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Apr 01, 07 at 2:27am
The Next KH Game!

I thought I'd create this thread as I've gathered numerous information about the next game, which will surely not be called Kingdom Hearts III. Nomura confirmed this in a recent interview when talking about KHII: Final Mix. Many of Final Mix's additions are linked with the next KH game in a way. You will see for yourself when the future becomes the present. Now lets move on to the essential part of this thread. This is what Nomura has confirmed so far about the next KH game:

  • A PART of the secret ending in FM+ is in some way related to the new Kingdom Hearts series.

  • The New series is NOT Kingdom Hearts III (Nomura wants everyone to understand this)

  • Nomura can not confirm whether Sora and Riku will be appearing in the next KH game.

  • The Knight who you see in the battle and ending will be in the next KH title.

    And there you have it. This is what I've found out about the next KH game. Of course it's never enough information for us Kingdom Hearts fans, but I've got Final Mix to keep my occupied for the time being.

    So what's your opinion about this? What do you think the next KH game will be of? Have you lost hope in Sora being the main character for the next game? Do you have a PS3 yet? (just kidding)



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    Apr 01, 07 at 3:39am
    re: The Next KH Game!

    ive never actually seen the movie,antone wanna describe it?



    And i think players should be able to control allies i.e Riku, Beast,Goofy...

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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Damn you ITANI. I was going to make this thread.

    However, I'll post what I was going to.

    I'm going to be n00bish and open this thread. Yes, some contents of this should be in the FM Forum, but the secret ending is after all hinting the next KH, and therefore has nothing to do with the game itself.

    BIG SPOILERS, don't lose to the urge if you have a conscience telling you not to!



    All the new videos from FM, on the latest news.

    This explains a lot. I'm sure you all figured out this already, but let me go through this thoroughly...

    After looking at the cutscene when the man and Zexion were chatting, you can tell when the Secret Ending is based on. Because the guy says: 'Years and years ago, on this earth, there were a bunch of guys with keyblades who had a big fight. When those guys disappeared, all was left was a man who lost his memory. Xemnas-no, Xenahort was found by Ansem around that time, right?' (This is only half of the cool stuff he tells us)

    This explains why Mickey has the keyblade from Yen Sid's tower in the Secret Ending...it's when he was Yen Sid's apprentice, still in training. (In other words, ages ago). I don't know how Roxas could fit into that because he wasn't supposed to be born then (Sora turned heartless in KH1), but we'll just say that's something we could theorize on. But this explains 'Xenahort's Memory...', it's the memory he lost before Ansem found him.

    None of the three knights or the old dude looked like Xenahort, so I wonder if the guy in the mask (On the old guy's side) is what Xenahort was before he was found...The other similairity in one of them is that the old guy's clothes seem similair to those Xenahort's heartless wears in KH1. Maybe they're different and my eyes have gone weird, I can't tell from all the fast and furious action.

    The other interesting thing the guy said was about the Tower from CoM..."Castle Oblivion". At this time the Organization were in search of this new base. The guy said that Xemnas didn't tell the organization that the tower was for Xemnas to find the "Room of Awakening", opposed to the "The Room of Slumber" (Where Xemnas talks to some pile of armour, whom he calls "friend"). According to this guy, there is another "friend" of Xenahort's in Castle Oblivion.

    So, what do you guys think about all the new information we got from FM? Have any theories or statements?

    Discuss.


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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Here's a video with two cutscenes from the game.

    Video.

    The first is somewhat tedious and just has Xemnas walking through the base, but at the end you get a good shot of the "friend." The second is the scene that 77 was refering to where Zexion is speaking to Vexen then probably Xigbar. The translations are in the video information.



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    Apr 01, 07 at 3:17pm
    re: The Next KH Game!

    Some very interesting points you have made there KH77, although I won't be veiwing the secret movie until I complete Final Mix and view it there. I'm currently playing it on Critical mode, but anyway I found a few more interesting points.

  • When asked when would the Kingdom Hearts series come to a close, Nomura only laughed and said "When I run out of ideas."

  • He was asked once again about Sora and Riku's involvement in the story. His response being. "I don't plan on stopping Sora's development in Kingdom Hearts III. He has a long way to go."

  • He was also asked about the three Soldiers once more, though this time it was based on the new secret ending. Nomura's response was. "All three soldiers took a while to create, I wanted to give them a Kingdom Hearts feel. Most of the knights hold no relation to any of my previous characters."

  • The next question was on Zexion's Book. "Why is it that you gave Zexion a book?" Nomura's response was "Well, the contents of the book itself contains information on certain people, that I can't reveal yet (laughs) but don't think that's the last we'll see of that book."

  • Nomura was also asked on the keyblade war, Nomura stated "I already have the concept of the story developed, but I can't reveal any information yet."

  • The interviewer's next question was onto the upcoming Kingdom Hearts III. Nomura only said, "It will not be called Kingdom Hearts III."

    Umm, how many times have people have people asked that?



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    re: The Next KH Game!

    quote ITANI
    The interviewer's next question was onto the upcoming Kingdom Hearts III. Nomura only said, "It will not be called Kingdom Hearts III."
    What will it be called? Kingdom Hearts the third? JK. See that makes me wonder if it will involve Sora and them...



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    re: The Next KH Game!

    isn't it gonna be called "kingdom hearts war of the keyblades" or somethin like that. idk.
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    I heard that if Riku,Sora, and Kairi do show up, they'll be little fairies like YUna. Paine and rikku were in kh2

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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Oohhh that'd be nasty I would hate that.

    Haha first Sora was a mermaid next hes a fairy... LOLZ




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    Apr 01, 07 at 7:46pm
    re: The Next KH Game!

    It sounds like Sora, Riku and Kairi will be in it. But I doubt they'll be fairies
    Sounds like they might just be cameo appearances.



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    Apr 01, 07 at 7:49pm
    re: The Next KH Game!

    well i hope there in it i just..wnat to know what the letter says that they got at the end of the game



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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Wow, I've looked at some cutscenes from both games, and the final mix looks hard, with the members. I just saw someone get owned by Marluxia

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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Remember Nomura might be saying There will be a KHIII, but something will come before that. We might get another GBA or DS game like CoM, but based from KHII instead.

    I don't think Sora, Riku or Kairi was even born when there was the keyblade war.

    I was thinking those three knights could be like relatives of Sora, Riku and Kairi as they look quite similair, but maybe it's just the usual Nomura design getting on to me...he also says "most of them aren't". Well, one of them's gotta have some sort of relation with SRK, right?

    Zexion becomes more and more important as the plot deepens...(By the way, that book weapon is a complete rip-off from Kuroro's weapon from Hunter X Hunter) He's probably got a lot of information about Xemnas etc, because we see him involved in talking about Xemnas's real intention.

    We still haven't figured out what Xenahort wanted to do when he was an apprentice, which Ansem stopped him from doing. Did he actually ever manage to succeed?

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    re: The Next KH Game!

    Wait... will this game be in the past or future? From what I've heard on these boards, it will be in the past, but I've heard from other places that it will be in the future. Has the setting been confirmed yet?



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    quote Narphinean
    Wait... will this game be in the past or future? From what I've heard on these boards, it will be in the past, but I've heard from other places that it will be in the future. Has the setting been confirmed yet?
    Nobody really knows. Nomura said it could be in the past, but in the future. Or something like that. But, on Final Mix + you're able to go to the location where the secret ending is to fight one of the Knights as a secret boss, so I don't think it's in the past.

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    quote Xegaldis
    quote Narphinean
    Wait... will this game be in the past or future? From what I've heard on these boards, it will be in the past, but I've heard from other places that it will be in the future. Has the setting been confirmed yet?
    Nobody really knows. Nomura said it could be in the past, but in the future. Or something like that. But, on Final Mix + you're able to go to the location where the secret ending is to fight one of the Knights as a secret boss, so I don't think it's in the past.
    Sorry, but it's blatantly the past...I found the reason in the secret ending.

    I made a report of the secret ending, which includes why this is suggested to be in the past, what happens, and translation of the words. I've wasted my time enough, so you can analyse it for yourself.

    **BIG SPOILERS**


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    Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix Secret Ending Report

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    Birth by sleep
    (Translated)The hidden true story-
    There is no coincidence in any destiny
    Kingdom Hearts
    Every destiny is meant to happen
    Those destinies remerge after a long time
    A new story waits its awakening

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    The middle knight will be named Male Knight. The Girl knight will be named Female Knight. The other will be named Roxas Knight. The Spiderman-looking guy will be named Anonymous Baddie, AB in short.

    -You see an old man walking towards the knights.
    -He splits in to two, and a Spiderman-looking man replaces one of himself.
    -Roxas Knight attempts to go, but the Male Knight stops him and charges at the old man and the AB.
    -Clearer view of old man and AB. Notice that these two dress in a similar way to those we’ve seen before. The old man dresses like Xenahort’s heartless did in KH1, and the AB has clothes which look like Ansem Riku’s from KH1, except red. The AB appears to have a keyblade; a red one, with webby patterns all over the place-which makes him look a bit more like spiderman.
    -As Male Knight jumps at them, the old man summons some earth to pelt him upwards with it. He then makes his area of land rise higher than Male Knight’s, glaring as he shoots upwards.
    -The AB jumps down, and shoots some heavy thunder-elemental magic at Male Knight. Male Knight is completely struck by it, but manages to stand ground.
    -The other two knights arrive to aid; they both run at the AB. Male Knight looks up at the old man, and runs as well.
    -The old man uses magic to make all the keyblades (Which is originally stuck onto the ground) fly upwards and form some kind of a tornado shape.
    -Roxas Knight and AB fighting. The AB uses some ice-elemental magic here. Female Knight starts towards AB, but notices the tornado of keyblades and runs away from it.
    -The AB jumps onto a flying keyblade and chases Female Knight and Roxas Knight with ice magic. They eventually fight again. You then see Female Knight using thunder magic against AB.
    -You see Male Knight running. The tornado of keyblades hit him, causing him to fall off the cliff. He managed to recover by plunging his keyblade on the wall. However, this causes a bit of the earth to fall off with him.
    -As Female Knight watches Male Knight, she is struck by the tornado of keyblades from underground. She then falls a short way.
    -The Male Knight is again hit by the storm of keyblade, sent upwards.
    -Roxas Knight runs to Female Knight, checking if she’s alright. The Female Knight recovers, and sends a jet of light upwards.
    -The Jet of light causes a barrier to protect Male Knight from the keyblades. This works for a while, but as more keyblades come flying, the barrier is blown up. Roxas Knight watches this, and runs towards Male Knight’s area. Female Knight too exhausted to do anything.
    -Male Knight is seen falling on the ground after the explosion. He then has a short fight with the old man (who also uses a keyblade), but is struck by some ice-elemental magic. You see the ice covering up the right side of Male Knight’s body, suggesting this magic freezes your body, although only the area it hits.
    -You see the old man brandishing his keyblade, which you get a better shot of. It looks like some ultimate Oblivion-looking keyblade.
    -Roxas Knight strikes the old man from behind, but the old man quickly dodges with some very fast speed. At this pause you can see Roxas Knight’s keyblade better. It seems like it can only be held with the left hand, has a short reach and looks quite simple compared to the baddies’ weapons.
    -The old man grabs Roxas Knight by the head (This is where you’ll notice Roxas Knight is quite small; he is held by an old dude’s hand by the head in the air), cracking his armour with strength. The Male Knight is taken by surprise. As Roxas Knight is held bait, Male Knight starts to run but is struck by the tornado of keyblades (again, poor guy) which appears to be the fault of the AB, as he lands next to the old guy shortly after that.
    -As Female Knight looks at Roxas Knight, you see his head’s armour breaks a bit, leaving a hole where you can see his blue eye, reflecting Female Knight.
    -The old man causes the freezing attack on Roxas with a full blow, completely freezing him. The old man then drops him off the cliff. Roxas Knight’s keyblade and armour shatters as he is dragged on the cliff wall.
    -Female Knight catches him. You then see Roxas Knight’s face, which, surprisingly, is Roxas’s face (I’ll tell you why I call him “Roxas Knight” later). As his eyes are moving he appears to be alive, but only just and clearly out of the question of continuing in battle.
    -The old man gathers energy, creating some purple energy ball on his hand. He shoots the ball up into the sky. The grey sky is broken by blue light, and you see Kingdom Hearts through the hole. The old man smirks in triumph.
    -You see Male Knight stumbling where he fell, after he was hit by the keyblades. He takes off his armour, to finally reveal his face. He has a weird hairstyle, which looks similar to, what I thought, Xenahort’s (I mean the hairstyle he has on the portrait in Hollow Bastion). Anyway, he glares at Kingdom Hearts, and as he blinks you’ll see that his eye colour changes to yellow.
    -You finally get a clear shot of where all those people were fighting. It looks like, with Kingdom Hearts floating above it (or should I say is) a past-version of The World that Never Was. And then the last shot of the secret ending is Mickey, glaring at the battlefield. He wears the clothes he wore when he visited Ansem the Wise ages ago, and carries the keyblade Sora acquires in Yen Sid’s tower.

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