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Author:   Deis
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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MIAMI — The family vacation cruise that Janice Langbehn, her partner Lisa Marie Pond and three of their four children set out to take in February 2007 was designed to be a celebration of the lesbian couple's 18 years together.

But when Pond suffered a massive stroke onboard before the ship left port and was rushed to Jackson Memorial Hospital, administrators refused to let Langbehn into the Pond's hospital room. A social worker told them they were in an "anti-gay city and state."

Langbehn filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday charging the hospital with negligence and "anti-gay animus" in refusing to recognize her and the children as Pond's family, even after a power of attorney was faxed to the hospital within an hour of their arrival.

The case raises questions about the way hospitals deal with same-sex or unmarried partners of patients, which has led to controversy in the past. Hospital industry officials say they are constrained by patient privacy laws that can restrict giving visiting access and medical information to non-relatives, a stance that some patient advocates have branded as discriminatory.

Pond, 39, was pronounced dead of a brain aneurysm about 18 hours after being admitted to Jackson's Ryder Trauma Center. Langbehn said she was allowed in to see her partner only for about five minutes, as a priest gave Pond the last rites.

"I never thought almost 20 years of love and family could be disregarded in an instant," said Langbehn, a social worker who lives with her children in Lacey, Wash.

The suit, filed U.S. District Court in Miami, charges hospital social worker Garnett Frederick and physicians Alois Zauner and Carlos Alberto Cruz with negligence and "intentional infliction of emotional distress." The suit seeks damages in excess of $75,000.

"No matter what your definition of family is, this family went through terrible indignities," said Donald Hayden, a Miami lawyer who joined the national advocacy group Lambda Legal in bringing the suit. "The partners here did everything they were supposed to do under law and were still denied visitation rights that should have been allowed."

Jackson officials declined to comment, except to say that the hospital follows state and federal laws on patient privacy that can forbid releasing health information to those outside the patient's immediate family.

The hospital also may limit visitors if a patient is being treated for a trauma, emergency or serious infection, said Valda Clark Christian, an assistant county attorney representing Jackson.

At a Miami press conference, Langbehn, 39, broke down when she recalled the eight hours she and her three adopted children - now ages 11, 12 and 14 - sat in a hospital waiting room with little knowledge of Pond's condition. "As I sat there wracking my brain, I would go outside and scream into the Miami night," she said. "I felt like a failure for not being there holding her hand."

Pond, Langbehn and the children arrived in Miami for a Caribbean cruise with R Family Vacations, a company run by Rosie O'Donnell and her partner Kelli that caters to gays and lesbians.

Pond was stricken shortly after boarding the ship Norwegian Jewel as she watched her children play basketball, Langbehn said. She and the children were told virtually nothing about Pond and not allowed to see her - even though Pond's sister arrived from Jacksonville and was sent straight to Pond's room.

When Pond was declared brain dead about 10 a.m. the next day, her heart, both kidneys and her liver were harvested for donation, according to her wishes, Langbehn said.

Linda Quick, president of the South Florida Hospital and Healthcare Association, said she did not think Jackson broke any laws or rules and chided the family for seeking money from a public hospital.

"Whether [Jackson] could have been more culturally sensitive, maybe. Do the [family members] deserve an apology? Probably," Quick said. "But that's tax money they are trying to get."

Federal health privacy laws say hospitals should not disclose details about a patient except to the nearest family member or someone with power of attorney. Hospitals legally do not have to allow visitors.

Florida law spells out a priority list for who doctors should consult about a patient's health care: first, a guardian or health surrogate, then a spouse, adult child, parent, adult sibling, adult relative and finally a close friend.

Normally, hospitals honor a power of attorney but there could be legal or logistical reasons that would interfere, said William Bell, attorney for the Florida Hospital Association.

Quick said it may be time to modernize the law.

"Today's lifestyles may require some broader interpretations of what is a family member," Quick said.




Author:   matrix
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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I prefer the cake threads.



Author:   tallteen86
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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Ummmm, while it says there may be exceptions, she DID have power of attorney, and no reason (that we can read here) was given to refuse her being admitted.

Yeah, old rules and laws are behind with the times (they usually are several years behind TBH).

They are basically covering their ass, not admitting her or the children.

Time to update the laws and regulations neh?



Author:   Invalidity
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote matrix
I prefer the cake threads.
And Deis, please stop it with the news reports!



Author:   Deis
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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I'm the only one who thinks it's terribly sad that, after twenty years together, she wasn't allowed to be by her partner's side as she died because they were the same gender?

You little 2008 brats are the reason loungin' sucks sometimes. I know that when people first join the site they tend to be idiots - but could you please take it to one of the smaller game forums, where you can grow into decent members without inflicting your inane babble on me?

Thanks.






Author:   Strawberryclock
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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Honestly, this is bullshit.

She should of had visitation rights, even without the power of attorney.




Author:   matrix
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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I didn't actually read it.



Author:   Strawberryclock
Date:   (PT)
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quote matrix
I didn't actually read it.
Then why did you even post!



Author:   Deis
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote Strawberryclock
Honestly, this is bullshit.

She should of had visitation rights, even without the power of attorney.

I disagree that she's suing for money, too. I think it's more to try to make an impact, if that makes sense. Dragging them through court would be far more effective than someone typing up a letter of apology.





Author:   matrix
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote Strawberryclock
quote matrix
I didn't actually read it.
Then why did you even post!
Why did you?


EDIT: i read it.



Author:   Deis
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote matrix
Why did you?
Because he read the first post and felt the need to make a relevant comment.

I'd like to know exactly what's meant by an "anti-gay city and state". Just, people there aren't comfortable with gay relationships, or those states/cities that don't allow gay marriage?






Author:   Strawberryclock
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote Deis
quote matrix
Why did you?
Because he read the first post and felt the need to make a relevant comment.

I'd like to know exactly what's meant by an "anti-gay city and state". Just, people there aren't comfortable with gay relationships, or those states/cities that don't allow gay marriage?




both, probably.

They don't like gays, and they don't allow gay marriage.

Then again, most states don't allow gay marriage, only 3 or something.



Author:   matrix
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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I read it.

Yeah, kinda unfair.

Couldn't think of a witty title for this one Deis?



Author:   Enigma
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote Deis
You little 2008 brats are the reason loungin' sucks sometimes. I know that when people first join the site they tend to be idiots - but could you please take it to one of the smaller game forums, where you can grow into decent members without inflicting your inane babble on me?


As rude as it sounds, Deis has a point here. Posting interesting news stories to discuss is one of the purposes of this forum. If you can't be bothered to read the first post or formulate an opinion relating to the topic, just stay away and keep your annoying comments to yourself. This is obviously not just directed to 2008 members, but to anyone who thinks it's necessary to disrupt threads by posting completely off topic nonsense.



Author:   Deis
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: Women Sues Hospital After Being Denied Visitation of Partner
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quote matrix
Couldn't think of a witty title for this one Deis?
I didn't try. A funny title might cause people to make jokes about the topic rather than discuss it seriously.

quote Strawberryclock
Then again, most states don't allow gay marriage, only 3 or something.
The really silly thing is that, imo, the baptism (or christening) of children is far more sacrilegious, in a religious sense. It's not fair to make promises on behalf of a baby, who may or may not keep them - especially since most parents who have their children baptised/christened don't bother to do anything else with the religion at all.

From a religious point of view, you're making a promise to God, on behalf of someone who may not keep it, and that's just rude. Gay marriage on the other hand...fail to see how that could destroy the sanctity of marriage. Divorce has done far more for that.





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