Hey, I've been having a problem. I'm trying to be closed fist, but the last THREE closed fist decisions I've made (two of them big) haven't moved my closed fist marker down at all. Since I've reached the level of closed fist I am currently at, I have:
- Destroyed the Dam controls - Screwed Mother Kwan out of her Teahouse - Told the ghost child that I wouldn't help her
Yet my marker won't go down at ALL. Yet if I make even a petty open palm decision, it jumps up almost a centimeter! Can anyone help me?
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Sep 08, 08 04:29PMBotanical Puppet
Both ways have this issue. It's intentional. If you are far along on the way of the open palm, one slip can send you hurtling down to being a normal human. If you are far along the way of the closed fist, heh... say thank you and you lose the hard earned points of untold slaughter.
Unless you complete almost all quests with almost all the same path, you won't achieve mastery until you decide what to do in the last stretch of the game (chapter 7). That bump is ginormous.
About getting the Ya Zhen battle. It's pretty simple. On arrival in the Imperial City, or at any time prior to landing at the palace, talk to the girl in three separate sessions. As far as I am aware, any sequence of choices here should unlock the follower Ya Zhen. If it does, you know you'll get that confrontation. If not, you can keep talking to the girl anytime prior to the palace arrival.
Dec 09, 07 06:52PMLingYinYang
I tried to be closed fist one time.......some key points to being bad are:
Two rivers:
Tell Wen (The guy in the pagoda at the school) that he wastes Master Li's time.
Give Kia Min the cheap healing plant that hurts her.
Talk bad to the old dude sweeping the beach
Tien's landing:
Kill the dude who used to run the orphanage and give the head to the orphan ghost girl.
Feb 28, 07 10:38PMEvil 1
I had already a close fist fiiower when I was in the Imprerial city. My meter had already gone all the way down to the bottom!!1 And my character's body have a bloody red smoke & the shadow looks very evil!!! Actually it's very easy! Whatever u do, do evil things. And when comes to talking to anyone, never talk to them in a nice way, but in a rude & selfish ways!!!! Never help the weak, unless they are willing to pay u silver!!!
Aug 11, 06 04:28PMXok
killing the Forest Shadow and not killing the Mother will give you some CL points and some exp.
Feb 04, 06 04:24PMSlipknot15
- Destroyed the Dam controls - Screwed Mother Kwan out of her Teahouse - Told the ghost child that I wouldn't help her
1st: No idea 2nd: I thought you were just suppose to take the money to hush this stuff all up from the owner. 3rd: You have to help the ghost girl, but instead of going to the guy and making him bury the children's bones, you have to kill him and take his head to the girl child.
Jan 11, 06 04:42AMDCRage
If you're talking about the "Wild Flower's Demons" battle, that only occurs if Wild Flower/Chai Ka is your Follower and you talk to them every chance you get (like when they say something when you're exploring the current area).
Jan 10, 06 09:26PMsloprano
also, new parts of the game are unlocked when you are bad. you get to fight the demon helper with big horns as the toad demon (if you have him) when you get to the palace. I think.
Jan 10, 06 01:31AMRaven_Darkfellow
*lol* SEe? This is exactly what I was talking about. And I appreciate your reply, friend, which did help me a little.
I still suffer pretty much the same problem now, except there are frequent places I keep finding that the ONLY way to advance the storyline are things that give me more open points. I assume that's based on past choices I had made, as I was trying to take the "true" closed path, by being closed fist without being evil-- a feat made impossible by the mechanics of the game (even though the game itself professes that not to be true).
Anyway, It seems to be letting me deeper into the closed fist now, so I guess my problem is over, but I find myself constantly sinking to further depths of depravity to accomplish this.
"Farmer Fong is still alive? His nephew wants him dead? Okay, kill them both."
"You there, with the prisoners! Those are terrible quality slaves, kill them and get a better batch!"
Etc.
Jan 09, 06 06:59PMsloprano
how? I did every bad thing there, and it still took me until the water dragon killing part to become fully closed fist follower.
Jan 09, 06 01:28PMZero and X
Not true I was able to be good and bad enough to get to the max before getting to that decision.
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