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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 08, 09 at 7:49pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote Tweaker Only reason your posting in this forum is cause you needed someone to contradict your crap posts... so here I am. Id take a permanent ban from this forum before I let you run this place into the ground. Just FYI... I'm gonna ask an honest question. Why was it okay for speedy_2 to suggest it being the alternator, and then when I say it could be the alternator, I get shot down, told I'm wrong, and that there isn't even a remote possibility it can be it (not word for word what was said, but the idea of it) and his post goes unnoticed. Why is that? I know what I'm taking about, cause I know quite a bit about cars. More than you guys might think. ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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Tweaker No Title Hooked on Neo total posts: 4038 since: Jul 2003	Nov 08, 09 at 7:59pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote speedy_2 Could be a couple things. Battery could be dead. This could be because of a bad battery or bad alternator. Battery cables could be lose. Bad connection and the car won't start and the alternator won't be able to keep the battery charged properly. I like his list vs just OH HEY NO BATTERY CHARGE SO ITS ALTERNATOR AND YEAH IF YOU CANT DRIVE PAST 30-90 MIN ITS ALTERNATOR. I like detailed facts, not just oh battery isnt charging so lets blame it on the source even though the source can keep the car running without a battery till its shut off or out of gas. Hmmmmm and a HMMMMM idk I guess I am biased so theres your "honest answer".
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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 08, 09 at 8:47pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote brownsrock It could be the alternator too. That's what happened to me recently with my old S-10. At first, it would just click, and then, it wouldn't at all. But yeah, just take it to autozone and have them text the battery and alternator. They'll check both for free. That was my post dude. All I said was it could be. Not that it was. And then KFC turned it into a big deal because he can't handle the fact I could be right. Cause he thinks he's all knowing, and that he has to be right, just because he mods an almost dead forum/ ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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KFC_Or_Bust Yankees > Red Sox (moderator) Motor Vehicles total posts: 16336 since: Feb 2002	Nov 08, 09 at 11:03pm re: Battery Problem?
	I don't think I'm all knowing, you dumbass. What I do know, AGAIN, is that cars do NOT RUN ON HOPES AND DREAMS. There needs to be a power source (THE ALTERNATOR OR BATTERY) for it to run. Now, the car won't start by itself, but will with a jump so that means the battery is dead. After tha cables are taken off it stays running fine for a half hour. Now that's not magic, I assure you. It's the alternator doing its job and supplying the eletrical system with power. If that's just too hard to understand, stay out of my dead forum and fap to Pokemon. ------------------- 1994 Oldsmobile Bravada - Slow
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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 08, 09 at 11:26pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote KFC_Or_Bust I don't think I'm all knowing, you dumbass. Why did you say I was wrong then? When I just gave my opinion on what this problem could be? I didn't even say he had to buy one. I just said it could be the problem, and later on I said it can't hurt to get it tested as well. quote KFC_Or_Bust Now, the car won't start by itself, but will with a jump so that means the battery is dead. After tha cables are taken off it stays running fine for a half hour. Now that's not magic, I assure you. It's the alternator doing its job and supplying the eletrical system with power. Ohh really now. I would have never known the alternator is doing it's job if you would have never told me. (/sarcasm) If the alternator is bad, it will kill the battery (if you don't catch it). That's why my battery died, because I had to keep driving on the battery, to get home from school, and then go up to autozone to get the parts, then to go back home. But it's not even work arguing over, because your just some guy on a forum I'll never meet, nor would I want to. quote KFC_Or_Bust If that's just too hard to understand, stay out of my dead forum I understand it. I know I could be right. You just are to ignorant to know some guy you've never seen on this forum before could possibly be right, and saw it could be a problem, and you didn't. So you think it can't be that. But I'm not even gonna keep arguing over something so stupid with someone who can't handle someone they don't know being right. quote KFC_Or_Bust and fap to Pokemon. What you do on your own time is your own business. Just because you fap to Pokémon doesn't mean I do. ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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KFC_Or_Bust Yankees > Red Sox (moderator) Motor Vehicles total posts: 16336 since: Feb 2002	Nov 08, 09 at 11:49pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote brownsrock If the alternator is bad, it will kill the battery (if you don't catch it). That's why my battery died, because I had to keep driving on the battery, to get home from school, and then go up to autozone to get the parts, then to go back home. But it's not even work arguing over, because your just some guy on a forum I'll never meet, nor would I want to. I'm so glad that's why your battery died. But here's the thing, batteries don't last forever, frequently they die for no apparent reason. But gee, I wouldn't know that, having worked at an auto parts store for 2 years. I have seen tons of batteries come back after being used daily and then just don't work the next day, shit happens sometimes. Although I believe the OP said it wasn't started in a few weeks so the already weakened battery was just discharged and is not kaput. You're still harping on how your battery died, when you still haven't acknowledged that the car won't run on magical powers. And wow, really? Turning what I said about you and Pokemon back at me like it's supposed to mean something? Didn't that shit get old in like what, second grade? You're just digging yourself deeper dude. ------------------- 1994 Oldsmobile Bravada - Slow
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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 09, 09 at 12:11am re: Battery Problem?
	quote KFC_Or_Bust I'm so glad that's why your battery died. But here's the thing, batteries don't last forever, frequently they die for no apparent reason. But gee, I wouldn't know that, having worked at an auto parts store for 2 years. I have seen tons of batteries come back after being used daily and then just don't work the next day, shit happens sometimes. That's awesome you worked at an autoparts store for 2 years. That doesn't mean you automatically know everything there is to about cars. And the thing about batteries, is they will die eventually. That's how batteries are. Even rechargeable ones. They get to the point where they can't charge anymore. quote KFC_Or_Bust Although I believe the OP said it wasn't started in a few weeks so the already weakened battery was just discharged and is not kaput. His alternator could have been bad to begin with, and he just didn't know about it, because the car hadn't been run in a few weeks. That crap happens. quote KFC_Or_Bust You're still harping on how your battery died, when you still haven't acknowledged that the car won't run on magical powers. I didn't ever acknowledge it, because of how ridiculous it sounds. What more needs to be said? quote KFC_Or_Bust And wow, really? Turning what I said about you and Pokemon back at me like it's supposed to mean something? Didn't that shit get old in like what, second grade? Sure it's old. I haven't used that in awhile for a come back, and since I don't argue irl because I actually like my friends, girlfriend, and family. Here I just come to waste time, but I need to find something more worthwhile to waste my time with, because this site isn't even worth it anymore. Too many people like you. quote KFC_Or_Bust You're just digging yourself deeper dude. Why should I care? I can disappear at any one second, and you'll never hear from me again. I can create a new username, or just never come back. You'd never know the difference. ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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SVTman Dont test my gangsta! Hooked on Neo total posts: 4581 since: Jun 2004	Nov 09, 09 at 2:48am re: Battery Problem?
	quote brownsrock His alternator could have been bad to begin with, and he just didn't know about it, because the car hadn't been run in a few weeks. That crap happens. Ive never heard of an alternator crapping out because it hasnt been run in a few weeks. Ive heard of alternators crapping out because of age and constant over revving, but not from just being stagnant. KFC does have a solid point. If the car runs off a jump, 99% of the time its your battery. When we store cars at work we disconnect the batteries for people or pullem. When we have to move multiple cars, we hook the battery up start the car and yank the battery to put in another car..the car will still run cause the alternator can supply enough power to run a motor for a short time under light conditions. What auto stores will check is how many cranking amps are left on a battery, because weve charged batteries at work to 13v, put them in a car and still no worky...take it to the sto, have it checked and its dead as a doornail. But of course this info has been stated a couple times, but maybe once more will make it authentic. ------------------- Motor Cars
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KFC_Or_Bust Yankees > Red Sox (moderator) Motor Vehicles total posts: 16336 since: Feb 2002	Nov 09, 09 at 3:39am re: Battery Problem?
	quote brownsrock That's awesome you worked at an autoparts store for 2 years. That doesn't mean you automatically know everything there is to about cars. I don't and never said I did. What I do know about cars, is a shitload more than you currently know. quote And the thing about batteries, is they will die eventually. That's how batteries are. Even rechargeable ones. They get to the point where they can't charge anymore. Ok, so you're just rewording what I explained to you? Congrats. quote His alternator could have been bad to begin with, and he just didn't know about it, because the car hadn't been run in a few weeks. That crap happens. Riddle me this Batman, if his alternator was bad, how did it run for a half hour after being jumped? Once again we're back to the logic of cars don't run on magic. quote I didn't ever acknowledge it, because of how ridiculous it sounds. What more needs to be said? But it's quite obvious you still don't know how either the alternator or battery need to be running in order for the car to run. Since it can't be started on battery power, yet runs after being jumped, it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the battery is dead and the alternator is just fine. quote Sure it's old. I haven't used that in awhile for a come back, and since I don't argue irl because I actually like my friends, girlfriend, and family. Here I just come to waste time, but I need to find something more worthwhile to waste my time with, because this site isn't even worth it anymore. Too many people like you. So wasting time is using a "comeback" my 10 year old brother would laugh at? At least you changed your sig. quote brownsrock Why should I care? I can disappear at any one second, and you'll never hear from me again. I can create a new username, or just never come back. You'd never know the difference. Don't get me excited!!! ------------------- 1994 Oldsmobile Bravada - Slow
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Yergin 05 - The Man, The Legend, We Remember Resident Neo total posts: 2619 since: Mar 2002	Nov 09, 09 at 10:19am re: Battery Problem?
	KFC - my battery got jumped and my car died in 30 mins afterwards as my alternator was also bleeped!... It COULD be either - it's just MOST likely to be the battery. cheapest way is to check your current battery & connections if the connections are clean and battery is gone buy new battery and install, which you can do yourself even if you know nothing, then if it dies within a week, take it to a mechanic and get the alternator done! Also i better emphasize that my battery was brand new purchased 2 days prior, died in the city had the RACV jump start me and i drove the 30mins to home and it died driving up my driveway! ------------------- FAQ's:- Driver 2, Max Payne, THUG \| Banner By:- Thug Maniac
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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 09, 09 at 11:11am re: Battery Problem?
	quote KFC_Or_Bust I don't and never said I did. What I do know about cars, is a shitload more than you currently know. You sure act like it. quote KFC_Or_Bust Riddle me this Batman, if his alternator was bad, how did it run for a half hour after being jumped? Once again we're back to the logic of cars don't run on magic. My truck ran about 30 minutes on a bad alternator. Must have just been magic though, because according to you, I know nothing. quote KFC_Or_Bust But it's quite obvious you still don't know how either the alternator or battery need to be running in order for the car to run. Since it can't be started on battery power, yet runs after being jumped, it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the battery is dead and the alternator is just fine. I know exactly how they work. It's probably you that doesn't. quote Yergin KFC - my battery got jumped and my car died in 30 mins afterwards as my alternator was also bleeped!... It COULD be either - it's just MOST likely to be the battery. cheapest way is to check your current battery & connections if the connections are clean and battery is gone buy new battery and install, which you can do yourself even if you know nothing, then if it dies within a week, take it to a mechanic and get the alternator done! Also i better emphasize that my battery was brand new purchased 2 days prior, died in the city had the RACV jump start me and i drove the 30mins to home and it died driving up my driveway! KFC, I'm not the only one to get my truck (or vehicle i general) to run 30 mins on a crap alternator. So maybe you really don't know what you're talking about. ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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Kurt I saw. I came. It was sticky. Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5322 since: Oct 2002	Nov 09, 09 at 4:53pm re: Battery Problem?
	Haha! This is more entertaining to read than Corey and I going at it. I'm also putting my vote on the battery. I used to work at a used car lot all the time and constantly had dead batteries. If the alternator was bad, as soon as the jumper cables or battery pack was off, the car would die. We had a Ford Contour that had the exact same problem. The only way we could move the car was with the battery pack still on the battery to provide some sort of charge. ------------------- 2004 Ford Crown Victoria- 21mm rear swaybar, BOC 91 octane tune, dual Flowmaster 40s, 3.73 gears, posi, Marauder airbox and 80mm MAF, '04 PI zip tube, 70mm tb, ported and polished intake plenum... 15.07 @ 90.65 with a 2.18 60'
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KFC_Or_Bust Yankees > Red Sox (moderator) Motor Vehicles total posts: 16336 since: Feb 2002	Nov 09, 09 at 8:52pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote brownsrock quote Yergin Also i better emphasize that my battery was brand new purchased 2 days prior, died in the city had the RACV jump start me and i drove the 30mins to home and it died driving up my driveway! KFC, I'm not the only one to get my truck (or vehicle i general) to run 30 mins on a crap alternator. So maybe you really don't know what you're talking about. See, you little retard, his battery was hardly 2 days old and not stone dead as the OP's likely is. New batterys with fresh cells can take a charge of any kind much faster and hold it better than an old dead battery. Also the time being able to drive on battery only or mostly on battery depends on the electronics of the vehicle, headlights on, etc. Also, if an alternator is "dead" it's not always 100% done for. It can still provide a tiny bit of charging power and like I mentioned, with a new battery they take a charge much better than an old one with dead cells. Trust me dude, a lot of times I had people come in for alternators AND batteries at the same time because the crapped out alternator killed their battery and they never paid attention to their gauges or anything in general. ------------------- 1994 Oldsmobile Bravada - Slow
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Kurt I saw. I came. It was sticky. Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5322 since: Oct 2002	Nov 09, 09 at 10:41pm re: Battery Problem?
	Chris, when are you going to realize that you know nothing about cars and that brownsrock is the definitive automotive authority around these parts? ------------------- 2004 Ford Crown Victoria- 21mm rear swaybar, BOC 91 octane tune, dual Flowmaster 40s, 3.73 gears, posi, Marauder airbox and 80mm MAF, '04 PI zip tube, 70mm tb, ported and polished intake plenum... 15.07 @ 90.65 with a 2.18 60'
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brownsrock 11/01/09 <3 Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13641 since: Mar 2008	Nov 09, 09 at 11:18pm re: Battery Problem?
	quote KFC_Or_Bust See, you little retard, his battery was hardly 2 days old and not stone dead as the OP's likely is. New batterys with fresh cells can take a charge of any kind much faster and hold it better than an old dead battery. Also the time being able to drive on battery only or mostly on battery depends on the electronics of the vehicle, headlights on, etc. Also, if an alternator is "dead" it's not always 100% done for. It can still provide a tiny bit of charging power and like I mentioned, with a new battery they take a charge much better than an old one with dead cells. Trust me dude, a lot of times I had people come in for alternators AND batteries at the same time because the crapped out alternator killed their battery and they never paid attention to their gauges or anything in general. It appears a lot of what you just said above is stuff I've been trying to say, but you just tell me I'm wrong. I didn't exactly word it like you did, but it's the same stuff. Looking back through stuff I said, I probably didn't word everything the best. But thanks for proving my point though. quote Kurt Chris, when are you going to realize that you know nothing about cars and that brownsrock is the definitive automotive authority around these parts? Kurt, the sad part is I'm 18 and I know more about cars than you, and you're older than me, and you actually work on your car. You should probably know more than me, but you don't. The only time I ever work on my truck is when I need to fix something. ------------------- 1 2 which one will you click?
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