Author: dbzmaster
Date: May 16, 08 4:57pm (PT)
Subject: Smash v brawl v melee
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And? There's a clear difference between that player and any normal player. I doubt anyone would be able to do what he does.
I don't think its easy to just fly an arwing, maneuver a landmaster, and ride in a submarine... Why would he learn fighting techniques.
Sonic does Guerrilla tactics how? Can he hide? He has no weapons at all. If anything, ROB can do guerrilla tactics better then him. Moving fast around the stage and attacking when they get near is not guerrilla tactics. ANYONE can do that. And then, you get 2 people that are waiting on the opposite side of the stages, taunting, which is why New Pork City is *bleep*ed to play on (for competitive).
Author: Zero Melfice
Date: May 16, 08 5:19pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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Obviously, you were saying "Isai is not deemed unbeatable because of one video. LOLZ!" Forgive if I misread your original intention.
Why WOULDN'T Fox learn fighting techniques? You have yet to give me reason why in the first place. I stated why he would, and possible motivation.
Sonic himself does not do Guerrilla tactics. The player does. You don't have to setup an ambush, simply for doing attacks that are hit and run. Not just ANYONE can do that. There is a vast speed difference that is sort've required. I'm sure you know that right?
Author: dbzmaster
Date: May 16, 08 10:57pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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No, I said one video doesn't make him unbeatable. You can make hundreds of video's of you winning, but if you don't show the ones where you lost, you're fooling yourself.
Also, I COULD just state that Isai has other video's of him playing other characters, and STILL winning, so saying Pikachu is "unbeatable" in the hands of him is stupid. Just about every character is unbeatable with him. He just owns them more with Pikachu.
Well, in my last post, you'd see that I sort of hinted at you that he'd be spending time learning how to actually combat Andross's forces, but I guess that just flew right by you.
You can't ambush when they clearly see you, sorry to say. There is no way to ambush with Sonic. This is stupid, anyway, the battle would take forever if they were truly fighting.
Author: Zero Melfice
Date: May 17, 08 4:44am (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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Do some damn research then dude. Isai isn't "unbeatable" with every character, only his pikachu.
It's been stated by many of the rest of the world's best fighters, they can't take his Pikachu on at all. I personally am able to take on his Yoshi and knock it around senseless. And I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near his level. Some people can destroy his DK, other can't. You obviously know NOTHING of the smash world if you've never heard of Isai. Do you think he plays SSBM competitively? Why of course he does, and is a top contender in it as well. He mains Falcon in SSBM. Search him up on YouTube, he isn't the best in the world but he can still astonish you.So let's see... spending your adult life learning how to maneuver space vehicles doesn't require some physical ability to withstand all kinds of beatings? I was hinting at his younger life, please offer more valid evidence other then just saying something that is completely obvious. I'm saying that Fox more then likely, without having a father figure, grew up having to learn how to fight to defend himself. Falco is an ex thug, obviously he knows how to fight.
I never said "make an ambush"...
Please re-read my post until you fully understand it.
quote MeYou don't have to setup an ambush, simply for doing attacks that are hit and run. Not just ANYONE can do that. There is a vast speed difference that is sort've required. I'm sure you know that right?
Author: Aether
Date: May 17, 08 5:08am (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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To be honest, I think Melee is the best.
Sure, all 3 are still being played today, but Melee was more challenging and more fun.
♥ AE ♥
Author: dbzmaster
Date: May 17, 08 2:31pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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lol, you have no idea what guerrilla tactics are then. Are you kidding me when you say guerrilla tactics don't use ambushes? WTF? Guerrilla tactics are ALL about ambushes. Ambushes ARE hit and run.
I know, show me more videos or else it isn't true. And your right, I don't know much about the SSB world, since I don't care. I play this game for fun, with my friends, not random people in a tournament I could care less about.
Fine, I'll just go out and say that his father was taken prisoner by Andross in Star Fox and that he then assembled forces to combat him. So really, should've dropped that point when you could've. He never had to learn fighting techniques ever.
Author: Tears of Insanity
Date: May 17, 08 2:33pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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Melee. It was just so different, and seemed to change a lot, while brawl didn't.
Author: Zero Melfice
Date: May 17, 08 4:12pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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quote dbzmasterlol, you have no idea what guerrilla tactics are then. Are you kidding me when you say guerrilla tactics don't use ambushes? WTF? Guerrilla tactics are ALL about ambushes. Ambushes ARE hit and run.
Guerrilla Tactics. As you can clearly see, ambushes are not the ONLY thing they use. Ambushes are TYPES of hit and run strategies. You can go up the diagram, but you can't go down. Not ALL guerrilla tactics are ambushes, and not ALL ambushes are hit and run. I said re-read my post until you fully understood it. What can you not understand? Certain tactics may generally REVOLVE around one thing, but that is not what they ALL are.
I know, show me more videos or else it isn't true. And your right, I don't know much about the SSB world, since I don't care. I play this game for fun, with my friends, not random people in a tournament I could care less about.
Look them up for yourself. I linked you I think 10 videos of him in SSB, do some research on your own or I'll stop debating this issue next post. And if you don't care, why must you continuously fight back?
Fine, I'll just go out and say that his father was taken prisoner by Andross in Star Fox and that he then assembled forces to combat him. So really, should've dropped that point when you could've. He never had to learn fighting techniques ever.
His father was killed, actually. He was betrayed by Pigma Dengar, and Peppy Hare barely escaped. Fox was only a child at the time. He didn't HAVE to learn special fighting techniques, but it is safe to assume he knows how to fight somewhat decent. Nice to see you let the Falco argument go though.
Eh, one SSBM Isai video. It's Isai fighting Captain Jack, one of the world's best Sheik players . Isai is Falcon.
This message was edited by Zero MelFice on May 18 2008.
Author: SuperLuigiN64
Date: May 18, 08 9:16am (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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COME ON my vote is Brawl>Original>Melee, and you can't beat the game til' you beat it Very Hard 1 life
Author: ConkerASkyJockey
Date: Jun 09, 08 4:51pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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quote SuperLuigiN64That's very easy, to be honest.COME ON my vote is Brawl>Original>Melee, and you can't beat the game til' you beat it Very Hard 1 life
Author: MCsephiroth1313
Date: Jun 25, 08 8:01am (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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the first smashy is my favorite. its so cool how 'A' does so much damage and it even sounds like it does. but when i do it in melee its like im pinching them. and WTF IS UP WITH FOX'S GUN IN MELEE?
Author: Starborn
Date: Aug 14, 08 12:17pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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- My favourite was definately Brawl. The other two seem really old now, and Brawl was most successful I believe.
Author: PichuLover1982
Date: Aug 24, 08 7:10pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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Brawl > Melee > Original
I think that the newer a game is, the better because Brawl has the most stages and most characters which is great.
Author: johnathan morris
Date: Aug 24, 08 8:46pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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melee stages why why why why why why whyw hyw boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo bioo
Author: Tears of Insanity
Date: Aug 24, 08 9:29pm (PT)
Subject: re: Smash v brawl v melee
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Melee > Original > Brawl.
Brawl was awful. It sucked, it didn't deliver, it failed. Admit it.