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Arcanine 194
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Jul 12, 07 at 09:57PM
re: General Rate My Team Thread Version 2.0

Thats Exactly what I thought
OK here r the modifications that I made to my team
VAporeon Lv 100
Substitute
Acid Armour
Doubleteam
BAton pass
I tought
Blaziken rock slide instead of slash
Salamence Rock slide instead of Earthquake
Dragonite Brick break instead of Steel wing
And Swampert Counter instead of Protect
Coz to teach it Curse I will have to breed it and I havent got that much time I got a big match tomorrow with my cousins Man arent their pokemons in Danger all thnx to u
Ya and I modified alakazams moveset as well
Psychic
Shadow ball
Ice punch
Fire punch



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re: General Rate My Team Thread Version 2.0

Plz I need some help with a team can anyone Compose a team for me that has 2 tanks one baton passer one annoyer one special sweeper and one physical sweeper
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Plz I need some help with a team can anyone Compose a team for me that has 2 tanks one baton passer one annoyer one special sweeper and one physical sweeper
Sorry about the double post
...A rather strange request, but I'll have a shot at it.

The Baton Passer; Ninjask
Ninjask@Leftovers
Jolly Nature (+Speed, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/129 Def/129 Sp.Def
-Baton Pass
-Sword's Dance
-Substitute
-Protect

A very standard BPer from Netbattle. I've seen this thing countless times, and the only way to stop this thing is to KO it immediately, so if your cousins (or anyone else) are using something that can't do that, you're going to have a good start.
Anyway, the concept behind this is simple; immediately use Substitute, then Protect if you think your enemy is going to attack you. Ninjask's Ability boosts it's speed each turn, so even when you're fending your opponent off, you're gaining an extra stat boost for when you BP. When you've used a few Sword's Dances, and lasted a few rounds with your Substitute intact, BP to your Physical Sweeper, and I've recommended...

The Physical Sweeper; Tyranitar

Tyranitar@Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 26 HP/252 Atk/232 Speed
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Brick Break/Aerial Ace
-Rock Slide

DD is there in case your Ninjask is... Incapacitated. Alternatively, you can use one of your own Physical Sweepers (i.e. Dragonite, Salamence, Metagross etc).

First Tank; Blastoise

Blastoise@Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 210 HP/120 Def/130 Sp.Def/50 Sp.Atk
-Surf
-Mirror Coat
-Counter
-Protect

This thing is just great. Surf gives STAB, Protect lets you get another turn for Leftovers to work (or any other factor that's to your advantage, like your opponent suffering from Toxic, burns etc) and the other two require decent skills of anticipation from you.

Second Tank; Umbreon

Umbreon@Leftovers
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/129 Def/129 Sp.Def
-Mean Look
-Toxic
-Confuse Ray
-Wish/Substitute/Moonlight

Use Mean Look first, then hammer away with Toxic and Confuse Ray. Pretty simple moveset, really.

The annoyer; Crobat

Crobat@Leftovers
Jolly Nature (+Speed, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/6 Sp.Def/252 Speed
-Haze
-Mean Look
-Confuse Ray
-Toxic

Simple moveset, and if used properly, good results. Haze is an excellent move that eliminates all stat changes made by your enemy. I've seen this on NetBattle a lot; use Mean Look, then Haze, followed by either a Confuse Ray or Toxic, then switching out with another more resilient Pokemon.

The Special Sweeper; Omastar

Omastar@Leftovers
Modest Nature (+Sp.Atk, -Atk)
EVs: 136 HP/252 Sp.Atk/122 Sp.Def
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power [Electric/Fire/Dark/Psychic]
-Spikes/Toxic

...Don't see too many Omastars these days. One question you must be asking; "How's this sluggish thing going to be a Sweeper with THAT setup and Speed base stat?"
Put simply, a little help from Ninjask. Rather than being a BPer for a Physical Sweeper, you can also use Ninjask, in this case, to boost speed and pass it over to Omastar, hence why the EV spread and Nature max out Sp.Atk as much as possible. It's a choice, really; open up with Ninjask, and then you can decide whether you want Tyranitar to get involved, or Omastar here.

This message was edited by beer_drunken_ninja on Jul 15 2007.



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Jul 16, 07 at 05:51AM
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Well what if I want to use a Metagross instead of Tyranitar as a physical sweeper coz Tyranitar's Sand stream will hurt my pokemon also with the opponent and plz give me EV spreads for Metagross and also the recommended nature + the moveset so that I may use one Oh ya and thnx for all that help beer_drunken_ninja in my opinion u r the best team rater thnx
And plz click the link its a thread that I made and I need ur help on this plz do u think u can help me :Here is the link:
Stat help
PLz do help on this:confused:

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Jul 16, 07 at 09:13PM
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Well what if I want to use a Metagross instead of Tyranitar as a physical sweeper coz Tyranitar's Sand stream will hurt my pokemon also with the opponent and plz give me EV spreads for Metagross and also the recommended nature + the moveset so that I may use one Oh ya and thnx for all that help beer_drunken_ninja in my opinion u r the best team rater thnx
And plz click the link its a thread that I made and I need ur help on this plz do u think u can help me :Here is the link:
Stat help
PLz do help on this:confused:

This message was edited by Arcanine 194 on Jul 16 2007.
Metagross is absolutely fine. You can use any Physical Sweeper you want, like Groudon, Metagross, Dragonite, Tyranitar or Salamence. As for a moveset:

Metagross@Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 106 HP/252 Atk/62 Def/90 Sp.Def
-Agility
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Rock Slide/Sludge Bomb

Now, because of Agility, no EVs are needed in Speed. Just use one Agility and then begin firing away; and that's why half the EVs are in HP and defences, so you can endure a few hits and then strike back.

I'll go to the other thread now.



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OK I caught all the essential pokemons I require as u suggested:
Nincada lv 5 TIMID nature
Stats HP 18 attk 9 def 14 sp attk 8 sp def 8 spd 9
Scratch
Harden
Leech life
???
Zubat lv 4 Timid nature
Stats HP 17 attk 8 def 8 sp attk 8 sp def 8 spd 11
Moves
Leech life
???
???
???
Omanyte lv 5 Rash nature
Stats HP 19 attk 9 def 15 sp attk 16 sp def 9 spd 9
Moves
Constrict
Withdraw
Hidden power [GRASS]
???
I already have an umbreon that is not EV trained with a bold nature I think I will EV train it and I couldnt find an omanyte with a modest nature I tried a lot so I thought I will have to do with this and I also couldnt find zubat and nincada with jolly nature so I went for TIMID coz after all they arent attackers I am still hatching eggs for the bold natured squirtle and still have to get a beldum with that adamant nature
AND PLZ HELP ME ON THIS THREAD I REALLY NEED HELP:
STAT HELP



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re: General Rate My Team Thread Version 2.0

I've just answered the other thread for you.

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Nincada lv 5 TIMID nature
Scratch
Harden
Leech life
???
I suggested this:

Ninjask@Leftovers
Jolly Nature (+Speed, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/129 Def/129 Sp.Def
-Baton Pass
-Sword's Dance
-Substitute
-Protect

Timid works absolutely fine, it's the same as Jolly really. As for the moves;

-Baton Pass (Learns as Ninjask at lvl. 45)
-Sword's Dance (Learns as Ninjask at lvl. 25)
-Substitute (FireRed/LeafGreen Tutor)
-Protect (TM17)

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Zubat lv 4 Timid nature
Moves
Leech life
???
???
???
I suggested this earlier (just for reference);

Crobat@Leftovers
Jolly Nature (+Speed, -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/6 Sp.Def/252 Speed
-Haze
-Mean Look
-Confuse Ray
-Toxic

Ok, Timid is again perfectly fine.

The moves;

-Haze (Learns as Crobat at lvl. 56)
-Mean Look (Learns as Crobat at lvl. 42)
-Confuse Ray (Learns as Crobat at lvl. 28)
-Toxic (TM 06)

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Omanyte lv 5 Rash nature
Moves
Constrict
Withdraw
Hidden power [GRASS]
???
Oh, that isn't ideal. Rash (+Sp.Atk, -Sp.Def) might boost Sp.Atk, but all Pokemon need decent Defences. I really suggest you try again for a new one.

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I already have an umbreon that is not EV trained with a bold nature I think I will EV train it
Unless you've made an Eevee happy at night and evolved it by levelling up with Rare Candies, I don't see how this Umbreon would work. Remember, if a Pokemon has fought before and gained EVs, you can't remove them unless you have Emerald.



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Ok will do that look for a new omanyte and I know how to get those moves I just posted my baby team for u to confirm its IVS ok I gotta go now see u later buddy
OK I wanted to know more abt IVs I calculated the Ivs of my pokemons It really gives a low value for the desired stat so Do I calculate it now or after EV training my pokemons coz I just checked the IVs of my Omanyte and it gives these values :
HP 20
Attk 10
Def 10
Sp attk 10
Sp def 20
spd 20
So plz tell me abt it a little

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Jul 17, 07 at 02:43AM
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Ok will do that look for a new omanyte and I know how to get those moves I just posted my baby team for u to confirm its IVS ok I gotta go now see u later buddy
OK I wanted to know more abt IVs I calculated the Ivs of my pokemons It really gives a low value for the desired stat so Do I calculate it now or after EV training my pokemons coz I just checked the IVs of my Omanyte and it gives these values :
HP 20
Attk 10
Def 10
Sp attk 10
Sp def 20
spd 20
So plz tell me abt it a little

This message was edited by Arcanine 194 on Jul 17 2007.
Ok... Well, the HP stat is good, Attack doesn't make a difference, the Defence is a bit poor, so is the Sp.Atk, but the Sp.Def is fine. Speed is alright as well.
Overall, it's a mediocre Omanyte, but if you really want to make it good, you'll have to re-breed Pokemon for better IVs.

As a general rule, I aim for all essential stats to have IVs of at least 25, and non-essential (but handy) stats to have IVs of at least 20. For your Omanyte, I recommend the following:

HP: 25
Atk: N/A - No preference
Def: 20
Sp.Atk: 25
Sp.Def: 25
Speed: 20



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rate please
Lapras relaxed nature level 60
sheer clod
hydro pump
surf
ice beam
dragonite level 60
modest nature
ice beam
dragon claw
slam
safeguard
hypno level 60
quiet nature
psychic
future sight
headbutt
hypnosis
blastoise level 61
careful nature
hydro cannon
earthquake
skull bash
surf
zapdos level 61
relaxed nature
thunderbolt
drillpeck
fly
thundeer wave
rapidash level 61
quirky nature
fireblast
flamethrower
bounce
stomp
thanx:D

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Nice team, next time, try to make the post look better.Hard to read.



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any suggestions?

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Take stomp off of rabidash and sheercold off of lapras, what you put is up to you.



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thanx any one else?

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thanx again

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