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Modern Warfare 2 PC lacks many common PC FPS features
Kevin Spiess - Friday, November 6th, 2009 | 12:18PM (PT) 3 Like Favourites (0)


9 vs. 9 limit on matches, no kicking hackers, no lean, no console, no match recording and more

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Everyone expects Modern Warfare 2 (MW2) to bust sales records wide open. But for all the anticipation, Activision and developer Infinity Ward may as well have abandoned any development work into PC-specific features for the multiplatform game. Compared to all earlier entries in the revered Call Of Duty series, Modern Warfare 2 is the first game that is basically all port, with as little catering to the PC gamer as feasibly possible.

You all know that there will be no dedicated servers -- the backlash over that came earlier on this month. Further bad news for PC gamers was unceremoniously delivered by way of a community chat hosted by Best Buy with Infinity Ward's Mackey McCandlish and Ryan Lastimosa yesterday.  The lack of dedicated servers aren't the only bad news -- it's just the beginning.

Modern Warfare 2 will have extremely poor multiplayer support compared to what PC gamers are accustomed to in almost all other modern FPS games. Besides the lack of server support, there will be no way for players to kick cheaters out of games. Apparently Infinity Ward hopes that hackers and cheaters will somehow not materialize, a very far-fetched idea to anyone who has ever played a popular PC FPS. Furthermore, because the PC version is basically nothing more than a straight console port, matches will be limited to 9 versus 9 -- 18 players a match is a sad number when you consider many other comparable games support at least 16 on 16 players per map. To further unbalance the game, any player that hosts a match will have an undeniable ping advantage, awarding them with an advantage online.

Beyond these deficiencies, Modern Warfare 2 will also have no support for console commands -- something that is practically an institution in PC FPS games. The strength of the PC as a gaming platform is the ability for gamers to customize and tailor game settings to their heart's content, yet it appears Infinity Ward does not think this is very important.

Additionally, there is no way to record matches, a commonplace feature seen even in lower-budget MP FPS games. The lack of this feature alone further evaporates the chances Modern Warfare 2's multiplayer will be taken seriously by the competitive PC gamer community.

On top of all that, leaning from hiding positions has not been incorporated into the game. Prior Call of Duty titles featured leaning, but alas, it seems it was removed because the game "isn't balanced" for such an ability.

It wouldn't surprise us if there are even more features the PC version lacks. In fact, the word 'lacking' just might sum up Modern Warfare 2 on PC. When asked what features were specific to the PC version, McCandlish stated "mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings." Suffice to say, the title faces a tremendous challenge in keeping PC gamers engaged.

You might expect all this from a smaller studio looking to curb development costs for a smaller title. But for a studio that is releasing what could be one of the bestselling games of the year, the relative dearth of exclusive PC features in favour of what appears to be a console port must be somewhat depressing for potential fans of the game. We suspect the complete absence of features in the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 will translate into low sales on the PC platform. Which, we are guessing, will promptly be blamed on piracy, and will lead to even effort spent on future PC versions of Infinity Ward titles.

Source: ArsTechnica

Section: PC Games

  • 3 thumbs!
    Honor since Jan 2007 | Nov 6, 09
    I don't think anyone would want to pirate this game its that ****
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  • 2 thumbs!
    ParanahJoe since Aug 2005 | Nov 6, 09
    That's ok IW, we don't want your matchmaking anyway!
    Just remember where your roots are.
  • 6 thumbs!
    NeOsX since Nov 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    Man... it's not fair to PC owners really... they pay around the same price for a game that doesn't even have hacker kicking? Infinity Ward I believe you have become more of a dick than frigging Nintendo. I'm not buying this piece of pure arrogant-lazziness...
    Last edited by NeOsX :: Nov 7, 09
  • 5 thumbs!
    jdj1976 since Sep 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    i used to be a hardcore pc gamer but after a wile i went on the console bandwagon so that i no longer had to worry about needing new graphics cards or more memory usual pc stuff

    and it seems to me that iw is doing the same thing they are screwing up the pc version maybe to try and get more people on consoles because making games for 2 consoles is easier than making for x amount of configurations or windows/linux boxes

    IW if you don’t want make any more pc games then just say so don’t screw whit all these pc gamers and then act like you have there best interest in mind

    Each and every decision you have made concerning the pc has basically turned it into the console version

    I wish that we gamers weren’t so divided between ps3/360/pc we could all get together and at the minimum wait 1 day later to buy the game so your super launch date would get screwed

    Sadly it’s not going happen you will have a great launch date and think we can do whatever we want they will still buy it
  • 4 thumbs!
    blazeboy11 since Sep 2005 | Nov 7, 09
    At least PC gamers have Battlefield Bad Company 2 to look forward to.
  • 3 thumbs!
    ShadowJ since Jan 2003 | Nov 7, 09
    More gamers for DICE then, hell even Battlefield Heroes prides itself with dedicated servers!
  • 2 thumbs!
    VeGiTAX2 since Apr 2001 | Nov 7, 09
    quote Spark
    I like how they are moving to xbox/ps3 mainly, better than way IMO
    Exactly, if they're going to start taking an absolute dump on the gameplay and let it all stagnate then it should go to the console users glad you like discarded PC franchises.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Northern49 since May 2005 | Nov 7, 09
    I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to think, "why not blow up Infinity Ward studios?" of course, that is just an idea. I wouldn't want to be blamed if someone else actually decided to do it. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Northern49 since May 2005 | Nov 7, 09
    quote VeGiTAX2
    quote Spark
    I like how they are moving to xbox/ps3 mainly, better than way IMO
    Exactly, if they're going to start taking an absolute dump on the gameplay and let it all stagnate then it should go to the console users glad you like discarded PC franchises.
    qft. Spark is an idiot.
  • 1 thumbs!
    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    quote Northern49
    I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to think, "why not blow up Infinity Ward studios?" of course, that is just an idea. I wouldn't want to be blamed if someone else actually decided to do it. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
    You've been reported to Neoseeker's terrorist alert department.
  • 2 thumbs!
    Crafter since Dec 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    "...will promptly be blamed on piracy, and will lead to even effort spent on future PC versions of Infinity Ward titles."
    Exactly... Many people think this was the original intent. While I hate to think developers would do that, it does make sense...
  • 3 thumbs!
    RedrumRunner since Nov 2009 | Nov 7, 09
    Ok, so let me get this straight, Turn your back on the PC Gaming community WHY?? Because you think you know more about what we want, than we do??

    If we wanted to play like consoles we would buy consoles. Another thing, if everyone thought like Activision and IW what would this do for Invidia, ATI, ASUS, and other companies that depend on PC Gamers for the success with all these products they bring to market?? As far as I know you can't upgrade your console with the latest video card from Invidia or ATI ? No motherboard upgrades, memory upgrades, feature packed sound cards, crazy PC Cases and everything else that pretty much makes it possible for alot of these games to even come to life!

    Another thing that gets me is, "IF IT WASN'T FOR COD or the expansion pack that really took things to a new level, COD UO & COD 2 "THERE WOULDN'T EVEN BE A Modern Warfare 2. Hell! there wouldn't even have been a Modern Warfare or COD 5 for that matter. Its the dedicated servers and the PC Modding community that made it possible for these games to live as long as they did. Some of them are still going strong.

    I could go on and on, just like eveyone else. Will I buy the game? No point. All the things that would get me to buy a PC game have been stripped out! Im also not really happy with the fact that they waited all this time before telling us. Some people spent quite a bit of time, money and effort gearing up for this only to get stabbed in the back by a game developer we trusted. DID THEY NOT SEE ALL THE PEOPLE ADVERTISING ALL OVER THE INTERNET !!!! stuff like PRE-ORDER YOUR MW2 GAME SERVER TODAY! DO they think that all those add spaces on websites everywhere are just FREE?? WTH!!! They knew what they were doing.

    Ok, I'm beating a dead horse, really. Nothing is gonna happen with this.

    I WILL SAY THIS< I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE GUY FROM STEAM OR IWNET THAT SOLD THIS Alice & Wonderland idea to whoever they had to convince that this was in the best interest financially for the companies involve, because HE OR SHE IS GOOD! haha! I just have to laugh!
  • 2 thumbs!
    Chaotic since Jul 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    Seriously, I think Infinity Ward it trying to get themselves killed by a mob of angry PC gamers. Honestly, this may very well be the worst game on PC simply because it's lacking so many features. No command console? SERIOUSLY!? *bleep* you, Infinity Ward.
  • -10 thumbs!
    Spark since Mar 2009 | Nov 7, 09
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  • 4 thumbs!
    Hellfire29 since Jun 2007 | Nov 7, 09
    There is no way pirates will reduce sales on the PC. I know I wouldn't even bother to pirate it. Typing in Modern Warfare 2 is more effort than the games worth.
  • 4 thumbs!
    VeGiTAX2 since Apr 2001 | Nov 7, 09
    quote Spark
    Please don't rage at me when I say xbox360/ps3 is better for FPS, because that is my opinion, and getting into a console war is stupid
    Where did I rage? Oh wait, I didn't. Thanks for clearing that up.

    360 or PS3 is better for FPS? I guess if you suck need aim assist on all your games you could say that. If you have any shred of coordination then the PC would be the best bet as it has the highest level of percision and probably always will.

    Also you forgot the PC isn't a console it's a platform, you can keep the consoles to yourself. thanks.

    Btw: too easy. maybe pick a topic you might have a shred of hope with.
    Last edited by VeGiTAX2 :: Nov 7, 09
  • 1 thumbs!
    danv79 since Nov 2009 | Nov 7, 09
    I wonder what treyarch has to say about this? Cause we already know that activision made a statement that they fully support iw in what they did to the pc game..... I wish all the hard core players out there that play call of duty and world of warcraft would boycott activision... cause i sure have.... I will never again play a game that is developed by IW or a game that has an activision logo on it....
  • -6 thumbs!
    Spark since Mar 2009 | Nov 7, 09
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  • 1 thumbs!
    Ares81883 since Oct 2000 | Nov 7, 09
    No VeGiTAX2 isn't mad; he is actually using his brain to have a debate with you. All you can say is console is better for FPS. Which it is NOT! This is why no developer has ever allowed for the crossing of boundaries in FPS games that are on all platforms, because console gamers would get destroyed if they were allowed to play on the same servers as PC gamers. The precision is NOT there with console systems controls. If you have nothing else to add to the discussion please stop posting.

    As for not wanting to get into a console/PC war, again stop posting, because you are in a topic regarding PC gaming.

    Ok? Thanks.
  • -5 thumbs!
    Spark since Mar 2009 | Nov 7, 09
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  • 0 thumbs!
    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    This is why people hate PC gamers.
  • 1 thumbs!
    Chaotic since Jul 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    quote chautemoc
    This is why people hate PC gamers.
    Cause they [the people hating on PC Gamers] are idiots?
    Last edited by Chaotic :: Nov 7, 09
  • -1 thumbs!
    Spark since Mar 2009 | Nov 7, 09
    quote chautemoc
    This is why people hate PC gamers.
    PC gamers think PC is the only way to game it seems
  • 4 thumbs!
    Chaotic since Jul 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    quote Spark
    quote chautemoc
    This is why people hate PC gamers.
    PC gamers think PC is the only way to game it seems
    You got that backwards. Console gamers think consoles are the only way to game, your earlier comment is a prime example.
  • 0 thumbs!
    Spark since Mar 2009 | Nov 7, 09
    Meh, what can I expect.. talk to people on xboxlive, they think xbox360 is better. Talk to people on comp, they think comp is better.
  • 1 thumbs!
    omnious since Sep 2004 | Nov 7, 09
    PC gaming is the best, but it's so much for effort, money and hassle, FYI i have a ps3, and these comments have gone way off course
  • 6 thumbs!
    DeathMonkey since Sep 2007 | Nov 7, 09
    Well I'm gonna un-preorder the game now =/
  • 0 thumbs!
    THM since Jan 2008 | Nov 7, 09
    I suppose that the boundary of FPS genre is becoming more and more perplexed between consoles and PCs thereby comparing and judging quality of FPS games between these two is not only contentious but also arduous....
    Last edited by THM :: Nov 7, 09
  • 3 thumbs!
    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Nov 7, 09
    Ah yes, PC and console gamers getting into a fight over nothing...

    Then again, what do I care? I use both.
  • 0 thumbs!
    ShadowJ since Jan 2003 | Nov 8, 09
  • 0 thumbs!
    Exotrax since Oct 2009 | Nov 8, 09
    the problem on my opinion is that at the moment consoles own the market and for sure MW2 will sell more on consoles then PCs.....i guess is just a marketing move.....but is so lame from IW to snub PC's users like that.
  • 1 thumbs!
    annihilate since Dec 2005 | Nov 8, 09
    I will not buy Modern Warfare 2 PC , end of story.
  • -7 thumbs!
    TheLivingDead188 since Jun 2009 | Nov 9, 09
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  • 2 thumbs!
    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Nov 9, 09
    quote TheLivingDead188
    idk why everyone is upset about this, pc gaming is practically dead. other than certain games here and there, there's nothing there anymore. the whole reason i switched from pc to console gaming is because of how expensive it was to keep my computer up to date with hardware. why buy a new video card every 4 minutes to keep up with the constant changing of requirements, when you can buy 1 console and know that you'll be able to play every game that comes out for it, for the next 7 to 10 years? pc gaming is dead in the water. i know it, Infinity ward knows it, and deep down all you people whining about this know it.
    ... wut.
  • 2 thumbs!
    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Nov 9, 09
    Wanting it to be dead and it being dead are very different things.
  • -5 thumbs!
    TheLivingDead188 since Jun 2009 | Nov 9, 09
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  • 0 thumbs!
    VeGiTAX2 since Apr 2001 | Nov 9, 09
    Think of PC gaming like F1 / WRC / BTCC / SCCA / MotoGP - the technologies that are born from the PC make console gaming possible. Gyroscopic control systems? Yeah the PC did that over a decade ago, touch interfaces, again a decade ago, OpenGL, Direct X, Programmable Shader units, every technology and tons of programming codes all come down from the "practically dead" platform and give console gamers all the things they fap fap fap about. UE3 which powered a huge variety of console games was born on the platform.

    Sorry but your rant seems like the typical console gamer going on, every 4 minutes? I ran my X1800 for 3 years, my HD 3850 for 2 years now and I'm playing the newest games without a problem.

    Take a moment to not come off like a one sided console fanboy before you step into this.
    Last edited by VeGiTAX2 :: Nov 9, 09
  • 0 thumbs!
    Honor since Jan 2007 | Nov 9, 09
    hmmmmm pc gamers don't have as many sales as the consoles but we still have a lot so if they notice a down turn in sales then they know they ****ed but get our forgivness is going to be hard
  • 2 thumbs!
    tekmosis since Jul 2006 | Nov 9, 09
    quote
    You might expect all this from a smaller studio looking to curb development costs for a smaller title. But for a studio that is releasing what could be one of the bestselling games of the year, the relative dearth of exclusive PC features in favour of what appears to be a console port must be somewhat depressing for potential fans of the game.
    They spent all their funds on night vision goggles hence why the PC version took a kick to the proverbial nuts
    Last edited by tekmosis :: Nov 9, 09
  • 1 thumbs!
    mangysaurus since Nov 2009 | Nov 10, 09
    It really is sad to say, but the PC gamer is a small minority compared to the legion of console gamers. Activision could have created (more like retained) the features that made cod4 successful, but it would have came at a minuscule expense, relative to the revenue Blizzard generates. It seems that they would rather maximize profit (port identically) in hopes that any dent in PC sales would be diminished.
  • 0 thumbs!
    doobydo since Nov 2009 | Nov 11, 09
    Honor "I don't think anyone would want to pirate this game its that ****"
    -------------------------
    Really? I pirated it, and I'm glad I did, it's junk. 60 bucks for a 6 hour SP campaign, and no dedicated servers, they killed this title. I'm actually pissed I wasted the bandwidth to download. Big deal pretty graphics, the game is junk you can't even lean around corners anymore. I guess that's too complicated for console gamers or they ran out of buttons are their little controllers. I wouldn't pay 5 bucks for that game.
  • 0 thumbs!
    RedrumRunner since Nov 2009 | 1 day 15 hours ago
    quote VeGiTAX2
    Think of PC gaming like F1 / WRC / BTCC / SCCA / MotoGP - the technologies that are born from the PC make console gaming possible. Gyroscopic control systems? Yeah the PC did that over a decade ago, touch interfaces, again a decade ago, OpenGL, Direct X, Programmable Shader units, every technology and tons of programming codes all come down from the "practically dead" platform and give console gamers all the things they fap fap fap about. UE3 which powered a huge variety of console games was born on the platform.

    Sorry but your rant seems like the typical console gamer going on, every 4 minutes? I ran my X1800 for 3 years, my HD 3850 for 2 years now and I'm playing the newest games without a problem.

    Take a moment to not come off like a one sided console fanboy before you step into this.

    I agree ! I suppose all of you console players probably think that YOUR games are developed on a console? LOL! Yep, I'll bet if you walk into any game developers design house you'll see them creating your console games on a console too, right? hahaha! Doubt it.
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