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 Darknet
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 Jun 25, 09 at 4:32pm |
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This guy is the toughest I've ever fought. Not for the fact that he is tough but for the fact that he has such a high chance of getting a critical.
It's not a problem to kill him. The problem is doing it without killing my characters. So far, I have not lost a person. But every time I attack he just gets a critical. Only way I can attack him is to use Rolf and a longbow but the hit chance is only 60. Maybe if I use Gatrie and his tank abilities? ------------------- | |
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Jun 25, 09 at 6:08pm |
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Chapter 18 boss is a sage with wind magic who usually has poor critical?
Are you perhaps referring to Chapter 19's swordmaster with that sonic sword? ------------------- | |
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Jun 25, 09 at 6:20pm |
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Yeah the sword master, my bad.
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Jun 25, 09 at 6:33pm |
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Okay, he's really easy if you have spellcasters. Put simply, he doesn't move, so just position your spellcaster at range to pound him with magic. Since the sonic sword attacks using magic he won't cause much damage against your high res spellcasters even if he does critical.
If Reyson is in play (and he should be if you're planning on having the crows leave) then he can chant one of them to attack more times, but make sure you keep healing. ------------------- | |
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Duncan Idaho The Top General of The Atriedes Forces
Neolithic   total posts: 6233 neopoints: 108 since: Dec 2007 |
 Jun 26, 09 at 12:40am |
quote Darknetmy strategy was traingle attack. -------------------  Join GoBad Chaos commanders Join Time Warp Join the Star meteor clan | |
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Jun 26, 09 at 1:34am |
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I just have to surround him to do that, right?
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Duncan Idaho The Top General of The Atriedes Forces
Neolithic total posts: 6233 neopoints: 108 since: Dec 2007 |
Jun 26, 09 at 2:51am |
quote Darknet put oscar and boyd to one square away from the boss and let rolf initiate the attack, in the end rolf is way better than shinoh, by the tiem shinoh is back he is underleveled and unpromoted, so the brother attack will make easy work of him + its one fo the few bosses that you can actually apply the attack, i wish i could do the same with a future boss, thats not so far away and it isnt the @@@@@. i wont spoil it. ------------------- Join GoBad Chaos commanders Join Time Warp Join the Star meteor clan | |
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Seeketh Maximus    total posts: 5972 since: Aug 2007 |
 Jun 26, 09 at 7:32pm |
quote Duncan IdahoUnderleveled sure. But he isnt Underpremoted. He starts out promoted. IMO I think Shinnon is better considering he's less work than Rolf to train, and their stats are so marginally different, Id choose shinon any day over Rolf, Not to mention shinon is one of the best characters in RD so if you want transfer data, shinon is the way to go. -------------------  | |
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Duncan Idaho The Top General of The Atriedes Forces
Neolithic total posts: 6233 neopoints: 108 since: Dec 2007 |
Jun 26, 09 at 7:40pm |
quote Old Man Zangetsureally i always understood that he came as an archer, i havent palyed this game in a long while. but by the time shinoh gets in rolf is probably near max stats, anyway rolf is wonderfull because he can inititate a triangle attack, along with marcia, if its still POR. ------------------- Join GoBad Chaos commanders Join Time Warp Join the Star meteor clan | |
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Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5972 since: Aug 2007 |
Jun 27, 09 at 12:04am |
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The triangle attack is nice, but severly unessary.
I mean, if you need that attack you're prolly screwing up somewhere. quote Duncan IdahoNope, thats Rolf, hence why Shinon leaves, quote Duncan IdahoIf you go through the struggle that is leveling him up to the point, Its harder done than said. Thats the only real difference between shinon and Rolf. Which one is more work? which one rquires babying? That is undoubtably Rolf. And for the unessary work you put into rolf you get.... Wow you get pretty much nothing. For starters 1-2 points in a few stats is just plain nothing. The triangle attack only works with both oscar and boyd and I believe all three must be using bows? Finally Rolf isnt a frontline unit. Oscar and Boyd are. Even risking putting Rolf on the frontline is a horrible choice, His craptastic defenses, not to mention in POR archers suck big ones anyway. So neither Rolf or Shinon are all that good to begin with, lol. ------------------- | |
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Duncan Idaho The Top General of The Atriedes Forces
Neolithic total posts: 6233 neopoints: 108 since: Dec 2007 |
Jun 27, 09 at 12:52am |
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i have been lucky in off that my rolf always ends as a ebast in any part
 , overall in RD, he usually beats shinoh by a lot, i BEXP train, etc., so rolf ends getting high general stats, shinoh always end maximizing skill, haing low STR, speed, and less DEF and RES and luck..., my shinoh sucks.------------------- Join GoBad Chaos commanders Join Time Warp Join the Star meteor clan | |
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Jun 27, 09 at 10:57pm |
quote Old Man ZangetsuJust to clarify, Rolf's defences aren't actually bad (once he's caught up of course - nobody would expect Lv1 Rolf to be tanking on the chapter he joins). 20/1 we're looking at about 32 HP and 14 Def. Nephenee has 32 HP and 15/16 Def. Marcia has 33 HP and 14 Def. Astrid is 34 HP and 14 Def. They're not great but they aren't the reason Rolf doesn't frontline. It's his inability to hit anyone back sans other bow users that relegates him to the backlines. It's not worth giving the enemy any more free hits than they already get with their ranged attackers. Of course, I don't feel the effort to have him catch up is worth it regardless. Only good primary bow user in PoR is Astrid, because move again is hax, paragon is hax and she can opt for axes when she promotes anyway and leave behind the weakness the snipers are stuck in. ------------------- | |
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Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5972 since: Aug 2007 |
Jun 28, 09 at 2:18am |
quote Duncan IdahoI've been talking about POR, And Shinon is better than Rolf hands down. You cant honestly debate that. He starts useful and ends even more useful. Even w/o BEXP abuse, ------------------- | |
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Duncan Idaho The Top General of The Atriedes Forces
Neolithic total posts: 6233 neopoints: 108 since: Dec 2007 |
Jun 28, 09 at 2:47pm |
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the samew things happens POR, old man zangetsu , rolf is usually alreday at max level capping speed, and shinoh comes to low level so i dont train him, i dont remember his level, b ut babysitting rolf its productive.
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Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5972 since: Aug 2007 |
Jun 29, 09 at 3:19am |
quote Duncan IdahoMy last post was in reference to RD. So I have no idea what youre talking about in your last post. Rolf vs Shinon (POR) Tie Rolf vs Shinon (RD) SHINON HANDS DOWN lol. ------------------- | |
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