quote Original

I'd be happy to look at the website for Epsilon on GTA IV.

Epsilon Site

and

Rockstars Official Epsilon

EuroLife should answer that.

quote EuroLife_13

About the mission itself, did anyone get, or CAN anyone manage to get perhaps a close up of the drivers face? The van can, by some be described as a 'truck', however it was gray. It was the same van on both occasions, this definitely needs more looking in to, the pink golf ball I think is misleading information.

I'm not sure I have played this mission like 5 times, I think it was only one driver and from what I saw the guy driving the van is one of those "Russian" dudes that were in the Crashes mission were you go to the warehouse were the ballas and Russians are having a deal, I'm sure every time I did the mission it was the same guy driving it.

I tried going after the van at both stops but it was impossible the van goes out of sight as soon as you start driving.
After that mission I went to the same spot where the van was to see if I could see anything out of the ordinary but no, just same shit.

When CJ asks the truth about what was that, he asks CJ if he knows what a Subdermal Neruphone is, he says no, I got the definition right here: "it's a cell phone for neurotics who wish to carry their cell phone around with them under their skin." Nothing interesting except when I was searching across this I found an article named: "The Truth" Article.

Old SA thread.

@ Enforcer872, that's a nice find the "K" in the building but nothing weird with it, I think its just a reference.

I just replayed SA and I think there's some dialogue that's worth looking into in the SF missions and Toreno missions, in SF everything starts happening; Epsilon on all Radio Stations, weird stuff, and Truth shit.

Maybe Vinewood is a point of interest, there's a cane right behind the sign, Vinewood is mentioned with Epsilon by Chris Formage and the news reporter.

It's all holding clues; Vinewood - a cane. Beacon Hill - cane and red truck. DidierSach's - A cane and where you are supposed to get the blue suit.

Also, I'm almost on my way to interdicition again.

maybe if someone gets a map of all the places where there is a cane on the game and see if anything happens?

Knock yourself out dude.

Map with weapons.

GTA edit>> I just found out something; San Fierro is heavily popoulated with canes, there are like four in a small perimiter.

okay guys i think GTA Legend is onto sommit here, i knew there was alot of canes in SF but not this many, and didn't Enforcer872 say that the Building with the K was in this area i highlited?

This where i think we nee to start searching...

EDIT: also isn't that barbers in this area i highlited who goes on about the Epsilon?

sorry to double post but i found this on wikipedia,

In the popular web series "Red vs. blue", Epsilon is the name of the AI assigned to freelancer Washington.

The thing is,

we're looking for a red[/b[b]]^^^^^ truck, and the windows and stuff in the game are blue ^^^^^^^

EDIT: Found this aswell,

"The Epsilon Program" is a mysterious cult in the video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas by Game Developer Rockstar North. This cult is thought to be based on Scientology

quote Original

What exactly am I looking for?

'jblend' stated that the 'brochure' hasn't been created yet, I think there is a large possibility that this 'brochure' is somewhere within the GTA IV in game site for Epsilon.
If not the 'brochure', then certainly something else of interest that could perhaps give us more clues.

quote GTA Legend

in SF everything starts happening; Epsilon on all Radio Stations, weird stuff, and Truth shit.

San Fierro is definitely a great point of interest. I think its safe to say we can eliminate Los Santos and Las Venturas for now, we'll check those out at another time, but I think for now we all need to concentrate mainly on San Fierro, then Mt. Chiliad, the desert and the small country towns, such as Blueberry.

We need to look into and analyze every bit of speech mentioned in the San Fierro missions, especially from 'The Truth' and Mike Toreno.


EDIT!:

I was watching on YouTube the mission "Interdiction" because I know GTALegend had his extremely strange encounter with the priest so I was looking for anything unordinarily and strange, and I saw the RV which GTALegend saw.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9pXfnNKtS4I&feature=channel

At 6:58 it first comes in our sight to the left hand side of the screen, it goes out of sight and then reappears at 7:00 and you can see it on the left as CJ drives right by it.

Its defiantly there, it wasn't a random occurrence or a loading spawn glitch, the RV is there.


This message was edited by EuroLife_13 on Dec 31 2008.

Man, I wish the GTA IV myths where this big, then I could look for them, and share findings. I want SA BACK! Anyway, I'm gonna look for any Epsilon site in GTA IV. I'll get back to you with my findings.

quote Original

So, basically, I compare the site on the internet, and on GTAIV, for differences?

Nah dude, just have a look at the in game website for Epsilon on GTA IV, because I can't, I don't own GTA IV .

Just have a look, perhaps you might come across some new information that we don't know of, and maybe the 'brochure' is there.


I was playing San Andreas earlier, just searching everything here and there, I made a few discoveries, but I wouldn't regard them as anything special.

The observatory in Los Santos:
-Why is there always someone facing the door and moves away as you approach them? also on the roof of the observatory there is always a ped facing the wall (the wall with graffiti written on) and moves away as you approach.

- When walking through the passage, at night there are 3 trees that shine a much brighter colour than any other tree, however they are the same shape and figure as the rest, they just shine blue.

- One of the trees has a completely, all white branch, the leaves are normal colour, just the branch is white.

Nothing of great interest there however the only bizarre thing I came across was on the Sherman Dam, now I apologise if this has already been spotted and posted before, however on the west side of the dam, by the road, normally a hot dog van spawns there, there is some sort of memorial statue. consisting of 2, tall green statues and an 'unreadable' script in the middle.

Now the reason why this is puzzling to me is because I remember the quote by 'jblend' about
"The MEMORIAL is for the earthquake. I promise; if you really listen, the trees will speak to you. The people of Mt. Chiliad may speak of them, also."-

Perhaps the memorial 'jblend' is talking about is this memorial on the Sherman Dam, also is there any possible way of decoding what is written on the wall?


The last thing is a wild guess and most probably has no meaning to it at all, but in CJ's moms house in Grove Street, after entering the house, on the right, above the TV, is a photo in a frame of a location somewhere in the woods, with a small dirt track road to the right, and in the distance towards the left is a light, it looks somewhat like a house. Now I know that there are around 20 different photos in frames in all of the safe houses and other locations in San Andreas, and I'm sure they don't mean a thing and they really are for decoration, there's even a photo of a 'pass' at 'dawn',
"travel through the dawn to the pass...",
but I'm sure this isn't in any way connected to Epsilon, the photo in CJ's moms house I think could be a clue.

Its the first house you can save in, its the first house you have before you can buy any other properties and its practically where you start off every time, why put a photo of a small dirt track road somewhere in the country of a small house in the background, I've also never seen this photo in any of the other safe houses, only this one. Be sure to check this out guys.

MUST READ!!!!

Edit »

Okay, so I started the missions over from the mission "Wear Flowers In Your Hair" just to get to the mission interdiction. When I got to do the mission "Interdiction" for Mike Toreno, I made sure to pay attention to all my surroundings, when I first got to the top of the mountain I saw nothing but after I blew up the Helicopters and made my way back down I saw the RV(journey) again with the same Preacher and same whore again! I took many photos with the in-game camera unfortunately I don't have a camera myself. But I promise you all if you do the mission "Interdiction" on your way back down the mountain you will see the RV I was talking about with the mysterious Preacher and Whore.

»Why Is This So Special?

This is special because it is always the same Preacher & Whore, the license plate on the front of the RV is from Las Venturas but the letters on it read backwards, and get this the side where the whore is at is LOCKED! The door can't be opened or damaged, the radio station on the RV is always K Rose. I tried this mission four times and it is the same case all four times. The RV always stops in the same place so it is not a random occurrence, the Preacher doesn't have a voice therefore he is a special ped. The whore never 'sleeps' with you even in secluded places, she never runs out of the RV regardless of how much time she is left alone or if you shoot the RV.

»Some Questions That I made to Myself.

Is this connected to Epsilon?
The place is in a 'pass' as mention in Epsilon.
Is this the 'Father' Epsilon is talking about? "Father-Father"
If I take the whore to the right location will she sleep with me and show me the way to Epsilon? "Sleep with nine new partners."
If I have a cane will I be able to give it to the Father or Whore and then lead me the way?
There are more questions but I forgot

»Evidence:
Not my video but it is someone's video if you look at 6:58 Youtube time the RV will come into view, at 7:00 too.




I think we all let this HUGE clue slide right before our eyes, we didn't even see into it, therefore if it's connected with Epsilon it's impossible to expose it.

Awesome finds guys.If you want,I could also help in the search.

I own both GTA:SA and GTA IV so I can check any in game websites or any new clue you guys give me.

Dude there is no way that is a random occurrence, I have a feeling that you might possibly be able to give the cane to either the whore or the priest, as you mentioned.
This is something huge, and we all missed this and overlooked this, which makes me think there are other mysteries, such as this, still in the game, only activated in certain circumstances such as during missions like this.
Why should this mission be the only one, though it ties up very well with Epsilon.

quote demonic sword5567

Awesome finds guys.If you want,I could also help in the search.

I own both GTA:SA and GTA IV so I can check any in game websites or any new clue you guys give me.

Can you check the in game website for Epsilon in GTA IV?
I believe it may hold new clues and possibly the 'brochure' or the 'tract'

Yeah sure.