quote The Stinger

Its still unclear whether the Titans will be able to retain the services of Eddie George or not either. If they do have to deal, or release him, Payton has a legitimate shot at trying to win the starting job in the pre-season for the Titans.

It would be hard to imagine Eddie George playing for another team than the Titans, but these days money is more important than legacy I guess.

Alot of people here in Tennessee are hoping to get Eddie out of here, its been like that for a while. It might take a few seasons to develop a new back, but Eddie isin't the power house he used to be. Last season has been his best in a while. Most fans think that Robert Holecomb should have started over him, seeing that Eddie is getting pretty old and whenever he is being as productive as he used to be he blames it on his toe injury that he recieved a couple of seasons ago. I thought when we drafted Chris Brown in the 03' draft he was going to be Eddie's replacement in the upcoming years, since they have similar running styles. I would rather see a new halfback come in and have a few loosing seasons than sign Eddie for a big ass amount of money and be forced to cut some potentally great players.

I looked at Payton's college stats last night, they didn't seem so bad. He ran for 985 yards and had 7 touchdowns in his final season with the Hurricans. I think he will be a good runningback for us in the future.

Did you guys see Ray Lewis beat up his girlfriend and left her in her appartment. I think this is the second time but not sure. Also im not sure, but he may be still on probation from being at a murder scene his superbowl year.
I think this guy has some anger problems, something he uses well on the football field.
Really, it wouldn't surprize me if he was using steriods. He played pretty damn well with that injured shoulder, he shows the signs of being angry all the time, and hes obviously one hell of a tough athlete. Im not accusing him of taking steriods, but i think its defenitly a possability. It would defenitly be a huge dissapointment if he was ever caught taking them.

Steroids are well chronicled of having side effects that make the user incapable of controlling their emotions like they normally would.

The most common term for this side effect is "Roid Rage".

I thought Ray Lewis was a bigger man than that. Its my belief that any man who resorts to physically assaulting a female, needs to be dragged out into the street by about 4 or 5 guys, and just have the living F'ing G*ddamn SHIT kicked out of them.

What a little bitch Ray Lewis is. A guy that big, beating on a female. Steroids or not, there's no excuse for that.

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Hey LCH what do you think about the Silver and Crack...er Black picking up "famous" Amos Zeroue?

He's not Charlie Garner, but hes a pretty good pickup I think. He can run, catch, and block. At least he brings some starting ability and speed into that Raider backfied. Fargas is pretty quick, but inexperienced as a starter. I thought that was a pretty good move by Al Dumbass..er Davis, even though Zeroue isnt on his last legs of his career agewise.

That Raider team is one Re-vamped SOB this year. New head coach, and 7 new players. All of which could very well be starters on opening day. The only non starter would be Ray Buchanan if Rod Woodson is good to go, but he's still more than capable of playing nickelback.

That is pretty shitty, we had a fullback on our high school team slap his girlfriend. Our coach told us to take care of him in the locker room and boy did we. Too bad the pros arent like that...

quote CotyCarr56

That is pretty shitty, we had a fullback on our high school team slap his girlfriend. Our coach told us to take care of him in the locker room and boy did we. Too bad the pros arent like that...

Huh??? I don't think your football coach should get involved with his player's privacy life, and he could get into some serious troubles from this.

Any way, I read this article from Maxim about baseball, and it raises a question to me about the NFL:
Scott Boras (as decribed in the article "the most powerful and reviled agent on Earth") got asked this question: "Would a salary cap give baseball parity like the NFL?"
Mr.Boras's answere (I quote) "I think it's disgusting that the only way they can find parity in the NFL is to make sure that the last-place teams only play the last-place teams. It's almost noncompetitive"

So here is my question: Is parity good or bad for the NFL? do you think what Mr.Boras said is true?

Parity is good, because as a fan you know you are a player or coach away. Of course a Agent isn't going to like a hard cap, they don't get paid as much. Baseball's players salaries are idiotic, the fact that the Yankee's SS n 3rd basemen are worth more then most other teams whole roster is ludcrous. I am sick of baseball n there whiny players, tahst why I don't get down on Football player who want to get there money. Because a football players contract isn't garenteed like in baseball, not to mention an average players career is only 4 years unliek baseball. These are just some of the reasons football is by far America's National Past time.

I'm agree with you,LCH. I like parity in the NFL since it always gives me hope,and that's so great about the NFL because every team has an equal chance to win the Superbowl in the off-season. Unlike the MLB and maybe even for the NBA, small market teams are less likely to win championship.

However, the only problem that I have with it:
There is no loyalty in the NFL any more since the salary cap established. With the limited cap, it's hard for teams to keep their good players around for a long time which force some players to make some unpopular decisions to their fans like hold out or to seek for a trade with other teams.
As a fan, I hate to see this happening to my fave team and players, but, honestly, can we really blame them? In this salary cap mess, no one really knows what future will hold for them, therefore, players are been seen "greedy athletes" to fans eyes nowadays, and by the way, I don't recall "hold out" ever occur in other major sports like: baseball, basketball or hockey.
The only winner in this salary cap mess is the owners who make hundred millions to billions every year, when average players NFL players only make 1-2 millions a year. That seems little unfair to the players.

Parity is good, as LCH said.

Although I'm going to have to disagree with you HN.

The salary cap is a good thing. I dislike how Derek Jeter's salary alone is more than the entire payroll of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

And teams can stay loyal to their players, if a player isn't a complete and total idiot like Terrell Owens. He's the ONLY franchise player that I've heard of in a long time to leave his franchise (aside from Jerry Rice). Then again, if you think about it, perhaps that's just a 49'ers thing. Since both Rice and Owens played for them....

quote hn2000_80

The only winner in this salary cap mess is the owners who make hundred millions to billions every year, when average players NFL players only make 1-2 millions a year. That seems little unfair to the players.

i do agree with you there BUT, the owners also have to pay a shitload of cash to own an NFL team. they also have to pay coaching staff, upgrades to stadiums, and stuff like that.

the salary cap is pretty good, but i still like to watch baseball even if it is uneven, bcoz its not like the teams with smaller payrolls are doomed to eternity. they can still do pretty well if they all try their hardest every day and get lucky.


Mj

quote Cdemon

The Rams could use another defensive end... Leonard Little might be put away for a couple years if he's prosecuted for that woman he killed four years ago. They found him drinking and driving again a couple days ago. All I can say is *bleep*.

I think that is bullshit, and he should have went to jail when it happend. If I went out tonight and got drunk and killed somebody when I was under the influence I would be sitting in a jail for a very long time, he shouldn't get out of it becuase of his money or his fame.... sorry for the delayed post on that subject.

Now about our high school fullback/coach thing... who is going to tell on him? and why?

This message was edited by cotycarr56 on May 03 2004.

quote hn2000_80

quote CotyCarr56

That is pretty shitty, we had a fullback on our high school team slap his girlfriend. Our coach told us to take care of him in the locker room and boy did we. Too bad the pros arent like that...

Huh??? I don't think your football coach should get involved with his player's privacy life, and he could get into some serious troubles from this.

I totally agree. Your coach should have no physical envolvement with the situation even if it is threw other children. All he should have done was report it, nothing more. Whatever you guys did is wrong and you're lucky you didn't get in major trouble for it.

can someone post a link about this ray lewis situation? i haven't actualy seen anything myself. i like to give people the benefit of the doubt in all situations...you know "innocent until proven guilty."

Don't know where you guys are from, but I am from a small town in the south. If you hit a female down here, you get your ass kicked, if someone calls the local sheriffs department and reports it, the deputies usually help beat the guys ass. If the coach had hit him, yes he would have been in trouble, but he didn't the players did. He just casted a blind eye on the situation, thats what Ray Lewis's teammates should do to his ass.

Anyway, the New York Giants offered former Tennessee Titans QB Neil O'Donnel a contract to serve as the back up for Eli Manning, he told them he wasen't interested in returning to the NFL though. So now they are turning to Damon Huard of the Patriots and possibly Kurt Warner if he gets released by St. Louis.

quote mj_da_best

quote hn2000_80

The only winner in this salary cap mess is the owners who make hundred millions to billions every year, when average players NFL players only make 1-2 millions a year. That seems little unfair to the players.

i do agree with you there BUT, the owners also have to pay a shitload of cash to own an NFL team. they also have to pay coaching staff, upgrades to stadiums, and stuff like that.

Mj

I agree with you, MJ. Anyone who thinks being an owner is easy should try out the "Owner Mode" on Madden to find out how difficult it really is. I know Madden is a game, and it might not be entirely realistic, but at least you would get a good idea of the expenses of owners and think less of them as greedy SOBs (although some of them are).

-James.

quote CotyCarr56

Anyway, the New York Giants offered former Tennessee Titans QB Neil O'Donnel a contract to serve as the back up for Eli Manning, he told them he wasen't interested in returning to the NFL though. So now they are turning to Damon Huard of the Patriots and possibly Kurt Warner if he gets released by St. Louis.

Damon Huard seems like a suitable replacement for K.Collins and back up of Eli Manning. However, I don't think Kurt will sign with the Giants unless they really open their pocket to Kurt.

I think Kurt is most suitable for the Dallas Cowboys. They have a decent group of WRs, a solid rookie Rb but unproven, a very good OL (it depends how thing is gonna turn out with Larry Allen), and a number one "ranked" defense. Clearly, they aren't going anway where with Q.Carter, and Jerry and Parcells can't rush Henson into action right now, besides, Kurt is still good probably for 1 or two years, and I believe the Cowboys's future is "now".Therefore, signing kurt would seem like a very good idea. So what are they still waiting for?
Talking about qb, if the Redskin would had waited a little bit longer, they could get Kurt or Collins for a cheaper price than M.Brunell.

Okay, I want to get one thing clear. I like the salary cap, and I love the "current" system of the NFL, so don't get me wronged. All I want to say that as fans, we might seem to pass judgement on NFL players who are clearly underpaid if you compared them to MLB players and NBA players, and it seems unfair, because none of us has ever been in their shoes before.
And no, I don't think it's easy in the reality to be an owner of a NFL team, but the truth is they are still making way more money than athletes, and every time an NFL player pops up asking for a new contract, we automatically label him "greedy".