Author: Final Blade
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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quote ShadowGuardShow me proof? Cause I for one have been watching the FF13 news for awhile now, since the FF13 360 in july, and I have NEVER heard this nor has anyone else I've talked to. If you're comparing the scope of the game to MGS4, then yes maybe some things might end up being compressed, but this had nothing to do with 360 version, which we're discussing about.quote Final BladeYou had a pretty good argument until that sentence. Not only is it obvious that that HAVE TO COMPRESS (even if they use only 40gb), but SE has stated themselves that they will have to.not compress it.
SE stated they would use most if not all (or as much as they can) of the disc space provided by blu-ray in order to take full-advantage of the PS3, mind you this was said before the 360 version was confirmed at E3.quote Final BladeAfter I played that game, i think i proved my point that it will be shitty in comparison.LO has 4 discs mind you and people thought it was awesome and that was an exclusive
I am thinking this way because SE has shunned me a couple times already, what is keeping them from doing it again, nothing...
And do you understand the point of using multiple discs? It's to not COMPRESS data. That's the whole point of using them. You're just reading into too many things. Koloth, which is far more knowledgable on things like this even stated IT WILL NOT BE DIFFERENT/ALTERED.
The only thing you can say about LO was since 360 is easier to work with, Mistwalker didn't take time to polish the game, but since the 360 version is being made in the minds of the finish high quality product, PS3, it should not be bad. I've made many key points that debunks yours entirely yet you keep going on with the same stuff which a fanboy would say. I'm not calling you one, but you just have not presented a solid argument or evidence to support your claims. I'm sorry but you're wrong about FF13 development here.
Edit: here's some of the points Koloth stated which I found on the thread.
quote KolothMnm calm down. The 360 version of FF13 will likely be like Lost Odyssey. By that I mean it will be a multi disk game. There will be nothing given up. 360 gamers will just have to deal with disk swapping.
GTA4 was a different matter since disk swapping would be more difficult to manage.
quote Kolothquote Spartan1088How many times do I have to say that having the game go multiplatform won't affect the quality. It can still be a 50GB game. 360 owners will just have to switch between 4-5 disks.quote z fighterThats exactly why this news SUCKS!This doesn't effect me very much...PS3 owners will still be able to buy FFXIII (albiet a probably down trodden version), and anyway, I got the PS3 more for MGS4 and GoW3.
And enough insults. Pointing out the 360 forum is perfectly fine since many 360 owners frequent this forum too.
quote KolothThe team isn't taking time away though. They are completing the game exclusively for the PS3 in Japan. Then once the game is finished and released over there they are going to start the work on the 360 version while they do the translations for the US and EU versions. Absolutely nothing will be compromised by this. Don't over react.
Though yes it might be delayed.
quote Cruxis ManaI could list a few more but I think you can find the rest within the thread if you have a short memory. And also may I add that the 360 version WILL NOT be started until the PS3 Japanese version of FF13 is released. This was stated by SE themselves. So I still don't understand why you insist on the quality being jeopardized by it being multiplatform.I've found a nice quote to stop some of the arguments we've had on the last few pages:quoteSource at IGNThe first question on the floor was one to clarify how, if at all, the Xbox 360 release would affect the PS3 version. The short answer is that it won't. Final Fantasy XIII is being developed first for the PS3 in Japan, a region that won't see an Xbox 360 release. The Xbox 360 iteration is a port of the PS3 build, but Square was quick to point out that you can't say this will cause a delay of the PS3 release in America. Separate teams are working on the two versions and both are moving along on schedule. There shouldn't be a delay in any releases.
This message was edited by Final Blade on Dec 27 2008.
Author: ShadowGuard
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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you know, Koloth is not the gaming god so your quotes of him do not really help you all, he is a smart individual, but he is human and simply a customer like the rest of us.
I thought my math was simple... 32-36gb < 40-50gb... They will not go over 4 discs, and Microsoft charges for each disc as well.
However I never said there will be a altercations of the game between the two versions did I, Ill repeat myself...
1. The ending will be cut short or the game will not be as long as the developers originally intended it to be. (This is for all versions)
2. Or the graphics, lagtime, etc... will be noticably different in the 360 version (which is not an altercation, simply a side-effect of the compression).
One of these has to happen, the point that you can and will use is that we will never be able to confirm #1. Why should I take SE for their literal word, havent they contradicted themselves plenty of times. Nomura even stated that Riku wouldnt be in KH2, we know how that turned out...
Author: Sir_Spazzalot
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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ok well. Has anyone heard anything about an actual release date for the PS3 version? i played a few minutes on my friend's xbox and im dying to get this game.
Author: Darknet
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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quote ShadowGuardYeah and he is biased towards the PS3.you know, Koloth is not the gaming god so your quotes of him do not really help you all, he is a smart individual, but he is human and simply a customer like the rest of us.
Author: ShadowGuard
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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that does not really bother me though
I have great respect for Koloth (over the internet), but saying he is all and knows all just does not cut it
Author: jdj1976
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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well xbox 360 has the hard drive granted 120 gig and i hate i cant use a biger one like i did whit my ps3 but if done right they can compress the game and then we can have option to uncompres to hd but microsoft needs to release updates to 360 that will alow use to use biger hard drives i payed alot for my 120hd and only 70 bucks on newegg for a 350gig that neted me 299 ggi after format
Author: Final Blade
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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Not to beat a dead horse, but I didn't use Koloth as a be all end all, just to point out the facts that has been stated before and how the quality won't differ. In fact, after seeing the 360 version in action, all I have to say is WOW. Perfectly identical to each other I say. Red was quick to say it doesn't look the same, but idk how he'd say that. Both doesn't look like it's losing anything at all. Even SE mentioned nothing will be altered. The only thing both Nomura and Kitase disliked it the increase time of developing the game. FF13 could have been out already if it wasn't for the 360, but that's besides the point.
Koloth is very knowledgeable given his age. He knows alot about electronics and things most young people do not know. Just like Chiro, so in that respect, I value their posts alot more.
quote DarknetOH the irony.quote ShadowGuardYeah and he is biased towards the PS3.you know, Koloth is not the gaming god so your quotes of him do not really help you all, he is a smart individual, but he is human and simply a customer like the rest of us.
Author: ShadowGuard
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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quote Final BladeA little old FB, what is the point in posting now?Not to beat a dead horse, but I didn't use Koloth as a be all end all, just to point out the facts that has been stated before and how the quality won't differ. In fact, after seeing the 360 version in action, all I have to say is WOW. Perfectly identical to each other I say. Red was quick to say it doesn't look the same, but idk how he'd say that. Both doesn't look like it's losing anything at all. Even SE mentioned nothing will be altered. The only thing both Nomura and Kitase disliked it the increase time of developing the game. FF13 could have been out already if it wasn't for the 360, but that's besides the point.
lol, you cannot take a 3 min clip of a trailer to compare the two one way or the other. I did not see any differences, you are correct, but even if there is going to be differences, you think SE would show that at E3? no...
The point is, could the game have been longer or looked better if it was PS3 exclusive, that is the point here.
quote Final BladeOH the irony.
Author: Miss Razz
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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It's not looking good...
PS3 Version Of The Last Remnant Cancelled?
Author: Final Blade
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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if it is, meh. Game was crap from what I've heard.
Author: Krunal
Date: (PT)
Subject: re: Delayed / Cancelled? D:
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Yay... we're not going to get a buggy game... though I would have had the RPG Fan within me forcing me to get it... knowing that it's not releasing means I can spend my money and time elsewhere...
Thus far any SE game on the XBOX360 hasn't been great... I sure hope they break that tradition with FFXIII...