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Alias353 Neo or Bust since: Aug 2002	Apr 05, 04 at 1:39am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	No, YOU have you pay attention to the story. After the credits roll a black screen comes up and you hear Revolver Ocelot conversing with the Presdient. Ocelot clearly states that the Dominant one failed to the inferior. In other words, liquid didn't know he had the dominant genes and solid actually had the recessive genes.
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maisto Da Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseeker ultra seeker total posts: 1457 since: Mar 2004	Apr 05, 04 at 3:55am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote MetalGearSolid You HAVE to pay attention to the plot. Liquid says that Big Boss's genes were grown into "test tube babies" which were Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, and Solidus Snake.Snake was made with all of Bigg Boss's dominant genes and Liquid got the recessive genes.Snake has BROWN hair because it is caused by a DOMINANT gene. BLONDE hair is recessive, that's why Liquid has it. I can't tell you much about Solidus because I don't have Sons of Liberty or Substance. I do know however that he has whit hair so I think he has a mixture of dominant/recessive genes.[/color] My suggestion is jeez, just let this one go. Continuity errors are just that. Just ignore it. Liquid and Solidus are both blonde, although Solidus, due to his age and is alot older, he has white hair. Noticing the fact that Big Boss has dark hair in MGS 3: Snake Eater (which im assuming its Big Boss), would all his clones be blonde? And for those who refuse to get the idea that Solid Snake is indeed the weakest of them all, accept it. Liquid and Solidus are definitely more dominant. Solid Snake is the weakest yet he has the most will to fight. Maybe we should get to the topic of why Solid Snake had to cut his mullet or why Liquid doesnt grow facial hair etc... lol
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MetalGearSolid starting to like it total posts: 50 since: Apr 2004	Apr 05, 04 at 10:45pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	ocelot says that the inferior failed not the dominant. i know this because i just beat Rex for the 7th time... also, the plot is the story. Now you know a new word to your vocabulary. solid snake has brown hair, get over it. the camera doesn't get that close to snake's face in the breifing. I'm guessing that pic was computer generated. btw, that isn't a mullet. a mullet is when you have a buzz cut everywhere but the back of your head, where it is long. snake has long hair all over his head so it's shaggy, not a mullet. ------------------- "You too? Immortal?" "No...I just don't fear death." Raiden=Grey Fox MGS4 is godsent.
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Codester ╩╩ν s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1782 since: Oct 2003	Apr 05, 04 at 11:29pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote MetalGearSolid ocelot says that the inferior failed not the dominant. i know this because i just beat Rex for the 7th time... also, the plot is the story. Now you know a new word to your vocabulary. solid snake has brown hair, get over it. the camera doesn't get that close to snake's face in the breifing. I'm guessing that pic was computer generated. btw, that isn't a mullet. a mullet is when you have a buzz cut everywhere but the back of your head, where it is long. snake has long hair all over his head so it's shaggy, not a mullet. 1. you obviously dont listen because if you just beat the game youll know that ocelot says that the inferior was the winner after all. 2. that picture isnt computer generated. dont believe? go watch the mission briefing on the ps1 version. thats not computer generated. think before you speak. 3. a mullet is when you have long hair in the back. not a frickin buzz cut with just long hair. maybe thats what you have, and you wish you had a mullet. but sorry thats not what it is. ------------------- Stolen from Paynie who stole it from Crispy_Bacon.
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maisto Da Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseeker ultra seeker total posts: 1457 since: Mar 2004	Apr 06, 04 at 2:50am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote Codester [quote] 1. you obviously dont listen because if you just beat the game youll know that ocelot says that the inferior was the winner after all. 2. that picture isnt computer generated. dont believe? go watch the mission briefing on the ps1 version. thats not computer generated. think before you speak. 3. a mullet is when you have long hair in the back. not a frickin buzz cut with just long hair. maybe thats what you have, and you wish you had a mullet. but sorry thats not what it is. Bingo Codester... Lol Mr. Metal Gear Solid.. here is a vocabulary for you to use. Inferior(n-f�r-r) Low or lower in order, degree, or rank: Captain is an inferior rank to major. Dominant(dm-nnt) Most prominent, as in position; ascendant. Alrite.. Ya like Codester said, the briefing mission is hand drawn art dude. The same art drawings used for the MGS covers, storyboards and website. Dude, were you even old enough to see the 80s? nor were you even born before '90s? Cuz if you are, then obviously the only mullets your seeing rite now are the trailer park ones? Almost all rock stars had mullets. You can call it a shag but last time i checked, Scooby Doo's buddy had a shag. And his hair is not a rocket scientist, Dr. Emmet Brown style of hair (from back to the future)
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cobra2 Nothing can stop me now Resident Neo since: Nov 2001	Apr 06, 04 at 7:21am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	My God! Snake's hair is brown and Liquid's is blond, it's the end of the world oh no!!! Look, Snake had blonde hair in the original Metal Gear on MSX. In the original MGS1, Snake had blond hair during the briefing tapes. Then Snake cut his hair and dyed it so he wouldn't be confused with Liquid Snake. In this version however, Snake's hair is already cut and dyed brown during the briefing. Which means that Snake cut and dyed his during his time in Alaska. Nothing so weird about that, but I guess hair could mean the end of the world. ------------------- If you look at your reflection... is that all you want to be? ~My Poetry + Please Sign My Guestbook~
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maisto Da Greatest Thing to Happen on Neoseeker ultra seeker total posts: 1457 since: Mar 2004	Apr 06, 04 at 10:29am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote cobra2 My God! Snake's hair is brown and Liquid's is blond, it's the end of the world oh no!!! Look, Snake had blonde hair in the original Metal Gear on MSX. In the original MGS1, Snake had blond hair during the briefing tapes. Then Snake cut his hair and dyed it so he wouldn't be confused with Liquid Snake. In this version however, Snake's hair is already cut and dyed brown during the briefing. Which means that Snake cut and dyed his during his time in Alaska. Nothing so weird about that, but I guess hair could mean the end of the world. Now i know why this topic has become very interesting. All seems to even out on who to believe he is really blonde or not.. MG2:Solid Snake One pic clearly states the guy has dark hair.. And this aint one of those friggin "its an american pic so its not reliable" crap.. Those pictures of Solid Snake were the same ones used in MSX.. You know. the one where Big Boss looks like a friggin Sean Connery and Solid Snake looks like a Bill Pullman.. MG1 for MSX and NES Bingo.. we have a winner again.. Solid Snake looks handsome dont he? and i dont see any blondie here.. Now keep in mind that i'm the guy who said screw with this friggin' thread about him being blonde or not and here i am posting a reply and proof that he aint blonde in the first 2 games.. But now the thread has definitely gone up on interest. People seem to divide here on whether him being blonde or not. WHY DONT WE ALL JUST ADMIT THAT THIS WAS JUST A CONTINUITY ERROR? BLONDE, DIRTY BLONDE, BRUNNETTE.. I MEAN CMON.. Its a friggin hair.. why is his facial hair being ignored? This message was edited by maisto on Apr 06 2004.
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metalman_zero threadnought since: Mar 2003	Apr 06, 04 at 2:09pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote Saint Jaycee I'm kinda' disappointed that they forgot about this little detail. Solid Snake is blonde, just like Liquid, but in The Twin Snake's Briefing feature, Snake's hair is already dark. [ Larger Image Link ] Anyway, here's something that'll prove that he's really supposed to be blonde. Campbell said that the only difference betweed Solid Snake and Liquid is their skintone. He didn't mention anything about the hair. He also used that same line in the original MGS. [color=#666666]This message was edited by Saint Jaycee on Apr 02 2004. I recognized that mistake as well but really didnt pay no mind to it because, you know, its just hair. I also remember pics of the first two mg's with his hair blond but the pics maisto shown here counters that... I always figured that he dyed it dark so it wont stick out more. This message was edited by metalman_zero on Apr 06 2004. -------------------
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Yhegar Meister Must tragedy always occur? no-stoppin-me-now since: Sep 2003	Apr 06, 04 at 7:25pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	Listen to yourselves, you're arguing about.. HAIR color. I mean come on guys, there has to be better things to debate about... I mean Solid could have had it dyed blonde for all you know, and in genes 101, brown hair is dominant and blonde recessive. If you think Solid Snake is the inferior one.. Laugh Fought a tank, Foxhound... blasted down an attack chopper just himself with a stinger missile, fought a huge muktuk eating winner chain gun wielding Vulcan Raven, ingeniously switched his controller to slot 2 to go against Mant's mind tricks.. (Do they still have that? Haven't played Twin snakes yet..) Ran back and freaking forth to get some stupid keycards to change colors, and BLEW up a metal gear for like the 4th time (If you count the nintendo games)Also been in a chase with a jeep and loads of chaos... And you CALL him INFERIOR?! Well.. Liquid has survived a helecopter crash.. (From a really long drop I remember..) Also survived his metal gear crash, a fist fight with snake, falling OFF the metal gear, then single handedly driving a jeep and determined to ram snake off the road, also.. Nearly shooting and killing Solid (Fooooox diiiiie...) Then getting his ARM severed and having it attached to Ocelot... (Oh, didn't he shoot down like 2-3 F-15's with that copter once? I remember that in the beginning of the game...) And you CALL him INFERIOR?! IF anybody is the inferior one here... I would point my finger at Solidus.. I mean.. he had to use a power suit for crying out loud... Sure he had a harrier.. but VAMP was flying the damn thing.. Flying around and blowing up the rays? Suit... I bet you take that thing off and he would be running around like a sober pedestrian..(I like his voice.. but still... had to use a suit.. I beat him up with just Solid's fists in substance...) Sorry.. but Solidus is inferior.. WELL... this has certainly gone off topic! Solid's color is brown! And I like it like that! Faints
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Anonymousse Certified Lexus Tech Still Seekin' total posts: 3468 since: Jul 2001	Apr 06, 04 at 9:44pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	It's also quite confusing why an Asian would have blonde hair as a dominant trait... Blood from the East flows in your veins... Japanese and Inuit are cousins, blah blah blah, ancestors in the barren plains of Mongolia, etc. etc. etc. - Vulcan Raven
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bosoxpete8 JAYZSWAG Neo or Bust since: Dec 2002	Apr 06, 04 at 9:53pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	Hideo Kojima recognizes Solid Snake's race as being part Asian (Japanese) and Caucasion (British), so it's completely possible for him or Liquid to have blond hair. This is a good discussion guys, just try and prove your points with a little less attitude, and steer clear from purposely flaming others. ------------------- *Vi$A∏ -- OFFICIAL MUSIC PAGE**
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Codester ╩╩ν s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1782 since: Oct 2003	Apr 06, 04 at 9:53pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote maisto quote cobra2 My God! Snake's hair is brown and Liquid's is blond, it's the end of the world oh no!!! Look, Snake had blonde hair in the original Metal Gear on MSX. In the original MGS1, Snake had blond hair during the briefing tapes. Then Snake cut his hair and dyed it so he wouldn't be confused with Liquid Snake. In this version however, Snake's hair is already cut and dyed brown during the briefing. Which means that Snake cut and dyed his during his time in Alaska. Nothing so weird about that, but I guess hair could mean the end of the world. Now i know why this topic has become very interesting. All seems to even out on who to believe he is really blonde or not.. MG2:Solid Snake One pic clearly states the guy has dark hair.. And this aint one of those friggin "its an american pic so its not reliable" crap.. Those pictures of Solid Snake were the same ones used in MSX.. You know. the one where Big Boss looks like a friggin Sean Connery and Solid Snake looks like a Bill Pullman.. MG1 for MSX and NES Bingo.. we have a winner again.. Solid Snake looks handsome dont he? and i dont see any blondie here.. Now keep in mind that i'm the guy who said screw with this friggin' thread about him being blonde or not and here i am posting a reply and proof that he aint blonde in the first 2 games.. But now the thread has definitely gone up on interest. People seem to divide here on whether him being blonde or not. WHY DONT WE ALL JUST ADMIT THAT THIS WAS JUST A CONTINUITY ERROR? BLONDE, DIRTY BLONDE, BRUNNETTE.. I MEAN CMON.. Its a friggin hair.. why is his facial hair being ignored? This message was edited by maisto on Apr 06 2004. well the game for the NES was not snake. just some guy. the only MAJOR metal gear games with snake in them are... -metal gear 2:solid snake -metal gear solid -metal gear solid 2: sons of liberty and annonymousse ( sry if i spelt that wrong ) snake isnt asian ------------------- Stolen from Paynie who stole it from Crispy_Bacon.
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wickedcapedkid Neo-newbie total posts: 1 since: Apr 2004	Apr 10, 04 at 10:31pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	For anyone who knows elementary biology or genetics let us take note that "recessive" doesn't necessarily mean "inferior". They are not synonyms in the genetic world as much as we would like to think, seeing as our brains like to perceive things in the most simplistic way possible. For those of you who have been repeatedly saying "pay attention to the story! ocelot said solid snake was inferior so therefore solid snake has recessive genes" needs to retake their high school science class. To me, it is of no surprise that Liquid is the superior(NOT the "dominant") one. While Snake is a direct clone of Big Boss, he harbors all of the same traits (thus the dominant genes). I assume that Liquid's creation was an experiment... to see if using the recessive genes would create an even stronger soldier. If liquid's creation were simply for "the hell of it" then it would be a waste of time. Liquid feels that he is a failed experiment simply because his recessive traits hold him further from being like his father, while in reality it is this differential equation that makes him that much greater.
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metalman_zero threadnought since: Mar 2003	Apr 11, 04 at 12:43am re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	well said. And that WAS the solid snake in the first mg. Not just some guy. -------------------
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WWE_Evolution s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1650 since: Oct 2003	Apr 11, 04 at 2:21pm re: Solid Snake's Hair Color
	quote wickedcapedkid For anyone who knows elementary biology or genetics let us take note that "recessive" doesn't necessarily mean "inferior". They are not synonyms in the genetic world as much as we would like to think, seeing as our brains like to perceive things in the most simplistic way possible. For those of you who have been repeatedly saying "pay attention to the story! ocelot said solid snake was inferior so therefore solid snake has recessive genes" needs to retake their high school science class. To me, it is of no surprise that Liquid is the superior(NOT the "dominant") one. While Snake is a direct clone of Big Boss, he harbors all of the same traits (thus the dominant genes). I assume that Liquid's creation was an experiment... to see if using the recessive genes would create an even stronger soldier. If liquid's creation were simply for "the hell of it" then it would be a waste of time. Liquid feels that he is a failed experiment simply because his recessive traits hold him further from being like his father, while in reality it is this differential equation that makes him that much greater. Couldnt have said that better myself lol. I totally agree with you there, its obvious from there abilitys within the game & supposed history in battle that neither are truely weaker than the other. ------------------- [Sign my G.Book]
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