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Topic: New Shadow of the Colossus video
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Jun 30, 08 at 02:03AM
New Shadow of the Colossus video

If this game isn't considered art, then I don't know what is. It is an experience that should not be missed.
WARNING- SPOILERS!!





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re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

Too many spoilers for me. I wish I hadn't seen the bridge, and Mono standing up!

It is a fantastic lookin' game though, and a lot of reviews and the like say it borders art and all.



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If this game isn't considered art, then I don't know what is.
I'm sooo sick of hearing that this game is "so art". OF COURSE IT IS. It's a media game based on camera edits, story, music, and characterization. It's called FILM. No, Roger Ebert, it's not high art because you can play the game different than what the developer wanted. But it is art because it is a metaphysical recreation of something that cannot be created in real life. YES IT IS ART. Grand Theft Auto is art. Pacman is art. Shadow of the Colossus just happens to be a different sort of art compared to other video games. Don't get me wrong, Tommy, this isn't directed at you, but there are a lot of ignorant people out there who attempt to justify their video game habits by shoving games like this and Ico down other peoples throats and saying that it is pure art, and, thus, their habit is justified by cultural and intellectual development. Video games are fun, grasping, and sometimes intelligent, but I despise anyone who attempts to shove games like this in other peoples faces for the sake of falsifying their need for "art".

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Jun 30, 08 at 07:41AM
re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

That's called being pedantic.
Technically, nothing is fake. Because the word fake implies it's not what it is, and everything that's fake is what it is.
Example: A 'fake' watch is real. It's a real watch, replica or otherwise.
But no one cares because the word fake is what it is, and it's not created to be a contradiction of itself.

It's more artsy than most games, and we don't usually need to state that because it's obvious that that's what we mean.
Do you pick on people that use the term RPG as well? Technically everything is an RPG. But we know what they mean when they call a game an RPG.



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Jun 30, 08 at 11:41AM
re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

quote Ville_Valo
Too many spoilers for me. I wish I hadn't seen the bridge, and Mono standing up!

Sorry, I should have warned about that.


quote The Ellimist
I'm sooo sick of hearing that this game is "so art". OF COURSE IT IS. It's a media game based on camera edits, story, music, and characterization. It's called FILM. No, Roger Ebert, it's not high art because you can play the game different than what the developer wanted. But it is art because it is a metaphysical recreation of something that cannot be created in real life. YES IT IS ART. Grand Theft Auto is art. Pacman is art. Shadow of the Colossus just happens to be a different sort of art compared to other video games. Don't get me wrong, Tommy, this isn't directed at you, but there are a lot of ignorant people out there who attempt to justify their video game habits by shoving games like this and Ico down other peoples throats and saying that it is pure art, and, thus, their habit is justified by cultural and intellectual development. Video games are fun, grasping, and sometimes intelligent, but I despise anyone who attempts to shove games like this in other peoples faces for the sake of falsifying their need for "art".

/rant
Everyone's definition of art is different, and most don't consider video games to be art. Shadow of the Colossus is probably the most beautiful game I've ever played. I'm just showing my opinion on the controversial subject by stating that this game is the high point in video games in terms of art. But the controversy of whether or not video games are art isn't among gamers, it's among everyone else. So I understand why my art line isn't needed here.



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Jun 30, 08 at 12:12PM
re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

Art isn't just confined to such things as canvas and crayons. Art is essentially the expression of a person's vision of a dream, or the portrayal of something that is important to them. Art at its core is expression of the mind, not just pencil strokes and paint brushes. There are many kinds of art, from sculptures to music, and paintings to plays on stage.

Shadow of the Colossus is art because it is the expression of the developers of something that cannot be found anywhere on earth; something that takes us on an emotional journey that you just can't find anywhere else.

If this isn't art, then neither is everything else.
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The video was brilliant, by the way. Just brilliant.



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re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

quote Red 9
Art isn't just confined to such things as canvas and crayons. Art is essentially the expression of a person's vision of a dream, or the portrayal of something that is important to them. Art at its core is expression of the mind, not just pencil strokes and paint brushes. There are many kinds of art, from sculptures to music, and paintings to plays on stage.

Shadow of the Colossus is art because it is the expression of the developers of something that cannot be found anywhere on earth; something that takes us on an emotional journey that you just can't find anywhere else.

If this isn't art, then neither is everything else.
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The video was brilliant, by the way. Just brilliant.
Well said, and thanks.



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Aug 16, 08 at 06:27AM
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YAY SOMEONE MADE A LINK TO MAH VIDEO...

I just made an account to say...YAY:P^_^

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Aug 16, 08 at 06:47AM
re: New Shadow of the Colossus video

quote Red 9
Art isn't just confined to such things as canvas and crayons. Art is essentially the expression of a person's vision of a dream, or the portrayal of something that is important to them. Art at its core is expression of the mind, not just pencil strokes and paint brushes. There are many kinds of art, from sculptures to music, and paintings to plays on stage.

Shadow of the Colossus is art because it is the expression of the developers of something that cannot be found anywhere on earth; something that takes us on an emotional journey that you just can't find anywhere else.

If this isn't art, then neither is everything else.
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The video was brilliant, by the way. Just brilliant.
I was the one who made the video by te way, just saying

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