and you actually know wat the main characters face looks like

i think half life 2 is the best because it is more realistic and better graphics, really better graphics. i have actually played both and i like half life 2 better, much better.

Im a pretty big halo fan and so are 4 billion other people. But im not hardcore.
Even though im a halo fan, im a huge ass Quake-Doom-Killzone fan. Nothing to change that.
I prefer Half Life 2 over any other game on the PC, except Quake 4(cant wait!) and Doom 3.
A bigger fight is Doom 3 vs. Half-Lfe 2, since they are both on the PC.
Another thing is..... why 2 games of 2 different consoles?
This isnt like a GC vs. PS2 game. They have practically the same power. The PC(including mine) is much more powerful. And when Dell comes out with a stronger PC, the PS3, Xbox 360, NR vs. PC fight will probably a big fight.
Even when Alienware's new PC comes out.
Well i think im getting off topic here so....

Hmm, thats interesting that you like both Halo and Killzone. I personally don't like Killzone because it goes to extreme measures to rip off Halo in every aspect. IT has the two weapon limit, the melee when you get up close, a limited selecton of weapons, and the tougher enemies are called Elites! CAn you say "lack of originality"? NO wonder Killzone 2 is drawing so much attention, it is the Halo formula on PS3!

Too bad Halo is the most overrated FPS series, or series for that matter, ever. The only reason it's so popular is because it is what sold XBOX's. Really, think about it, Halo only got so much praise because it was the only good freaking XBOX launch title so they advertised the hell out of it. Then Halo 2 came out and at first no one wanted to admit how much it sucks, but after a while it dawned on you people, "omg we can't lie to ourselves anymore, this game *bleep*ing sucks, and I standed in line for 50 hours for copy and paste level design, *bleep*!*bleep*!*bleep*! I want my 55 dollars back for this shitty collectors edition!"

So who cares?

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Too bad Halo is the most overrated FPS series, or series for that matter, ever. The only reason it's so popular is because it is what sold XBOX's. Really, think about it, Halo only got so much praise because it was the only good freaking XBOX launch title so they advertised the hell out of it. Then Halo 2 came out and at first no one wanted to admit how much it sucks, but after a while it dawned on you people, "omg we can't lie to ourselves anymore, this game *bleep*ing sucks, and I standed in line for 50 hours for copy and paste level design, *bleep*!*bleep*!*bleep*! I want my 55 dollars back for this shitty collectors edition!"

So who cares?

Me and my friends - and many other people - didn't buy it for it's single player, but for it's multiplayer. The online RULES. It's way better than CS:S and Half Life 2: DM. There's so many more game types and different ways to play.

So basically you paid 50 dollars for half a game.

Hl2 has more intelligent fan boys.

hehheh, keyword there is fanboys

... which comes from a Halo-fanboy
What do fanboys have to do with the quality of a game?

I agree. Halo was so over rated that it didn't live to the expectations of the fans. Half Life 2 took a long time to create and so did Halo 2. HL2 had a new engine, gravity gun and other mind blowing stuff. While Halo 2 had just dual weilding.

Half-Life 2 is not the first game to use physics in order to by-pass a certain area in order to complete the game.

Which game was it?

Pong. You need to hit the ball past the enemy to win. That is physics, and they are required to win.

Actually if you want to get technical that wasn't physics.

Well Physics is defined as "study of objects in motion." So yeah anything moving is "physics." But, the "ragdoll physics" is one thing. And the ability to pick things up and have them realisticlly move and react to the rest of the enviornment is more "object enviornmental awareness" than "physics."