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Author:   Tifa_cloud
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???does tifa also love cloud???

help plss... i really want to know!!!



Author:   lollipopz
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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You can see what looks like a wedding ring on Tifa, but I'm not sure if it 'officially' is a wedding ring. However, they are in a relationship, they have an adopted son and run a business together, so I guess you can interpret that how you like.

I'm not sure about love though, its kind of awkward to think about because of the Aerith thing. I've always kind of thought Tifa loves Cloud... But Cloud is hard to read. >>;

Roz will prolleh give you a better answer. XD




Author:   Zerpent
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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Yeah, Roz will probably descend from the Final Fantasy heavens and give you the answer you seek. XD



Author:   Miss Razz
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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I'll try my best. XD

quote lollipopz
You can see what looks like a wedding ring on Tifa, but I'm not sure if it 'officially' is a wedding ring.
Since Tifa doesn't wear it on her left hand, I'd assume it was just a friendship ring, or something like that.




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It's really up to the fans interpretation on they think who Cloud loves. There are hints in both the game and the movie on whether Cloud loves Aerith, Tifa, or neither. It's just a matter of opinion on which hints you choose to accept, and which hints you choose to ignore.

Squeenix haven't really 'confirmed' whether Cloud loves either (or neither) of the women, because there are so many fans on both Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith's side.
Here is a thread debating the Tifa/Cloud/Aerith love-triangle.

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But here are some quotes from the Official Reunion Files that might shed some light to the debate ...

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"Tifa fought alongside Cloud in battle two years ago. She has a long history of memories with him that are connected to their future, but Cloud eventually distances himself from Tifa. She continues to work as a manager at Seventh Heaven while taking care of Denzel and Marlene, but can't help feeling uneasy about Cloud's whereabouts."
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"Tifa's been with Cloud for a large part of her life at this point, but she still doesn't understand some of the complexities of his heart, and this makes her uneasy. Nonetheless, she keeps these feelings to herself for the sake of the children." —Nojima Kazushige
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"There are many dimensions to Tifa's character. She's like a mother, a sweetheart and a close ally in battle." —Nomura Tetsuya
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"Although there's a lot to Tifa's character, she's actually very much like any other woman who's been left behind by a man. The director, Nomura, said he wanted me to make sure that she wasn't a clingy woman, but to portray her as though she's been hurt emotionally in a way that others around her cannot easily detect. But Tifa has expressed her feelings plainly to Cloud a number of times." —Nojima Kazushige
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"Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together. Everybody would be living back home where they belonged. Two years is too short to forget the past completely, but it's still a pretty long time… and two years older was a good age for Marlene to start talking a little." —Nojima Kazushige

I pretty much agree with Lolli that they are in some sort of relationship.
I wouldn't neccessarily call it a sexual/lover type relationship though.



Author:   spitfire23
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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i think that in his heart he does but so much has gone on with him that he is just losing it and does not know how to express himself



Author:   Cookie_Cutter
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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I think CLoud Likes Tifa.It implies it at th end of A.C and Last time I cheaked it saied Cloud admired her on Wikipeda.
They would make a cuit couple!



Author:   Serena_Ann
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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so do i cookie_cutter. on youtube the is a song that has Cloud and Tifa. i think they do like each other



Author:   kaijudo
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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It would make good sense if they did, because then Cloud can be with the girl he likes while Aerith was killed off to be with the guy she likes (anyone heard of Zack from Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII? Even if you haven't, it was that guy with black spikey hair that you see at the end and in Cloud's memories).



Author:   fantasy_fan^^
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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cloud likes tifa but he's just too shy to reveal it to her.She is the same also. Cloud and tifa's relationship would have gone smoothly and undisturbed only if aerith didnt get in the way. and many people out there are expected cloudxaerith and i think thats not cool. cloud and tifa should be better. i mean, i think many people are suspicious of what happen after advent children. Like, "did cloud and tifa get together?" but to my opinion cloud still have feelings for aerith but he also likes tifa. Because like it says, you can never forget your first love unless something happens. and i pretty much sure that cloud and tifa are just great friends and that they admire each oher when ever they go. and aerith shouldnt get invovle with cloud because she has Zack. This makes it unfair for zack because zack truly likes her and now he dies and she is replacing him for cloud cus cloud reminds her of zack. but to my perspective i think that there will be no one out there who is the same as the person you love and im talking about aerith here cus shes unfair to zack. so cloudXtifa forever. and if anyone had problems for wth i am saying then you guys can go staright to hell where aerith at!



Author:   kuroudo_fan
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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i honestly think that cloud's feelings for Tifa is unsure because he's a very complicated person to tell when it comes to love. But there is time when he have feelings for her throughout ffvii. Tifa likes cloud and cloud likes tifa. it's just that they are just too shy to tell each other's feelings.^^



Author:   Epoch
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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quote kuroudo_fan
i honestly think that cloud's feelings for Tifa is unsure because he's a very complicated person to tell when it comes to love. But there is time when he have feelings for her throughout ffvii. Tifa likes cloud and cloud likes tifa. it's just that they are just too shy to tell each other's feelings.^^
I had always asumed that the nite they spent under the highwind, right befor they went to the northern crator for the final battle -- that they got their freak on. after all she was all tired in the morning right?



Author:   Aevrel
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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I haven't really played the game, but reading what everyone has to say about all this, doing some research, and watching the movie, I'd have to say that Tifa and Cloud were meant to be from the beginning. Even if Tifa didn't really notice Cloud in their childhood, it could be that they were just friends and that Cloud simply wanted her to notice him to be more than that. So as many guys do, they find a way to impress the girl of their affections. Cloud trained to be a SOLDIER for Tifa, and I suppose it worked, since she realize her feelings later on for Cloud. However, there were other things that did get in the way, circumstances that Cloud and Tifa had to deal with. Aerith had a role in changing things for Cloud, but it isn't without the circumstance that Cloud wasn't himself exactly, he had Zack added to his persona. Aerith reacted to it, the reminder will inevitably tug at her emotions and feelings for her boyfriend from the past even if it has been years since she last saw him. Cloud being in the state he was in did attach himself because Aerith allowed it and he needed someone stable enough since he was a mess. I don't think that it was quite a romantic love mainly because when someone is a complete mess and is lost, they're going to cling to someone that will give kindness and has a sense of calm stability. Aerith being who she is, as an Ancient, someone who will exude that type of earthy and healing energy, someone like Cloud is going to want and feel the need to be around someone like that. Having to lose a friend and the person he actually _Relied_ upon with who he is, someone who basically help him build his foundation (like a parent or guardian) is killed right in front of him. Its going to be a shock, and face it being Cloud he's got issues all his life, like someone mentioned from his childhood he was blamed for Tifa being in a coma, the girl he was infatuated with. That's gotta be tough for a kid, especially if he was innocent. Cloud blamed himself for Aerith because he believed that he hadn't been strong and quick enough to save her despite Cloud being more innocent than he recognizes (stemmed from that event in his childhood involving Tifa). So his attachment to Aerith and then losing the person relied upon emotionally and mentally is going to shake him, plus seeing Aerith's killer and what he did, its going make him want to avenge Aerith since she cared for him, she was a close friend and maternal/guardian type of figure in his life taken from him. His thoughts are going to be more towards...'I let her die, and because of that it would be the same as killing her. Its a terrible sin, someone as good she was, shouldn't have died that way...she cared for me and this is how I repay my gratitude. I could never do anything right, all I do is end up hurting the people I care about.' Cloud loathes himself, why else would he have just given up and die alone with his Geostigma. He probably thinks its what he deserves. Someone as depressed as he was.
I don't deny that Aerith and Cloud have that affectionate bond, but it would not have grown beyond that into a romantic relationship even if she did live imo. She's too much of a caretaker, a guide type of person for Cloud. And comparing them to other characters from other games and what not is irrelevant. Anyways, I don't think Cloud could rely on Aerith as a comfort blankie forever, so I suppose the writer wanted to make Aerith someone who would become someone who helped developed his character and force his independence.
Oh, that reminds me, referring back to Tifa and their childhood, I think after what happened, he didn't only train to impress Tifa, but he did it so that he would become stronger enough to protect her if she was in a pinch.
Tifa has been in the background, not because Cloud didn't want to be with her, its that circumstances forced quite a few things to happen. I think the _real_ Cloud that has become his own person really suits with Tifa and who she is. And to say...Tifa did reach Cloud, she was honest about her feelings and the talk they had in AC.
quote FF VII: Advent Children
"Don't run, let's fight it together. We can help each other I know we can. But I guess that only works with real families."
"I'm not fit to help anyone...not my family, not my friends...nobody."
"Dilly Dally Shilly Shally. (repeat)"
Reno: "I think she wants you to move on man."
He talks to Vincent considering her words, and
"Stop running! I know...even if you find the kids you might not be able to help them. Maybe something will happen that can never unhappen, and that scares you, doesn't it? But you need to think about now, really take it in! Look at you! You think you got it so damn hard! Well you hate being alone, so let people in. Sure you might not answer the phone, but I don't see you throwing it away either...Which is it? A memory or us?"
She set down that choice and made that wheel turn setting something in motion within Cloud and eventually he began to understand, especially when he asked Vincent about sins. I'm not sure how the heck he didn't realize that he had to try to forgive his own sins...I swear...Cloud is a bit ditzy at times.

This is just my two cents about the "love triangle", I don't think there really is one, but its what people seem to like.



Author:   Aevrel
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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(sigh) Can I have my previous post deleted please?



Author:   AirRick87
Date:   (PT)
Subject:   re: does cloud love tifa?what is the relationship of tifa and cloud???
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them getting married would kill the mystery of the feelings between them, but taking too long to develop the relationship is also very agonizing...just think Lana Lang and Clark Kent, lol

thankfully, Tifa and Cloud live in an fantasy world where they cannot age, and therefore are not bothered by such a thing.


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