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Topic: Secret Ending Discussion II
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Jun 11, 06 at 01:12PM
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That's why I hate Namine and Larxene. Namine made Sora think that the Oathkeeper keychain good luck thingy was hers and Larxene almost crushed it in CoM
Namine's not really bad. She was held and forced to do those SoB's' dirty work against her will.

Larxene, on the other hand, is the most horrible, disgusting, inhuman lowlife in the history of the Kingdom Hearts universe. I'm glad she's gone, an to be honest, Sora has no idea how lucky he is that he doesn't remember her.



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Jun 11, 06 at 05:05PM
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The missing guy could b a avenger. Someone who would pray for the guys who died in a keyblade war.

I think someone said that the place was wher the nobody dragon died. That means its at TWTNW right? That means the graveyard of keyblades must mean that was where the great keyblade war was.

However, who the fought against must be strong to have keyblade users die like that, or must be out numbered like heartlesses.

I have a new theory about Chasers. They are things that chase keyblade users because of hate like haunted spirits so thats why their keyblades were taken like that. The guy could want to prevent them from getting to the heros of the game and could have failed like Roxas's battle with Riku.

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Jun 11, 06 at 05:27PM
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If that's the lines, then I think they keyblade war has already happened, the fight against Xemnas could have been considered a keyblade war and that's why Mickey/kairi, Sora's, and Riku's keys are there



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Jun 11, 06 at 07:31PM
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but its not set in the past technicly its "in the past...but in the future" nomura is confusing everyone!

but if it is in the past whos to say there are no heartless? heartless are created from dark hearts and there was never a time in history that there was not darkness in people. but i could be forgetting a peice of the story but i dont remember ever seeing a place in it where it said the heartless came around from maleficent or something
but in the game or ansem reports Xenmas said it was "ansem the wises" fault that there was heartless and he created the heartless by all the expariments and studies he did.
There was proabaly a Heartless crisis in the past, and the old Keyblade masters (Note: There is a legend about the Keyblade, that means its been around for a bit) brought it to an end, and then Ansem acidentally brought the crisis back into effect.

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Jun 11, 06 at 08:46PM
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Seriously, those armors... They're completely bronze, which is a very dull color. And the design doesn't leave much to the imagination.
(Which is weird, knowing Nomura is usually great at being imaginative)



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got it from http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/KH2U

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I have a new theory thanks to this

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= Ansem's Other Report 1 =
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Many years of hard work has come to fruition; this world that I govern has
become a paradise, aptly named the "Radiant Garden".
Flowers bloom with a fragrant aroma, raised by the pure water which brings forth
life. The people pass their days with smiling faces full of hope.

But wherever there is light, doubtless there is darkness lurking. As I have
written in my recent report, I must decipher the mystery behind "the darkness in
human hearts" to protect this paradise.

Firstly, I will carry out experiments to seek out the depths of the human heart.
One of my six disciples, Xehanort, has volunteered himself as a test subject.
Since I found him collapsed in the street all those years ago and took him in,
he has become a youth who serves me well.

At that time, he had lost his memories entirely, but afterwards he began to
exhibit a remarkable inquisitive mind. He absorbed my teachings incredibly
quickly, and amassed a deep knowledge.
He is somewhat undeveloped in maturity, but this problem is due to his youth.

If I can seek Xehanort's heart through psychological experiments, I may also be
able to unlock his sealed-off past.
It seems that another of my disciples, Even, also has a strong interest in
Xehanort's memories.

But I wonder whether it is truly good that is in him.
Certainly, Xehanort possesses a rare talent...

It is far too excellent. Even surpassing that of a human.



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= Ansem's Other Report 13 =
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Sora will awaken tomorrow.
The end of my long-awaited revenge will begin.

Xehanort, who took everything away from me.
Deatroyed as a Heartless, his ambitions are once again aimed at the "great
heart", Kingdom Hearts.

His Heartless's ambition was to collect the hearts of the worlds and bring them
together to Kingdom Hearts, to call forth a great darkness. But his Nobody is
now collecting human hearts to absorb into Kingdom Hearts.

My foolish disciple.

One mystery remains.
How did Xehanort open the door that appeared below my castle...?

No...all theories are pointless now, when all things are coming to an end.

Roxas, Ansem, Namine.
You should not have existed in theory, and yet you are truly there. Special
exceptions.

The theories that I and the XIII Order have put together have been exceeded by
the owners of strong hearts.

Sora, Kairi, Riku.

Yes, Riku.
There was weakness in his heart that was exploited by the darkness, but he
defeated it with the hope that he discovered at the extremities of his
suffering, and even retained the darkness of the heart of his enemy as his own
power.
I wish from the bottom of my heart that when all of this ends, he will return to
that island with Sora.

If I can, I would also like to return to the "Radiant Garden", and once more see
the beautiful water and flowers, and the smiling faces overflowing with hope.

King, my friend.
I trust that you will see these true records that I have written.

I wanted to talk animatedly with you again.
Please forgive me, a foolish one who has become obsessed with the darkness.

xenahort aka xemans opens the door that appears under the castle the keyblade can open any kind of lock so i think xenahort was a keyblade wielder

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Jun 12, 06 at 02:17PM
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quote Lord_Riku
I have a new theory thanks to this


xenahort aka xemans opens the door that appears under the castle the keyblade can open any kind of lock so i think xenahort was a keyblade wielder
wow well spotted...that makes perect sense now that I stop and think about it...what dosentmake sense though is why other party members and NPCs can kill heartless without a keyblade. (i. e. donald and goofy.) I know its kind off topic but any ideas?

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Jun 12, 06 at 02:21PM
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quote Xanton111
quote Lord_Riku
I have a new theory thanks to this


xenahort aka xemans opens the door that appears under the castle the keyblade can open any kind of lock so i think xenahort was a keyblade wielder
wow well spotted...that makes perect sense now that I stop and think about it...what dosentmake sense though is why other party members and NPCs can kill heartless without a keyblade. (i. e. donald and goofy.) I know its kind off topic but any ideas?
This is because they also have special weapons. If you played the first one if you chose the Sword you got to keyblade, Staff the staff (I think), and shield the shield



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Jun 12, 06 at 05:07PM
re: Secret Ending Discussion II

Any powerful weapon can destroy the Heartless, whether it's a Keyblade or not.
Except probably the very powerful ones.



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Jun 15, 06 at 09:20AM
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only the key blade releases the hearts from the heartless.
Any way in Ansems reports it said that Xeahnort seemed un human maby he was a key blade weilder and then he did something bad and was forced to forget like namine tride to do to sora and then left to die in the street just a thought.



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Jun 15, 06 at 01:41PM
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quote Lord_Riku
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Nomura Tetsuya - Director and Concept Design
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"Xehanort's name has two meanings. When you spell it in Roman alphabets and rearrange them without the 'X', they'll spell 'No Heart' and 'Another'. These meanings are connected to the secret movie."

I figurerd that out straight after I got the journal entry. I think the other organization names who werent Ansems disciples spell something too...mabye something to do with kh3?

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Jun 16, 06 at 06:38PM
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Lenzo was an interesting character and may have HAD some information regarding the keyblade. First, in one of the Ansem's reports it states that Lenzo was very interested in Xehanort's abilities and was eager to unlock his past. It may not seem like muc but why would this be stated if it wasn't important. Second, before you fight him, he mentions that Sora isn't like the other wielders. This leads me to believe that he is very connected to the keyblade history.Maby it has something to do with his scar and missing eye. On a side note, when Sora fights Roxas in the world that never was, did you notice Raxas askes why did he choose you. Does that mean there is an individual that choose Sora to be he keyblade bearer. Maby he is that strange voice.

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Jun 16, 06 at 09:31PM
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First of all, it's Ienzo. Ienzo = Zexion
And the one who said Sora wasn't like other keybearers was Xigbar. Xigbar = Braig

I think the figure in the end of secret ending is Zexion coming towards them.It looks like hes whereing a cloak and
Zexion's Weapon , said by Nomura, is to be in the near future. Zexion, We are not sure if he is dead.
On the other hand the figure in the secret ending sould be Ienzo's heartless.

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Jun 17, 06 at 10:35AM
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Sorry about the name confusion. Im getting the names mixed up. Anyway, the other oragnization members such as the first five (not counting Xemnas) are very suspicious. All we know about them is that they were once Ansem's apprentices. The later members such as Saix and Axel are completly unknown. Perhaps they have some connection to this keyblade history. Briag seems the most suspisous along with Lenzo. Xehanort obviously has some direct connection to this keyblade war and most likly his role in the war is what caused it. The only thing that really bothers me is if Xehanort will return. He may be the only person to have any information. Perhaps he'll return with his memory.

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