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Jan 03, 09 at 10:31am
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Hey, sorry i havnt replied, my internets been crapping on me again (now it wont even connect, grrr) so im staying at a friends house and he has offered his time and brain to helping us find out on epsilon . I dont have much time to quote and give my thoughts, i will do that at a later date, but till then, well log anything and redo GTA:SA all over again to find anything of interest
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Special thanks to GTA_Legend and EuroLife_13 to keep the epsilon alive, I just can't believe that epsilon is still on, after 4 years and Verdant_Abyss's departure.


Where is this priest that you mentioned?


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quote Gta79
Special thanks to GTA_Legend and EuroLife_13 to keep the epsilon alive, I just can't believe that epsilon is still on, after 4 years and Verdant_Abyss's departure.
Kudos man!

If only all the old Epsilon Hunters were here to see this.



quote Gta79
Where is this priest that you mentioned?
He and a whore appears in a RV(journey) in the mission "Interdiction" after you shoot down the helicopters.


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Jan 04, 09 at 2:10am
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Hey guys, me again, I was thinking last night, maybe we are pointing in the wrong direction, i mean, mybe we taking the long way around, I mean, the priest could be a good clue, but weve prolly looked everything over, I dont know, but still, I have no further info, so, let the info flow....

Is it possible for someone to go through all the forums and write down all info so we can recallibrate?? (I know that would be a hard job, but still, it would aid us..
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There is no ingame site, that I can find...... Maybe this brosure is hidden in one of GTA IV's shops? IDK. I'll look next time I'm in burger shot, or Perseus.



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Jan 05, 09 at 3:14am
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quote Gta79
Special thanks to GTA_Legend and EuroLife_13 to keep the epsilon alive
Thanks man.


I believe that GTA IV could hold some vital clues and information.



quote Enforcer872
Hey guys, me again, I was thinking last night, maybe we are pointing in the wrong direction, i mean, mybe we taking the long way around, I mean, the priest could be a good clue, but weve prolly looked everything over, I dont know, but still, I have no further info, so, let the info flow....
We have all discovered and come across so much, I think its a case of piecing everything together, but I'm certain there are still things to be uncovered that none of us knew of. E.g this priest and the whore mystery.

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Jan 06, 09 at 1:29am
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»My post in the GTA IV CWM:

quote GTA Legend
For people who have GTA IV, does the epsilon myth exist in IV??

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for example, when you go to the perestroika there is a show where kifflom is mentioned, then on the radio in a spot you can hear a man saying "kiflom, man kifflom" and another one: "shut up". Then someone said he saw a guy somewhere in south algonquin really similiar to the possible descendant of kraff(guy with the mark on the face).

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quote Guest 2008
It's just a subtle reference to San Andreas, like Lazlow and Love Fist that first appeared Vice City. Those two are mentioned/heard/seen, but they are only references.


Another BIG epsilon thread.
quote EuroLife_13
I believe that GTA IV could hold some vital clues and information

There is one more thread containing info, I will link it tomorrow.


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Jan 06, 09 at 1:57pm
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That old thread had a lot of information and clues that have been overlooked and are fairly interesting and we could look more into those now.

I'm sure there are many references to Epsilon in GTA IV, same as there was in Vice City, however I believe the actual myth only lies within San Andreas. GTA IV can somewhere, hold a vital clue to help us on our search.

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Jan 06, 09 at 9:30pm
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I think all the clues we need is the directions by the actual epsilon site, if Rockstar made this myth for someone to find them all the info we need must be in the site made by them.

quote Epsilon Site by R*
Join us in something special and become one of the children of Kraff.

Travel through the dawn to the pass pictured in our brochures. Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender. Raise your left hand and recite the words: "Take me to to my father-father, brother-uncle. Kifflom." We'll do the rest. Because we all know, there is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised.

Blindfold required.

I think this is some sort of riddle or hidden meassage in this that we have to decypher, other members have made the mistake of the text directly "Red truck with dent in the right fender."

quote Epsilon Site by R*

1. The world is 157 years old - FACT!

2. Dinosaurs are a lie that people believe because they are weak - FACT!

3. You are happy, you just don't know it - FACT!

4. We all come from the same tree - FACT!

5. Everyone is related to everyone else, except for people with red hair - FACT!

6. Sperm does not exist - it is a lie spread by biology teachers - along with everything else you have ever been told - FACT!

7. Men are supposed to lie with nine new partners a week. Women are supposed to lie with six, except for in July, when they must lie with five men a day - FACT!

8. Aliens exist and are present on earth. If you have a birth mark, you may be descended from Kraff, the famous Emperor of the 4th Paradigm - FACT!

9. Trees talk, but only some people hear them - FACT!

10. People who believe in something live much longer than atheists, and they have eternal life thrown in for good measure - FACT!

11. If you believe this and turn you hands and wallet over to EPSILONISM, you'll live a happy life. Otherwise you are doomed - FACT!

12. KIFFLOM - HAPPINESS IS YOURS! KIFFLOM!

If you didn't know this, maybe you should read the Epsilon Tract.



quote Epsilon Site by R*

A unique American religion - expensive, promiscuous and entirely meaningless!!!

Testimonials -

"The Epsilon Tract helped me give up smack"
- Jezz Torrent

"Kifflom changed my life. I used to have a well paid job, a family and good prospects. Now, I've given that up to find real meaning in wearing light blue and proclaiming my real religion. Kifflom!'
- Jonas Ackerman, Blueberry, San Andreas

"Much better than Inversion Therapy. My mother sleeps much easier now that I've joined the fellowship. Kifflom!"
- Jeremy Smith, San Fierro

"Religion never worked for me, until now!"
- Brian Van Ginsberg, Carcer City

"I was lost. Luckily, I now go to regular meeetings of a cult group and give them lots of money, so everything is okay."
- Jane Pole, Ohio

"At first, I was nervous about giving up my identity and sleeping with all of those men, but I really enjoy it now."
- Mary Fortune, Liberty City

"Cris Formage is a genius. It's a religion without homework!"
- Morgan August, Los Santos, San Andreas.

I think these are all we need, maybe not, but I think so.

I don't think we will find any locatio or 'headquarters.' But what I think we will find is a meeting of the 'kraffs' some place(not inside a buliding), or probably the decscendent of kraff driving a truck.

I also think that "EPSILON" and "KIFFLOM" are some sort of anagram, they mention it way too much.


»Edit:

I sent an email to the official R* epsilon webmaster or whatever its called, this is what I got;

quote Email
Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com> to me
show details Jan 3 (3 days ago)

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

webminister@epsilonprogram.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1 <webminister@epsilonprogram.com>... User unknown (state 14).

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Jan 07, 09 at 12:33am
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Hey, i just read GTA Legends post, and I think shes onto something, I read the 12 tenets and the only thing without FACT! on the end is NO. 12, which states kifflom 2ce, and says


quote GTA Legend
12. KIFFLOM - HAPPINESS IS YOURS! KIFFLOM!
Maybe thats the true meaning of Kifflom, maybe he/she/its not a person afterall...

But then its states

quote GTA Legend
Join us in something special and become one of the children of Kraff.

Travel through the dawn to the pass pictured in our brochures. Look for a red truck with a dent on the right fender. Raise your left hand and recite the words: "Take me to to my father-father, brother-uncle. Kifflom." We'll do the rest. Because we all know, there is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised.

Blindfold required.
Maybe they worship happiness, so something to do with happiness

That brings me to another point, why mention three dieties (Kifflom, Kraff and Krant), when a religion only has one, but some have minor ones (e.g. christianity, God and Jesus) but in that case, why are they mentioned inplace of eachother, and not as seperate people?

Isnt there one testimonial in the fax?? Maybe it links in with this whole thing, I just cant remember at the present time, lol

Maybe, i was thinking it over, the whole search thing could all be a riddle, not a straight forward clue.. If anyones watch that episode of House where the guys by-polar, but he cant speak properly, youll know what im talking about..
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Jan 07, 09 at 3:38am
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I wander if this epilson code leads to anything wouldnt it have been found by now??, i understand how its fun looking for things like thi though



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Has anyone found anything yet?



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quote jonesoda
I wander if this epilson code leads to anything wouldnt it have been found by now??
There are still things to be discovered, I just discovered another thing, look at my new thread.

»EDIT: Removed.-GTA Legend



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Jan 07, 09 at 11:47pm
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Hey guys, umm GTA Legend, im sorry to rain on your parade, but those are only the effects of stealthing, although im not sure about the breathing, but hey, it could have something to do with it, and as ive stated before, sherman dam is a place of interest..
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on gta iv theres a radio station called PLR, and the person goes on about religion cults sometimes, and i could of sworn he said Kiffolm but i was online talking to someone so i didn't no. But that radio does go on about a cult...
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