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re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

There's one in the Forest Maze with a Kerokerocola, and another in there with a Red Essence.

Also, Frog Coins and flowers are quite handy imo. Frog coins save you the trouble of having to go through Midas River again and again just to buy stuff from the Emporium or the dude in Seaside, and flowers are just good to have.


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Jan 18, 09 at 5:53pm
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

Those Zappy things are called paddles and are used when someone goes into V-Fib.

I find the VC version to be pointless due to the fact I own the original and have beaten it 100% at least 6 times if not more.


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re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

quote godofgame67
Those Zappy things are called paddles and are used when someone goes into V-Fib.

I find the VC version to be pointless due to the fact I own the original and have beaten it 100% at least 6 times if not more.
First off:
You're a dick.

Just because you've beaten it at 100%, and that you have it for the SNES doesn't mean you need to say that it is completely pointless to have on the VC.

It's much easier to have the game on the VC and just take the Wii around (and only 1 system, not 2 systems like it would seem you would want to be doing) in order to play games.

Plus the VC is very useful if you never owned the game to begin with, since you would have to first find an SNES and the game (and controller) on EBay (and god knows what that would cost [about 100USD])
So instead you can pay about 8USD on the VC and play it from there instead of paying 100USD in order to have another game system lying around your house taking up space.

I've never owned a SNES, and I would much rather buy it on the VC than to buy a SNES and then have something else that I have to keep track of while at college (things have a bad habit of going 'poof' for a few days at a time if your not paying attention to them ).

Anyways, back to the OP.
I haven't decided if I want to play this game. I'm not sure if I like the idea of timed hits, but the rest of it seems very interesting.
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Jan 20, 09 at 8:35pm
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

quote Mazeura
First off:
You're a dick.

Just because you've beaten it at 100%, and that you have it for the SNES doesn't mean you need to say that it is completely pointless to have on the VC.

It's much easier to have the game on the VC and just take the Wii around (and only 1 system, not 2 systems like it would seem you would want to be doing) in order to play games.

Plus the VC is very useful if you never owned the game to begin with, since you would have to first find an SNES and the game (and controller) on EBay (and god knows what that would cost [about 100USD])


First off:
What amazes me is you actually believe I care.

Secondly:
You need to learn to read or else your going to fail collage.
I stated that I find the VC version to be pointless due to the fact I own the original. I didn't say it was useless to everybody else. In fact, I'm glad it's on the VC so other players can have a chance to experience it.

Thirdly:
It wouldn't cost $100 USD because if you go to any electronics store that's been open since before 1992 odds are they got one in the basement for cheap. I got mine from one for $40 USD. (Of course I already owned all the games because I purchased them at full price when they were released witch was kind of stupid considering I could get them now for much cheaper and.....sorry lost my train of thought).

Fourthly:
I take back my previous accusation stating that I beat the game 100% because upon reflection I missed some of the hidden chests and never did 30 Super Jumps in a row.

Fifthly:
The Timed Hits are so easy my brain figured them out and was killing final bosses when I was 5 years old.
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Jan 20, 09 at 9:08pm
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

Well, Maz, you got your reply. Crazy fool...

First off,
godofgame, welcome to Neo. Hope you enjoy the community and stay awhile.

Now that that's taken care of, some learning. Need I remind you,
gog, this is The Internet. You don't get any brownie points, respect, friends, or anything for being pompous and high & mighty. Coming on a site and saying that you're amazing because you beat a game x number of times just bores people. I've beaten the game on the SNES easily 15 times back in the day, with another two completions atm on the VC. That doesn't make me any better at the game than you, it just means I allocate more time to it than you have.

Also, if you can honestly find me a copy of SMRPG in a store somewhere for less than $50, I'll find you a store that doesn't know the value of that cartridge. I'm surprised
Maz could find one packaged with a system and SMW for $100, frankly.

You meant 100 Super Jumps, right? Because that's how many you need to land to get the Super Jacket... 30 only get you the Attack Scarf.

And I don't think
Maz meant he doesn't understand them, just that they're a potentially unnecessary gameplay mechanic (I think they're great, but I can see his point).

(One more thing: college is the correct spelling)



Oh right, the OP. Like
Maz said, I'm all for this getting on the VC. Saves me the trouble of keeping my SNES nearby. If all the great SNES games could make it to the VC, that would be wonderful. I mean, the classic controller is obviously fashioned from the SNES controller, so I can't see any possible argument for not 'porting' those great games.


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Jan 21, 09 at 1:01am
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

quote zarbityugi
Well, Maz, you got your reply. Crazy fool...

First off, godofgame, welcome to Neo. Hope you enjoy the community and stay awhile.

Now that that's taken care of, some learning. Need I remind you, gog, this is The Internet. You don't get any brownie points, respect, friends, or anything for being pompous and high & mighty. Coming on a site and saying that you're amazing because you beat a game x number of times just bores people. I've beaten the game on the SNES easily 15 times back in the day, with another two completions atm on the VC. That doesn't make me any better at the game than you, it just means I allocate more time to it than you have.

Also, if you can honestly find me a copy of SMRPG in a store somewhere for less than $50, I'll find you a store that doesn't know the value of that cartridge. I'm surprised Maz could find one packaged with a system and SMW for $100, frankly.

You meant 100 Super Jumps, right? Because that's how many you need to land to get the Super Jacket... 30 only get you the Attack Scarf.

And I don't think Maz meant he doesn't understand them, just that they're a potentially unnecessary gameplay mechanic (I think they're great, but I can see his point).

(One more thing: college is the correct spelling)



Oh right, the OP. Like Maz said, I'm all for this getting on the VC. Saves me the trouble of keeping my SNES nearby. If all the great SNES games could make it to the VC, that would be wonderful. I mean, the classic controller is obviously fashioned from the SNES controller, so I can't see any possible argument for not 'porting' those great games.
1.
I spent over an hour thinking of a reply to this. There isn't one except that you are right. If it seemed like I was acting like I jerk I apologize. That wasn't my intention. If I don't want the people here to burn my house down I need to take on a better attitude. thank you for bringing that to my attention.

2.
I found a copy at a store called Slackers for $40. The place over charges on everything so that fact that the price is low comes as a surprise to me.

3.
I didn't even know it was possible to get 100. I've never got past 23.

4.
Your probably right.

5.
Trying find the appropriate response to this has caused my hand to cramp.

6.
What's the deal with the whole welcome? are you like a moderator or a webmaster or something?


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Jan 21, 09 at 1:36am
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If I was a mod, I'd have a 'moderator' tag under my name (look back at the first page of this thread - Gotenks is an example of a mod). I just know that a good welcome improves the chance of people staying and hanging around a forum... and that's a good thing. More people to post leads to better discussions, more ideas, more variety, etc.

I've just found that being a little bit humble, and generally being a nice person, will get you significantly further with people than treating them like they're beneath you. (correct spelling and grammar also help, because it shows that you respect your reader(s) enough to make your post easy for them to read)

I haven't ever gotten more than 20-something jumps myself, I just know that there are items to get if you are ridiculous at it.


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Jan 21, 09 at 2:20am
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quote zarbityugi
I haven't ever gotten more than 20-something jumps myself, I just know that there are items to get if you are ridiculous at it.

I've found that while it takes some degree of skill to get 30 or 100 jumps, 90% of it is a lot of time and a huge amount of luck.

For some reason, I tend to do better at it if I close my eyes. Is it just me or is that weird?


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Jan 21, 09 at 8:11am
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

Oh no.

You think I might fail collage. Oh whatever will I do? Some one on the internet is angry with me!

Well, firstly from how you stated that you find the VC version pointless you made it sound like it was pointless for everyone. If you had said something to the lines of this, it would not of been the case:
"I find buying the VC version to be pointless because I already own both the SNES and the game, have beaten it at 100% at least six times already, so I do not see a reason that I would need it for the Wii as well."

Second, I have never heard of Slackers until now. I'm sorry that I don't live in Illinois, but that's not something that I would let happen to me anyways (no that's not an affront to you, just I don't like Illinois for some reason. Been through there several times and its never a really ... pleasant experience.)

Thirdly, not beating it 100% isn't something that I'm going to fault someone with. If I had beaten all of my games 100%, I probably would be really really fat right now. XD

Fourthly, it's not that the timed hits are hard, its that I have a problem with them fundamentally. I guess it has something to do with how I think that if your going to have timed hits in a game, it would be a fighting game and not on a RPG.

Fifthly, it took an hour to think of a reply? Did I have you that flabbergasted that you were textless? (Hehe, sorry for the horrible play on words there.)

Sixthly, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your internet browser went crazy and when you spell-checked college it thought you meant collage.

Now, to the topic!

It might be because you "give" yourself a faster reflex when you only listening for a sound and reacting to that compared to looking and ending up anticipating the motion of Mario and end up doing it too early/late.


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quote zarbby-boy
I've just found that being a little bit humble, and generally being a nice person, will get you significantly further with people than treating them like they're beneath you. (correct spelling and grammar also help, because it shows that you respect your reader(s) enough to make your post easy for them to read).
Meen j00 tat spellong rightly what we're tyring 2 do!? Ohemgee!

;p

Oh, and I just checked on Slacker's site and I can't find SMRPG online. So it probably is a local store that only has it.
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Jan 21, 09 at 2:38pm
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quote Mazeura
You think I might fail collage. Oh whatever will I do? Some one on the internet is angry with me!
Your better then me because I'm a certified high school dropout.

quote Mazeura
Second, I have never heard of Slackers until now. I'm sorry that I don't live in Illinois, but that's not something that I would let happen to me anyways (no that's not an affront to you, just I don't like Illinois for some reason. Been through there several times and its never a really ... pleasant experience.)
I hate this place too. It's the most boring state you'll ever drive through in your life.



quote Mazeura
Thirdly, not beating it 100% isn't something that I'm going to fault someone with. If I had beaten all of my games 100%, I probably would be really really fat right now. XD
Yeah, unlike some people out there I actually have other things to do besides play games until my eyeballs bleed.
There is no 100% completion marker or meter so you never really know if it's 100% completed.

quote Mazeura
Fourthly, it's not that the timed hits are hard, its that I have a problem with them fundamentally. I guess it has something to do with how I think that if your going to have timed hits in a game, it would be a fighting game and not on a RPG.
Okay, it's time someone explained exactly what timed hits are. (Note: you see enemies on screen through out the game and you touch them to engage a battle you are not allowed to attack them until the battle starts). In any old RPG, you select a target to attack and your character runs up and attacks it with say a sword for instance. In this game, if Mario attacks with say a hammer he will hit the enemy with the hammer once. BUT, if you press A as soon as he hits the enemy, he will hit them a second time and deal more damage. The same rule applies for every attack. (Press A after the first punch, etc). there are some cases where you press Y instead of A (Y is for Special Attacks) but those are easy to tell apart when you start playing. It's a very simple concept, it just sound like a pain the @$$.

quote Mazeura
Fifthly, it took an hour to think of a reply? Did I have you that flabbergasted that you were textless? (Hehe, sorry for the horrible play on words there.)
Hate to burst your bubble but your reply took about 5 minutes. It was zarbityugi that took me an hour to think of one for.



quote Mazeura
Sixthly, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your internet browser went crazy and when you spell-checked college it thought you meant collage.
My browser really does think College is spelled c-o-l-l-a-g-e. It's weird, but true.

quote Mazeura
P.S.

quote zarbby-boy
I've just found that being a little bit humble, and generally being a nice person, will get you significantly further with people than treating them like they're beneath you. (correct spelling and grammar also help, because it shows that you respect your reader(s) enough to make your post easy for them to read).

Meen j00 tat spellong rightly what we're tyring 2 do!? Ohemgee!
Once you got good grammar ain't nobody can't never change it.


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Jan 21, 09 at 9:48pm
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What browser are you using? Please don't say firefox, or I'm going to have to slap my browser because there's a version of it being *bleep*. XD

I've seen the game played, and I've seen the difference between a timed and non-timed hit. I just don't like a game that has you half-actively play it.

If its going to be turn based, let it be you hit attack and then it attacks, and that's it. If you want it to be interactive, have it be something like Tales of Symphonia.

I know that its weird, but I can't help it, that's just how I feel.

quote gog
Yeah, unlike some people out there I actually have other things to do besides play games until my eyeballs bleed.
qft

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Oh, by the way, welcome to Neoseeker. ^.^
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Jan 21, 09 at 10:47pm
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It does make some sense, though. If you don't get decent at timed hits, the game is significantly more difficult. But once you get the hang of them, your characters live for a good bit longer (taking half damage on normal attacks makes a huge difference... especially when sometimes you'll get it right on and take 0).


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quote Mazeura
What browser are you using? Please don't say firefox, or I'm going to have to slap my browser because there's a version of it being *bleep*. XD
My browser is Firefox. Aside from some spelling errors, it works fine for me every time. If your having problems with it, go to the website and download the new version if you haven't already.

quote zarbityugi
It does make some sense, though. If you don't get decent at timed hits, the game is significantly more difficult. But once you get the hang of them, your characters live for a good bit longer (taking half damage on normal attacks makes a huge difference... especially when sometimes you'll get it right on and take 0).
Also, timed hits make feel like your contributing more to the fight then just picking a command from a menu. You actually feel like your a part of it and that greatly helps the immersion aspect of the game.


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Jan 22, 09 at 12:26pm
re: SMRPG now on Wii VC (*Takes Those zappy thing doctors use to shock people* CLEAR! *tries to revive the fourm*)

I have the newest version of FF.

And as for the immersion factor, I prefer storyline > game gimmicks.

And from what I've seen, the storyline from SMRPG isn't that great. (Then again, what Mario game really has a good story line? )

And that's the main reason why I love games like Tales of Symphonia and Lost Odyssey (which I like enough to buy a 360 just for that game. That's the only game in my life that has made me want to buy the system for it so that I can play it.)
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FF = Firefox. /facepalm

He probably doesn't need to buy it, he can play my copy anytime he wants (assuming he can get into the room).

My only real problem with SMRPG is that it's so linear. You have one goal - get the next star piece. There really isn't much to do aside from work towards that goal. (yeah, there are 'sidequests', but they need to be done in some degree of an order along the storyline as well... you can't beat Jinx's third battle much before you take on Valentina, Culex has to be saved for the point where you're ready for Smithy)


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