hard hitting enemies. Chapter 13x is not good for him. Geitz can handle stuff when you get him, and that killer axe is a plus. 1-2's higher isn't very much, but I'll give him the props for that 5. That's it. I'll consider that while I reread the arguments that MastaHazuki brought up earlier. quote Eliwood the Slayer With the easy Lyn mode, Serra can easily get to ten with Lundgren abuse (..). Up to level ten, and you'll definitely want to abuse Lyn mode for Hector hard mode. It's death without it. So, Serra at around level ten, coming at chapter 12, with a level three Priscilla coming three chapters later at level 3, surrounded by many lancers, with only Marcus to guard her. Light magic vs Anima magic. Eh, anima magic wins. But you have soooo many anima users. Okay, one early, one good prepromote, and one underleveled late comer. Renault sucks, and Lucius has too low luck. His dodge is hurt. Badly. That leaves Serra, mrs. high dodge, speed, and res. Everything except def is okay. But her dodge is huge. She'll dodge everything, except maybe swordmasters and heroes. Not much of them, though. Supports are dead even. Every person who can support with them are all good choices with your battle plan. Priscilla is covered by Raven and Oswin, while Serra is covered by Hector and Oswin. Dead. Even. Abuse isn't considered when playing ranks. Although, I do see your point. Nevertheless, every LM character will be at Lv 7 on a non-abused LHM run so that's what people go with. Except for Wallace though. Anyway, a Level 10 Serra just barely beats Priscilla's base Mgc and Def. Also, Serra isn't exactly significantly dodging more with a 7 level advantage (a mere 10 dodge). I don't see eye to eye on how Serra is more durable in the early game. 1. Erik's troops will NOT pillage Priscilla's village. Which means that you can take your own sweet time to take it. 2. The troops who can reach the village will have to get through Marcus to get to Priscilla. 3. Priscilla has enough movement to get far enough from Erik's troops to avoid combat. Anima users Erk sucks for low Magic. All other Anima users have enough Spd to DA most enemies. Pent arrives late. Nino phails in a ranked run. Priscilla joins early with good bases, albiet limited to staves until promotion. Light users Serra may have a significant dodge lead, I'll give her that, but Lucius has a significant Mgc, Skl, Res, and Con lead which counterbalances that. AS is dead equal if they both use Lightning tomes. And why would you put her within range of SM and Heroes? The point of Magic is for indirect combat. Unless you're rushing, I don't see the point. Supports may be dead even in bonuses. But take a look at the time difference. The supports that Lucius'll probably use take about 100 turns. The supports that Priscilla'll probably use take about 100 turns or earlier. The supports that Serra'll probably use take over 200 turns. Either you're ruining tactics or she won't be getting those bonuses until lategame.
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smash fanatic forum fanatic total posts: 409 since: Jul 2007	Jul 23, 07 at 7:31pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	-Top- Matthew Ninian/Nils Raven Priscilla Oswin Pent -High- Erk Hector Guy Kent Harken Sain Lowen Eliwood -Upper Mid- Florina Geitz Legault Marcus Lucius Heath Serra Fiora Rebecca -Lower Mid- Lyn Dorcas Isadora Rath Vaida Hawkeye Canas Bartre -Low- Dart Nino Louise Renault Jaffar Wil -Bottom- Wallace Karel Farina Karla
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DuKer NukeR Imagination rules the world Neoholic neopoints: 160 GameGrep pts: 123 since: Oct 2006	Jul 23, 07 at 8:06pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	quote GhostMember Since the character ranking is based on personal preference, let's rank the characters based on facts. Post your thoughts and reasons. This will be based on usefulness in Hector Hard Mode. RANKED. Top Tier 1. Hector 2. Oswin 3. Raven 4. Pent 5. Marcus High Tier 6. Legault 7. Eliwood 8. Lucius 9. Harken [No wai] 10. Florina 11. Hawkeye 12. Lyn 13. Priscilla 14. Canas No wai] 15. Heath Mid Tier 16. Lowen 17. Rath 18. Geitz 19. Fiora 20. Kent 21. Sain 22. Athos 23. Guy 24. Erk 25. Louise 26. Matthew 27. Bartre Low Tier 28. Nils/Ninian [Say what?] 29. Serra 30. Vaida 31. Jaffar 32. Dorcas 33. Karel 34. Wil 35. Rebecca 36. Dart 37. Isadora Bottom Tier 38. Farina 39. Nino 40. Wallace 41. Renault 42. Karla This message was edited by GhostMember on Apr 27 2007. ------------------- End world hunger \| GB
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GhostMember Jacket! :3 Hooked on Neo wiki staff fireemblem total posts: 4350 since: Oct 2006	Jul 23, 07 at 11:20pm re: Fire Emblem 7 Tier Ranks
	@ smash fanatic and DN - suggestions to where to put units with valid reasons plz. -------------------
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