Boy oh boy who ever thought up the plot for this game is a genius listen to this

I think sweet tooth calypso markus kane charlie kane and his some are alll related because in twisted metal 3 markus kane is a homeless man or something who wants his sanity back. If you desipher minions messege in tmb, he says his real name is markus Kane. Obviously charlie kane and son and sweet tooth are all realated. But sweet tooth and calypso might be the same person because they sort of resemble each other but if not he could also be related to everyone else. In minons code, he also states that none of this is real and its all in "his" head.

And what about Black?...I mean his only purpose for getting in the contest is just to kill Calypso...and he says that he knows Calypsos's weakness

Sweet tooth and Calypso are indeed related but there not the same person.

charlie kane is a father of Nedles Kane(sweet tooth) and Calypso is Charlie's brother and sweet tooth's uncle!!!

Charlie Kane: Minion, and Sweet Tooth and "Roadkill"'s father.

Needles Kane: Sweet Tooth, and his "Alter ego", Calypso. How can he be two people? Because all of it it takes place in Needles' mind. Anything can happen. He's insane.

Marcus Kane: Sweet Tooth's little brother, who because of all his lost family relations, and lack of education...Becomes a poor man begging for money.




That pretty much sums it up...

"he said it was in my blood."

This line, spoken by the taxi driver's son (charlie Kane) means something. It does not necessarily mean sweettooth and calypso are related, it coul djust mean sweettoooth and charlie kane's son are related (which they are).

People interpret as Calypso is related to them, but that is not necessarily true. He could have simply just wanted sweettooth to run the contest (he liked his attitude). But since he died, he wanted kane boy, because he had sweettoooth blood in him.

What of Darktooth from TM2 then? Where is his part in all this?

I have heard alot of thing about sweettooth and his family mostly from the playstation games.

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What of Darktooth from TM2 then? Where is his part in all this?

marcus and needles are the same person. while i dont deny that minion was once a kane, i doubt he was really marcus. i think that minion is the demon that calypso stole his powers from when he returned to the land of the living. charlie is the father, marcus/needles is the older, and minion was the younger. by saying its in your blood i think charlie was referencing to needles. every eldest (in my theory) kane in each generation 'inherits' needles. needles apparently has competed in every tm, and there are various suggestions that tm has been going on for many years, and the driver of dark tooth is actually marcus and needles united (that last bit is 100% true it says so in HO)

sorry for double posting, but i cant help it. i think charlie kane is the father, and marcus is his son. And those that have played Twisted Metal Lost (sort of a demo playable in TMHO:ETE) know that Charlie Kane and his dead father (Marcus' grandfather) team up with the hopes of killing the original sweet tooth (Marcus' uncle) then kill themselves to end a long line of killers and psychopaths. so my theory is that the craziness of sweet tooth runs through the bloodline, and after the original's death, marcus looses it and becomes the next sweet tooth. this all possible because TMB and TML take place in the past, most likely before marcus was born. this would explain the 'it runs in your blood' and also how needles (sweet tooth) has managed to compete in EVERY Twisted Metal (in the story there have been many, many years of it in succession)

Darktooth from TM:black and TM2 cannot be the same. Tw:black's description of Darktooth, is that Marcus and Needles become one- Marcus is overcome by his evil, alter-ego Needles Kane. Whereas Darktooth from TM2 is Needles' father... which i presume from this thread is Charlie kane.

I am having real trouble with TM:black. Is there meant to be a unique, storyline movie for each character after you beat War-hawk? Because on my game, there is no wish-granting. Only a brief cutscene of the car going down a road. ROLE ON CREDITS. And no ending cutscence. Is that correct? Or is my disc faulty or something?

This is a very interesting thread. I can't believe I never noticed this before. TBH I've never really given this alot of though but there is one mistake that I've seen repeated throughout this thread. You can't link TM:B to anything other than Black. Black exists in an alternate universe that must be kept seperate from TM1 and 2 and god forbid should anyone include 3 and 4.

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I am having real trouble with TM:black. Is there meant to be a unique, storyline movie for each character after you beat War-hawk? Because on my game, there is no wish-granting. Only a brief cutscene of the car going down a road. ROLE ON CREDITS. And no ending cutscence. Is that correct? Or is my disc faulty or something?

Damn man did someone pee on your disk? Something is seriously wrong all the characters have epilouges.

You can download all of the ending movies here---->

http://tmalliance.com/movies.shtml

and just for fun-->

http://www.feanor.net/z0r/shock/whiteblack.swf

Well i did buy TM:Black online... they gave me the wrong disc. Then i took it back and got the original. It's scratched... But no endings? DAMN!!! I have the European version (obviously, i live in the UK), would that make a difference? seriously. I played it all along and the endings are non-existant, i thought there wasnt any, and i always wondered that the game was total cack. Storyline wise. Any solutions? Scratch removal?

Thanks for your help. And thanks alot for the link to all the vids. A great help!

I found out that my disk is fine. The PAL version of Twisted metal: black has had all the cutscenes removed. Damn!!! i thought i could buy the game again (hopefully in better condition this time!) and complete it with everyone again. But the movies arent available for people in UK and the rest of Europe! Oh well...

I thank you again, OutOfOrder, for the vids!

If you play twisted metal black and twisted metal head on you figure out minions real name is marcus kane. sweet tooth and marcus kane are the same person. charlie kane is marcus/sweet tooths father. the kid who controls charlie kane in tmb is marcus/sweet tooths brother. and calypso has noyhing to do with it.