i had just beaten the game twice and i noticed that there is a platform that you can reach by jumping off the horse in the secret garden. I've seen some faqs say that if you beat the games 4 times you can go to secret garden (if this is true). If you could only bring the horse up...

If you beat the game 4 times on the same safe file, then you got enough stamina to reach the secret garden by climbing the green grass that grows its way up underneath the bridge and entrance of that building.
But you can't go any further/higher then that garden.
And Agro will not be able to be in that garden with you.
That door by the bridge won't open, no matter how much you completed the game.

Yeah, if you could bring Agro up, we would be able to get higher, but unfortunatly, he is stuck grounded.

I still cant help to think that there is still some way to get higher. Maybe someone here could use exploding arrows under Wanderer, to make him go higher up or something.

quote casey963

Maybe someone here could use exploding arrows under Wanderer, to make him go higher up or something.

Wont work.
All it does is blast Wander across the area, but not higher.
And I read somewhere that the higher platforms are un-walkable.
Meaning there is no code placed there for the game character to stand on, he will just go through it.
They found that out by shooting an exploding arrow up there, and it didn't explode when toughing one of the higher platforms.

I've heard that when climbing to the Garden, you can jump off that pillar instead of climbing farther up, and get past the ledge that blocked the grabbable area from going farther. I haven't tested this yet, but it sounded promising.

Well, to tell you the truth, I tihnk this is suspicious. How does Agro gget up there at the end then?

quote Xemnas the Superior

Well, to tell you the truth, I tihnk this is suspicious. How does Agro gget up there at the end then?

The stone door stayed open after that guy with the mask left the place.

quote mtb

quote casey963

Maybe someone here could use exploding arrows under Wanderer, to make him go higher up or something.

Wont work.
All it does is blast Wander across the area, but not higher.
And I read somewhere that the higher platforms are un-walkable.
Meaning there is no code placed there for the game character to stand on, he will just go through it.
They found that out by shooting an exploding arrow up there, and it didn't explode when toughing one of the higher platforms.

I think in free-roaming games such as this EVERYTHING should be coded to walk on, whether or not you can get up there. So if a glitch occurs to let you get higher, or if you just want to see you exploding arrow exlpode on something, the coding is there for it.
Plus, they shouldn't have all that empty space on the tops of hills where you can't reach. Using exploding arrows, you can get to places where they did no terrain modelling because they didn't think you could see or get there. The ENTIRE landscape should be modelled, whether or not you can see it/get there.

Hmm. I jumped over that ledge by the pillar and you can shimmy over a little more, but then it deadends and I can't see anywhere else to jump to, except another ledge farther below that seems JUST out of reach with the CoD.

But why do we want to go up there? Sorry I just don't understand, what's up there that's so great?

bragging rights and to be l33t. it's kinda like a challenge.

Oh I see, yeah that's true.. Maybe it's more in the game that we haven't found out about yet That would be cool!

What about the seventeenth colossus?

quote Harrida-Hraddi|message:15967143

What about the seventeenth colossus?

There is no 17th Colossus.
Maybe people mistaken Wander when he changed to Dormin as the 17 Colossus at the ending.
But there is no 17th Colossus to fight against.

Woah!, you should add "spoilers".