In reguards to the last chapter and the trial maps, who is the best healer? I had seen some topics about Mist and Rhys, but none of them included Elincia. Since we now seem to be revalutating many characters, I think and evaluation of them is over due. Here are stats (Hope it shows up right)

Crimean Princesses
Stat Maximums HP 60 Str 20 Mag 25 Skl 26 Spd 27 Luck 40 Def 27 Res 25

Elincia Level 1 HP 27 Str 9 Mag 12 Skl 16 Spd 18 Luck 15 Def 11 Res 15
Growth: HP: 60% Str 30% Mag 80% Skl 45% Spd 40% Luck 60% Def 25% Res 35% Average Stats at 20/10 HP 32.4 Str 11.7 Mag 19.2 Skl 20.05 Spd 21.6 Luck 20.4 Def 13.25 Res 18.15
Average stats at 20/20 HP 38.4 Str 14.7 Mag 27.2/25 Skl 24.55 Spd 24.6 Luck 26.4 Def 15.75 Res 21.65



Priest/Bishops
Stat Maximums HP 60 Str 20 Mag 29 Skl 22 Spd 25 Luck 40 Def 20 Res 30

Rhys Level 4 HP 22 Str 0 Mag 10 Skl 8 Spd 5 Luck 8 Def 0 Res 14
Growth: HP 40% Str 5% Mag 60% Skl 50% Spd 40% Luck 50% Def 25% Res 55%
Promotion bonuses: HP +3 Str +1 Mag +3 Skl +2 Spd +2 Def +2 Res +3
Average Stats at 20/0 HP 28.4 Str 0.8 Mag 19.6 Skl 16 Spd 11.4 Luck 16 Def 4 Res 22.8/20
Average Stats at 20/10 HP 35 Str 2.25 Mag 28 Skl 22.5 Spd 17 Luck 20.5 Def 8.25 Res 27.95
Average stats at 20/20 HP 39 Str 2.75 Mag 34/29 Skl 27.5/22 Spd 21 Luck 25.5 Def 10.75 Res 36.25/30



Clerics/Valkeries
Stat Maximums HP 60 Str 20 Mag 26 Skl 24 Spd 26 Luck 40 Def 20 Res 29

Mist Level 1 HP 16 Str 1 Mag 4 Skl 4 Spd 7 Luck 6 Def 2 Res 7
Growth: HP: 50% Str 35% Mag 50% Skl 25% Spd 40% Luck 60% Def 15% Res 40%
Promotion bonuses: HP +3 Str +2 Mag +4 Skl +1 Spd +3 Def +3 Res +2
Average Stats at 20/0 HP 25.5 Str 6.65 Mag 13.5 Skl 8.75 Spd 14.6 Luck 17.4 Def 4.85 Res 14.6
Average Stats at 20/10 HP 33 Str 12.8 Mag 22 Skl 12 Spd 21.2 Luck 22.8 Def 9.2 Res 20.2
Average Stats at 20/20 HP 38 Str 16.3 Mag 27/26 Skl 14.5 Spd 25.2 Luck 28.8 Def 10.7 Res 24.2

Theres a reason no one includes Elincia.

And if you look at the teir list you would find the debate about them there. If you wanna debate this go and look at it first.

I just checked out the tier list, and the arguement I saw was that she needs bexp to train her up from level ??/1. Depending on how you play, this isn't really an issue. Some players don't decide who their going to have on thier team before they play. They might not have suffence bexp to raise her up to a decent level. Others who plan on who they will use can make sure they won't be using underleveled units like Mist, Rhys (to a degree),Sothe, Ena, Rolf, Tormod, Shinon, etc. We have already determined that archers aren't good in this game and there is at least one better mage than Tormod. Volke is better than Sothe. Notice that many of these units are low on the tier list. The only ones left that would need the bexp is mist, rhys and elincia. Now if Mist and Rhys can that get bexp, why can't Elincia? Think that Elincia is ultimatly better for vertan player who can plan out who they're going to use, and who the bexp is going to. Mist is better for players who sorta know what they're going to do, and Rhys is the best for newer players. From that perspective, bexp isn't a problem.

As IP stated above, the problem is that she comes late at Lv. ??/1.

It's easier to give Mist or Rhys the BEXP because they're there for most of the game. It's not really productive to use BEXP on Elincia, if she's just gonna be in the party for a meager 3 chapters.

None of this means that Elincia doesn't deserve BEXP. You simply can't compare her need for it to Mist or Rhys's need for it, because Mist and Rhys join in the middle earlygame, and Elincia in the late lategame.

It all depends on how you play, though - I don't plan out my party (since everyone turns out differently every time you play), and as such I don't plan my BEXP usage. What I use it for is:

*If someone needs, say, 5 EXP to level up.
*Occasionally on units that did not get to fight in the last chapter
*To go from Lv20 to Promotion (waste of time and weapons, that).

...And so, who "needs" it more does not factor into my usage of BEXP. Elincia only gets it if I decide to use her on the spot, which is rare for me. Again, all in how you play.

Yep thats true. Same deal with Ena and Nasir. The amount of bexp they need is too great anyway. Rhys is the most useful if you like conserving bexp. Elincia is the worst next to Ena.

It all depends. After my first playthrough I start to plan out teams so I see what you mean but there's no need for it. Besides Mist is the same thing as Elincia for the most part anyway.

quote Old Man Zangetsu

Same deal with Ena and Nasir. The amount of bexp they need is too great anyway.

Ike: Nasir, you're too low of a level and you'll take up way too much bxp from the team.

Nasir: I'M LEVEL 18 FOR ASHERA'S SAKE.

Mist would with her Magic cap of 30. Rhys's magic cap is only 29 (for some strange reason).

I didn't mean Nasir takes up a lot. And Mist is less likely to cap than Rhys mainly because her str stat takes some of it.

Sorry. My bad XD I have no idea where I got 30 from. I was so certain it was 30, too.

This is a stupid argument, the subject is healers and now were talking about nasir and ena.

THE TRUTH!

Good things about the three healers.

Rhys: Turns into a bishop and can use light magic which is extremely powerful cause his magic is so high.

Mist: Turns into a valkeyrie, meaning if you forge an Iron sword with the best stats possible, owns. But she's only an Anti-mage. Meaning shes only good for killing Magic users, which helps at the chapter with the black knight when the priests come.

Elincia:

She is an airborne valkyrie. She helped me alot at the last chapter, I kept her and reeson at the back and I gave all of my healers a physic. So that she was able to heal everyone with her long range movement.
Shes also a anti-mage.

BAD THINGS ABOUT ALL HEALERS!

Rhys: Is only a healer, and takes awhile to lvl up into a bishop unless you waste BEXP and a nice master seal.

Mist: Comes in at lvl 1, and she sucks at healing. And because she turns into a valkyrie, her defense stinks.

Elincia: You can only use her for like 4 chapters, meaning you have no time to lvl her. And her att stinks, like I said, only Anti-mage!

Personally I like Rhys because of the light magic.

I like mist because she looks cool on her horse.

And my favorite is elincia cause she is HOT HOT HOT!

Honestly, all I really require from my healer is the durability to occasionally step up and risk an attack or two in order to make a timely heal. Rhys requires the least BEXP to get to that point so I tend to favor him ever so slightly if I'm using a team larger than 10 characters. It's a tough call though; between the movement bonuses and better supports, I can see why people would prefer Mist (especially if working with a small enough team to reliably have no experience worries), and I must admit I basically use her and Rhys interchangeably from game to game; it's hardly a big enough difference between the two to really get worked up about.