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Jul 06, 09 03:12PMNaruto Boy

I don't have BB, and I probably won't get it just yet, maybe in the future though. I might not ever get it though tbh, maybe I'll get it to try it out. But I barely play B+ and B+ is a lot more different than regular brawl and BB doesn't seem that way like Menkoy is saying. So that means BB would be eh to me if I don't even play B+. =/

Needs to be adjusted:

Shows why messing with the grabs is bad. -_-

Jul 06, 09 02:58PMMenkoy

quote Verjl
only way i would play B+ or BBrawl is if either one or both had a bigger community than normal Brawl.

That's basically it. Though, BBrawl DOESN'T feel like a different game. It's the same game just some of the characters are slightly different. Falco Bthrows instead of Dthrow, Bowser spams Dair, etc. B+ does feel like a completely different game (and it's still failing >>). Tbh saving up your money for a different console and playing a GOOD 2d fighter will make you regret every time you turned on Brawl.

Jul 06, 09 02:03PMVerjl

so ummmmm, while despite Fox would be such a good character with nearly all of his match ups being close to even or dead even making it very tempting for a fox player to play BBrawl, BBrawl is meh.

Brawl has been out for a year now and while alot of us dislike several things about it, playing B+ or BB would feel like playing a different game, at that point i;d say its just time to move on to another game rather than fixing a old one.

let the game developers fix it by comming out with a newer version, and if they don't, move on to another game instead of trying to make a terrible game a bad game.

only way i would play B+ or BBrawl is if either one or both had a bigger community than normal Brawl.

btw pit is now broken with that extra % added to fair and nair which are his most used moves(over hype)

Jul 04, 09 12:15PMZumma

tbh, Ike deserves that kinda recovery.

I mean, he IS Ike, y'know.

Jul 04, 09 12:09PMKilik 64

quote Sakuraba Neku
and on Ike's side B: He can go fly under Smashville(and I assume other stages) then use Aether to recover. How the *bleep* is that not broken? I under stand characters with multiple jumps and glides doing it, but Ike is not *bleep*ing superman.

Because you cannot make Ike broken by fixing one of his many problems. Now if they start cutting down the lag on Ike's super powered attacks, we can start talking about him being broken.

Jul 03, 09 03:43PMPower of Slash

It's not like Ike can SH, Side B off the stage, Fair his opponent, and side B back onto the stage.

Ike still has lag after doing the SideB, enough so where it can't be abused. I just think it's cool beans that just because he's knocked horizontally by the stage, it no longer means he can't recover while Luigi does the exact same thing, but can.

Jul 03, 09 03:30PMBrawL

quote WiseLugia
quote BrawL
If Ike can, so should CF and Ganon.
Another double jump after a down b like Melee would be fine.

Ganon has that in B+ so it's possible, don't know why falcon doesn't have it tho.

Jul 03, 09 03:21PMWiseLugia

quote BrawL
If Ike can, so should CF and Ganon.

Another double jump after a down b like Melee would be fine.

Jul 03, 09 03:19PMJyarra

quote Sakuraba Neku
I under stand characters with multiple jumps and glides doing it, but Ike is not *bleep*ing superman.

Your logic is flawed. Just because it doesn't seem probable doesn't mean that it can't happen. I mean, Snake's tilts hit in the most ridiculous hitboxes ever. Wario's motorcycle jump is ridiculously large (I think he can do the same thing as Ike). In a fighting game, I care less for realism than I do for balance, and I've heard from around two Ike mains that it addresses Ike's main problem in mobility and recovery at the same time.

quote BrawL
If Ike can, so should CF and Ganon.

I don't remember if they helped Captain Falcon or not, but one of Ganondorf's main changes is that the final hit of his recovery (the uppercut) now kills at like 60% versus midweights. You will likely die if you attempt to edgeguard Ganondorf and don't do it perfectly.

Jul 03, 09 03:17PMBrawL

If Ike can, so should CF and Ganon.

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